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Warm-up
then

1st set 100M + 100M + 100M
2nd set 100M + 200M + 100M + 100M
3rd set 100M + 100M + 200M + 200M
4th set 100M + 200M + 100M + 100M
5th set 100M + 100M + 100M

warm down

walk 100M between sets and the "+" means walk 50M.
This means for set one you run 100M, walk 50M, run 100M, walk 50M, run 100M

Woh, that is a total of 600m for set 3. i guess will help as i want to train for the 200m as well. i haven't run 200m yet.

here is what my current routine looks like and what my new training routine will look like after 2 weeks of the current one. i am recovering from a serious ankle sprain, which is getting better so will have to wait before i start,


current


warm up and stretches
2 leg lateral line hops
1 leg lateral line hops

jump rope, 2 leg, 1 leg, alternate with high knee
ladder drills, one feet per rung, 2 feet per rung, in out 1 leg in rung.
cone drills running in and out of 8 cones 1m apart.

then comes the flying sprints, with vest on; oh yeah i do the above with weighted vest, then with vest off at full intensity
cool down.

next workout


Same stretch and mobility

wear weighted vest
 2 and 1 leg lateral line hops

 jump rope
 ladder drills
 up stairs run (these are wider and bigger surface area stairs, which
running up them would require big step), so
 maybe running up them as fast as possible can help with acceleration and they have a low angle instead of the normal stairs
   _               _____
_|     its ___|
 

tire drag with vest for approx 30m
flying sprints with and without vest at full intensity

they are done on saturday, monday and wedneday.

should i add it on the same day or would that be over training or on another day and which day/s do you recommend.

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Can you explain how to do tempo runs, i came across one place which said you run at a slow pace for about 15-20min.

thanks

lol, that's continuous tempo.  Definitely not something a sprinter should do regularly.  Continuous tempo is generally for middle/long distance running.  Try this:

http://www.elitetrack.com/faqs/answer/216

http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_strength/tempo_work_in_sprint_training

post number 8, which is an extensive tempo example


I know Charlie Francis liked to use extensive tempo almost exclusively, and did little to know intensive tempo work.  However guys like Glen Mills(Asafa Powell's coach) think that alternating speed days and intensive tempo is better.  Generally, extensive tempo is more intense than intensive tempo(duh).


Personally, I prefer extensive tempo, to keep my CNS fresh.  The total volume in meters of tempo, and the distances per repetition will be based on your abilities as a sprinter.

LOL i definitely don't want that. also in another place it said do you want to be as fast as the kenyans, i was thinking no, lol, i knew that it was for long distance.

so i will incorporate the tempo runs and maybe add the float sprint float; which is i accelerate relaxed, sprint relaxed then decelerate a little relaxed.

for the tempo runs at 75-80% im not good at knowing how intense with percentages those are so im guessing reaching almost full intensity.

btw regarding the sprint float sprint from elite track it says

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Sprint-float-sprints or ins-and-outs are runs of longer duration (60-90m) that can also be used to develop maximal velocity. Typically they start with a 20-35m hard acceleration (sprint). The acceleration is followed by a second segment (20-30m; the float) where the athlete focuses on running relaxed and using the momentum developed from the first acceleration. The third segment (20-30m), is basically a flying sprint (see flying sprints above).

so i accelerate full intensity, then continuing sprinting from the acceleration but relaxed, then do flying sprints which is run, then maintain that speed.


is this what you meant for speed change drills, also the third part you do flying sprints,
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Flying sprints are sprints of short duration (10-30m) performed with a short preceding run-in (20-30m)

so its has 4 stages to it.

overall my drills to add

tempo runs 75-80% intensity
float sprint float
sprint float sprint (flying sprint)

thanks
 :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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Boxing / Re: lopezvs ortiz - amazing fight
« on: June 24, 2012, 11:48:54 am »
I forgot about that
definitely going to have a look and report back.
 :)

EDIT:   :o :wowthatwasnutswtf: OMG that was an awesome fight.

I had ortiz winning during the first few rounds, lopez started to make a come back especially the uppercut and the hook they were just nasty when they connected.

I can see ortiz get angry because of lopez always grappling and can't control himself by commiting a foul like in this case a hit to the back of the head.

after that lopez was from boxing to just plain "im going to get you back for that" attitude, fight mode.

Lopez performed really well during the middle and late rounds. he is a sick fighter, nice combos, i also like when ortiz wants him to get angry so he can really hammer as lopez forgets everything and just fights making him vulnerable.

then when they stopped the fight  :o A BROKEN JAW wow caught when his mouth was open.
even though ortiz was winning, lopez had a lot of good hits in and won the fight and the TITLE.

definitely an awesome fight.

