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Quote from: Raptor on April 23, 2013, 05:00:37 pm

By the way - I think I'll milk this high bar 3x5 I'm doing right now and once I get stuck (after I reset by 10% and try again) I'll probably switch back to low bar and see if it improved after this high bar squat stint.

If I could front squat I'd definitely do low bar back squat + front squat and call it a day.

just dont keep with the higher bar position if it messes with your knees, otherwise its fine.  Nothing was drastically wrong with your squat the way you were, so youre not going to get a magic carryover from a higher bar position if thats what youre expecting. 

But it's MUCH MORE difficult in this high bar way I'm doing it right now. So I guess that's my quads screaming "we're so WEAK". Sure, I probably go much lower now too, and with a narrower stance the total ROM is longer as well, so there are other differences than just the bar position.

You make the call about how much my knees go out in front:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0932wdPNjA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0932wdPNjA</a>

  I wasnt saying you are not training, my original point was you keep changing the focus, when your goals indicate a much more simple approach.  You could literally do two or three exercises for you lower body, but push the living FUCK out of those few, and do something like bounds and dunks, with a good diet and youd have a whole program that would get you on a linear path upwards rather than this circular one.

^that was what I meant about changing focus

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Well yeah but after I bumped my weight up intentionally to ~87 kg (in order to increase my squat) I'm jumping lower now, even at a higher squat to bodyweight ratio (had 160 kg low bar squat at ~85 or so in the past).

And I'm not talking about the one leg jump specifically but two leg jumps as well.

I guess being this heavy doesn't help jumping at all, even if you increase your squat. But then if I were NOT to try to gain weight AND strength then I'd be "spinning my wheels". Right.

MRI = 200 euros and doesn't do anything for me.

Surgery = possibly getting too much anesthesic or getting infected and dying. Thanks but I'm not interested. I don't trust the doctors. I'd rather expect them to kill me and then say "Oh we're incompetent. D'ah well, you're free to sue us if you don't like it".

Pretty hard to sue people when you're dead.

Actually it's written in that program that it's for a high bar squat. That "calculator" had an excel (in the past) that you could download and in that excel it's writted "high bar squat". It usually correlates well for people in between 5'7-5'11 or so and for me it was pretty accurate for low bar squatting too since I can use more weight with the low bar but I'm also taller than that range (and pretty long boned).

The problem with the low bar squat is that the quads just don't grow (for me). When I do low bar squats I feel like my quads are pretty much isometrically contracted and all the actualy concentric work is done by the posterior chain. Who knows at what degree they're actually doing work?

But yeah, I've been doing low bar squats because of the knee issues, that's correct. You're also right about the very wide stance - not being able to get depth with a medium stance (and not having o-lifting shoes) - I had to stay wider to get deeper.

Maybe if I could've use a medium stance and got deep with the low bar squat then more correlation to jumping would've happened.

I don't get why you think I've hopped around programs when I in fact CONSISTENTLY low bar squatted for 2 years or so. Yeah the programming might've been different every now and then but keep in mind some people change it every 8 weeks or so so... what's the big deal?

They aren't?! FUCK!

Man why did you have to bring that up?!

Man this stuff looks extremely complicated... I don't get anything...

It sounds to me more and more like your worst leg muscle is the hamstring.