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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 04, 2013, 03:00:42 pm »
4 October 2013

Bodyweight@session : ~89,75kg
Soreness : hamstrings, no lower back, RDL form : V
Injuries/aches :  none

Lance's 3-set-progress template  - workout #19

FRONT SQUAT:
5@20kg
3@40kg
3@50kg
2@60kg ( -1 rep )
1@70kg ( -2 reps )
3@75kg ( +1 rep ) , 3RM  :personal-record: , estimated 1RM  :personal-record:
-Sweet. Felt like i had 77,5 in me but not 80.

STANDING OVERHEAD PRESS:
8@42,5kg , ties 8RM  :personal-record:
8@42,5kg ( +2 reps ) , ties 8RM  :personal-record:
6@42,5kg
Total reps = 22 ( +2 reps )
-Small progress in reps, some progress in form/control too.

CHINUPS:
9@BW
8@BW ( +1 rep )
6@BW ( -1 rep )
Total reps = 23
-Was very strong in first 2 sets but run out of gas at third. Third session at same reps, stalled.  >:(

WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
15@38,5kg ( +3,5 kg )
15@38,5kg ( +3,5 kg )
15@38,5kg ( +3,5 kg )

ABS COASTER MACHINE:
15@BW+2,5kg front ( +2,5 kg )
15@BW+2,5kg left ( +2,5 kg )
15@BW+2,5kg right ( +2,5 kg )

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: October 04, 2013, 05:59:01 am »
Athletic-obesity, reverse-leaning, supersizeme-sqwad FTW !!!

On a serious note, deep squatting 195 for 4x5 after sitting on your butt for i don't know how many months is impressive.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Body Fat Decreased?
« on: October 04, 2013, 05:52:24 am »
My 2 cents:

1) Max effort jumping ( and landing ) is extremely taxing, needs recovery, even more as those joints age and rust. You can't go max jumping every day and expect to be at peak.
2) 5-10 max jumps may be too little volume. You never know when you will 'catch' your best jump. You dont want to overdo it but neither underdo it.

(1),(2)=> Don't jump max every day. Do 1 day jumping and 1 day only bball stuff. No more than 3 max jumping days a week, i would go for 2. Now when you jump, do at least 20 jumps. Do a dynamic warmup, then do a jumping warmup ( 5-10 jumps starting with low effort and then building up ). Then do your max jumping in sets. Like sets of 3 or 4 jumps, rest 30 seconds to 1 minute between each jump, rest 3 to 5 minutes between sets. Do at least 20 max jumps. After you reached 20 jumps, stop either when your max jumps dropoff by 2-3 inches or at 30 jumps.

A 3d cent : Your training goes great currently. Strong, lean, good plan ( strength training + jumping ). Don't you dare change anything scooby, you have finally found a good balance. Maybe just cut the regular 1RM PR attempts. When you reach that grinding rep, STOP, the next failed one does not offer anything, on the contrary. Keep the PR/testign sessions to 1 session per month or something like that.

:lololol:

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zomg, it is a forced deload / higher volume preparation phase, perfect!

:uhhhfacepalm:

Feel better man!

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: October 03, 2013, 03:10:11 pm »
Jordan vs OJ Mayo:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1386222778279781&set=vb.593397937359232&type=2&theater

Awesome find!  :highfive:
That is back in 2006 from what i read, 43 years old MJ schooling 18 years old OJ Mayo.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/watch-michael-jordan-school-a-teen-o-j--mayo-at-his-camp--hear-o-j--s-side-of-m-j--s-1-on-1-story--videos--150037198.html

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goInA2sgWNs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goInA2sgWNs</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZzs4kbGbiE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZzs4kbGbiE</a>

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 03, 2013, 03:04:17 pm »
3 October 2013

Stretched legs for ~40 minutes.
Did the complete lower body stretch routine i do, holding each position for 2 minutes.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 02, 2013, 03:38:16 pm »
2 October 2013