 :headbang:

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Its quite interesting the spiral technique. But i would like a detailed explanation on how to do it.

I went to the site and got this info on how to do it.

"spiraling your arms with your hand supinating on the upstroke and pronating on the downstroke"

so when you hands is coming forward and up your hands are supposed to be in a supinating position.

below is a diagram of different hand positions.



That looks strange, the palms facing upwards when coming up instead of neutral position and facing down when going back.
you rotate from the elbow.

please someone explain
thanks

I'll save you a lot of time by advising you not to waste your time with this stuff. 

I will second Avishek's advice that "relaxation" is not as good of a cue as "awareness".  Might have to steal that one :). There is nothing "relaxing" about sprinting.  However, again I will remind you that it's probably not in your best interest to worry to much about spiraling your arms or relaxing at top speed.  If you aim to improve and work hard enough that in a couple of years you will go from your current ability to being essentially a new person who is significantly faster. 

Rather than worrying about relaxation or spiraling your hands you should continue to work on your full effort sprints as well as relaxed tempo work at about 75-80% intensity.  Doing tempo work and realizing that you can go pretty fast without trying will help you learn to "relax" more when you are competing.  If you train successfully you will go from:   

A 140 pound person running 15.x seconds.
A 160 pound person running 11.x seconds.

The drastic improvement you can make as a beginner by just getting stronger and more powerful and accelerating to newfound speeds means that if you spending time working on your technique cues at your current levels won't pay off as much as you apply more much strength to the track and go much faster.  It's akin to going to the moon and having to relearn how to run at different gravity levels.  The only cues your should work to fix now are those which are gross motor inefficiencies (ie. arms coming across body, legs arms not coordinated).  Cues are important but if they were as important as power in track we wouldn't have so many of what seem like counterexamples in the sport today.  I forget the athletes name but the guy who got 3rd or 4th in the NCAA's 400m (I think from Illinois or somewhere in the big ten) ran a 45.1 or something and ran the last 300 meters with his torso and head tilted completely back and his back completely arched.  He looked horrible.  BUT he ran a 45.1.  More efficient running would probably take him to approximately 44.7....   Point being he would get slightly better.  BUT he has a 45.1 because he is still very very strong.  That's where you want to be.  It's a great problem to have.   Get incredibly strong and enjoy being fast, and start worrying about these cues when you run sub 12 seconds.   

Good luck!   



Excellent Advice mate, thanks.

Can you explain how to do tempo runs, i came across one place which said you run at a slow pace for about 15-20min.

thanks

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Its quite interesting the spiral technique. But i would like a detailed explanation on how to do it.

I went to the site and got this info on how to do it.

"spiraling your arms with your hand supinating on the upstroke and pronating on the downstroke"

so when you hands is coming forward and up your hands are supposed to be in a supinating position.

below is a diagram of different hand positions.



That looks strange, the palms facing upwards when coming up instead of neutral position and facing down when going back.
you rotate from the elbow.

please someone explain
thanks

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Those are some great quotes, i will have to check ou tthe links later.

Of course I cannot claim to be an expert as I have not even competed yet despite training 100m for almost a couple years now consistently, but I do claim to understand exactly what it means to relax in top speed. When I reach top speed I know it, it feels distinct from anything else. It's also very difficult to:
1. keep my head down
2. speed up strides

1. My body naturally becomes upright, and keeping my head down is more difficult. 2. The reason I cannot forcibly speed up my strides as much as I can in the fist 30m is b/c i'm up in the air more and thus my legs are going through more of a cycle motion rather than a kicking forward motion which I do for the first 10. Thus, when I get there after 50ishm, I just get into the form which I know so well now, and put as much power behind each stride as I can, one stride at a time. Edit: trying to do anything else just feels less ecnomical. I've tried t keep my heels lower by kicking more, but that just seems to fight air resistance and the upward motion of my body during each stride.

I am not completely sold that being relaxed will help, because I think another term one could use is awareness. If you become aware of how your stride feels once at top speed, you may realize that trying to fight it by speeding it up or clenching your teeth together doesn't really help, and is actually detrimental if it screwed up your form. But you can be aware and not wasteful of energy.

So memorize how it feels at top speed is what I am offering. To do this you cannot test out submax drills. It has to be 100% effort, but the awareness of form will be more relaxing than clenching the teeth and flexing the neck muscles.



Thanks, so awareness is also important, feel your leg strides, arm swinging from the shoulders. is this what you mean? i guess this is to do with relaxation, as i read that if are relaxed you will be able to feel the swing of the arm, the stride of the legs. my jaws will start "bobbing" up and down lol.

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Yeah, no problem, I was just going over stuff from Charlie Francis, so it was quite convenient for me to find this stuff again.