Bodyweight@session : ~88,75kg
Soreness : hamstrings (?!) and calves 2/5
Injuries/aches :  none

Lance's 3-set-progress template  - workout #18

ROMANIAN DEADLIFT:
8@80kg ( +2 reps )
8@80kg
8@80kg ( +1 rep )
Total reps = 24 ( +3 reps )
-Very strong

INCLINE BENCH BB PRESS:
8@55kg ( +1 rep ) :personal-record:
8@55kg ( +1 rep ) :personal-record:
7@55kg
Total reps = 23 ( +2 reps )
-Silly PR is silly but still welcomed. Previous PR was 7@55kg but i have progressed them only 7 weeks last year.

UPRIGHT BB ROW:
8@45kg ( +1 rep ) :personal-record:
8@45kg ( +1 rep ) :personal-record:
7@45kg
Total reps = 23 ( +2 reps )
-Same comment with incline bench. Previous PR was 8@42,5 from progressing them only 7 sessions last year.

BICEPS EZ BAR CURL:
12@32kg ( +2 reps )
12@32kg ( +2 reps )
11@32kg ( +1 rep )

TRICEPS CABLE PUSHDOWN:
12@32,5kg ( +2 reps )
12@32,5kg ( +2 reps )
11@32,5kg ( +1 rep )

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 02, 2013, 05:35:29 am »
^Yeah, it turns out i had 'agree to disagree' meaning wrong in my mind, I mostly agree with everything.
The point i wanted to highight is that the gym will not improve your basketball skills but it will improve your athletic skills. Maybe speed, maybe agility, maybe strength, maybe acceleration, maybe vert, maybe just inertia from your increased mass. But those, with your given skills , will make you a better player than you were. Or, to put yet another perspective at it, we can see the athletic features as skills too. It's kind of neglected, you can say someone's FG% ability to a demical point percision but you can't say 'he can block out guys up to 250lbs', you just get a void 'he is strong'.
Another factor, You HAVE to practice your skills to even preserve them. That goes the other way around. So the equations are:
same skills + better athlete = better player
better skills + same athlete = better player
worse skills + better athlete = unknown.
better skills + worse athlete = unknown.
To sum up and find where we all agree , better skills + better athlete = GOLD. So gym+skills practice is the way.

inb4 : no shit sherlock !  :uhhhfacepalm:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 01, 2013, 11:53:45 am »
Agree to disagre with you guys.
Indeed game strength =/= gym strength, but they are still correlated. Becoming strong at the gym might not transform you from Touriaf to Kobe, but still , you will be a better Touriuaf than in the past. If you want to improve your skills, yes, you have to practice them, there is no other way. But taking your squat from 1xBW to 2xBW will give you a much better SVJ, dropstep and 1st step. Similarily a bigger bench press/push press will make you much better at blocking out. Being 5-10kg heavier will make you draw contact better. Those will make you a better player with the same skills that you had. Also, a lot depends on the position you play. I play PF. When i gym, i can blockout better, i jump higher off dropstep and SVJ which is 99% of the rebound/block/attack jumps of my game (in the paint), so fuck you fancy crossovers and pullup Js. The 5'7'' guy or Nate Robinson will still beat me. But the guy who barely beat me in the past will lose now.
Just a different perspective  :lololol:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: September 30, 2013, 02:39:17 pm »
Well a silly PR is still a PR which is still progress, and that's what we care about.

Agreed, just didn't want to sound bragging over a granted PR :D.



30 September 2013

Bodyweight@session : ~89,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

Lance's 3-set-progress template  - workout #17

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
8@67,5kg ( +2,5kg )
8@67,5kg ( +2,5kg )
8@67,5kg ( +2,5kg )
-Great. Better depth/form/control than last time although heavier!  :highfive:

BENCH PRESS:
8@60kg ( +1 rep )
8@60kg ( +1 rep )
8@60kg ( +1 rep )
Total reps = 24 ( +3 reps )
-Very hard but strong.