Drills and mindset can change this.  Mindset wise, from what I've experienced means you just don't worry about it.  That is, don't think too much, just do it, and have fun going at top speed.

As for drills, you can look up speed change drills.  Stuff like EFE, FEF, and fly ins will help you.  EFE means "easy, fast, easy" which is what it sounds like(so is FEF).  It's basically like a fly in, but you focus on relaxing as you accelerate, as well as in top speed, and then you decelerate a little and remain relaxed.  I believe it's also called "float sprint float."  If you look that up on elitetrack, I'm sure you'll get a good explanation of what "float sprint float" drills are.

As for arm action, here is a good video by Tom Tellez, not sure if you've seen this before:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIty_hMMopA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIty_hMMopA</a>


So mindset is just don't think too much just do it. I tend to think about breathing hard for every arm swing, make arm drive up so knee steps over these come to my mind. I guess i just forget this and just run. make it come natural.

I remember seeing this float sprint float drill on youtube i understand what you mean. will search up on elitetrack. so accelerate and concentrate on relaxing then decelerate a little and remain relaxed. so remain relaxed in both but accelerate and then decelerate a little and then accelerate.

and the video, just made me laugh, he is very good and knows a lot about sprinting, was really helpful.

Excellent stuff man really appreciate it,
thanks
 :highfive: :headbang:

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Thats some excellent stuff there thanks.  :headbang:

Is there a way i can over come this like some drills or do i just change my mind set, by relaxing and just pump arms as fast as i can or does relax mean do not try to hard to move my arms.

thanks

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So if someone wanted to increase his squat from 1xBW to 2.5xBW and his next plan is to do hypertrophy to gain some mass, which would be more muscle fibres to utilize. Would it be more wise to:

try increase your squat in the hypertrophy until you reach 2.5xBW

or

should the aim be increase muscle mass, which includes the squat but finish off when you have acquired enough mass and then move on to a strength training routine to carry on increasing your squat where you left of but instead of moving slowly like it was done during hypertrophy but with speed in mind.

or

is there another way because the aim is to increase squat and the hypertrophy workout is next.

lol.

Whats funny about my post?

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When looking at the upright phase of the sprint my thinking is different to what it actually should be, but what i know, which everyone agrees with is that the sprinter should be at max velocity when starting the upright phase.

my confusion deals with the intensity.

My thinking is that when exploding out of the blocks and through the acceleration phase, the sprinter should be using 100% intensity to gather up speed but after is where i go wrong, i am thinking that the sprinter should continue to push even at upright position with max intensity trying to accerate and run as fast as i can then i am, but i found out that this is wrong.

A lot of professional sprinters say that when you reach top speed and upright you should reduce the intensity without slowing down,  :huh: and this is the phase where you relax, pump arms as fast you can while sprinting at a low intensity, being relaxed.

i never did understand this ideology, stay relaxed when running, wouldn't that slow you down.

can anyone explain this to me.

thanks

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So if someone wanted to increase his squat from 1xBW to 2.5xBW and his next plan is to do hypertrophy to gain some mass, which would be more muscle fibres to utilize. Would it be more wise to:

try increase your squat in the hypertrophy until you reach 2.5xBW

or

should the aim be increase muscle mass, which includes the squat but finish off when you have acquired enough mass and then move on to a strength training routine to carry on increasing your squat where you left of but instead of moving slowly like it was done during hypertrophy but with speed in mind.

or

is there another way because the aim is to increase squat and the hypertrophy workout is next.

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I heard that you should squat max about 2.5x bw else if you exceed that then you will start to slow down as you bulk up. so wouldn't squatting 3 or 4x bw slow you down.

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Hi

Looks as if i won't be able to make it to the london olympic trials, i had a sprained ankle and its been 3 weeks with the sprain and i didn't get a chance to time myself.

probably would have not qualified anyway.

oh well there is always next time.

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Boxing / Re: pacuiqao vs bradley soon
« on: June 12, 2012, 08:12:49 am »
I think that maybe bradley himself maybe might be responsible for this.  :ninja:

Such things as he tweeted about a rematch was going to take place and also had a ticket of the rematch at the weigh in.
that is really shady how can a person who knows pacquiao be so assured of winning unless he had tipped the advantage to his favour.

The rematch also puts the marquez vs pacquiao 4 on hold.

pacquiao's contract is also rumoured to end in 2013.

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Boxing / Re: pacuiqao vs bradley soon
« on: June 11, 2012, 10:07:23 am »
Also don't want to start the conspiracies but this gives Top Rank another star  ;)

I doubt that  :P.
Bradley doesn't have the quality of a star and nobody knew him and now boo the decision against him. he is long away from anything like pacquiao or mayweather.

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