SEATED CHEST SUPPORTED ROW MACHINE:
8@65kg
8@65kg ( +1 rep )
8@65kg ( +1 rep )
Total reps = 24 ( +2 reps )
-Very hard but strong here too.

STANDING CALVE RAISES:
15@55kg ( +5kg )
15@55kg ( +5kg )
15@55kg ( +5kg )
-Full pause at top and bottom of ROM.

Good day!

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: Squats vs. Performance
« on: September 30, 2013, 06:58:59 am »
To sort of answer your question in the above post, I read a while ago how the best UK long jumpers can produce over 5000N of isometric force in an isometric squat test. Don't know what the consensus is but that number isn't unachievable without good numbers in the gym.
http://www.elitetrack.com/forums/viewthread/10165/#92131

Made a quick search:

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/211_fall2002.web.dir/peter_broady/pages/Thesquat.htm

The Physics of the Squat
What makes squatting the most effective lift? The answer is the downward pull of gravity on the lifter. The squatter is essentially pushing directly against gravity. Gravity is a an attractive force that acts on every thing that has mass in the universe. Isaac Newton, famous physicist and mathematician, discovered the laws that govern this force. His law of universal gravitation states that:
Every particle in the Universe attracts every other particle with a force that is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.
From this law, the the acceleration due to this force of gravity near the surface of the earth is approximately 9.8 meters per second squared. This means that if two object are dropped from the same height, they will hit the ground at the same time, regardless of how much they weigh(of course, one must neglect air resistance). This is how weight is defined. An objects weight is defined as the acceleration of gravity g multiplied by its mass m (mg). For example, a person having a mass of 50 kilograms(kg) would have a weight of 490 kg meters per second squared, or 490 Newtons(N). The acceleration of gravity constant was found using Newton's famous three laws of motion:
1. In the absence of external forces, an object at rest remains at rest and an object in motion remains in motion with a constant velocity.
2. The acceleration of an object is directly proportional to the net force acting on it and inversely proportional to its mass.(The equation (F=ma, or Force=mass * acceleration).
3. If two objects interact,the force exerted by the first object on the second object is equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to the force by the second object on the first.
The Squat incorporates all of these laws. For example, take the man squatting in the picture below. Let's say that he has a mass of 100 kg and the weight has a mass of about 350 kg. What force must he exert on the bar to stop himself at parallel, the position shown in the picture?
( www.graphics.stanford.edu)
Let's call the mass of the man m and the mass of the weight M. The total downward force acting is:
F = mg + Mg = (100 kg)(9.8 m/s^2) + (350 kg)(9.8 m/s^2) = 4410 N
Since F = ma and the man, at this instant he is at parallel is not accelerating, therefore a =0 and the net force acting in the system must equal 0. This means that the man must exert a force equal and opposite to the force applied. This force is called a normal force(n). The downward force exerted on the man is 4410 N, so when he is sitting at parallel, he must be exerting a force of 4410 N as well. This problem is an example of static equilibrium, or when an object has no acceleration, making the net force equal to zero. The man must exert a force greater than 4410 N to lift the weight from parallel.
What force must the man exert to accelerate the weights up at 1 m/s^2? Once again, we use Newton's second law, F = ma. The equation for the forces acting on the object is:
F = ma = n - (M + m)g = n - 4410= (450kg)(1 m/s^2)
n = force of man = 450 N + 4410 N = 4860 N
The man must exert a force of 4860 N on the bar to accelerate the weights at 1 m/s^2.

Long story short: 4860N is the force that a 100kg man needs to apply to squat 350kg ( 3,5*BW ) with the bar accelerating up with 1m/sec2. This means he would complete the lift in less than 2 seconds.

Can you please explain how 'that number isn't unachievable without good numbers in the gym' about 5000N ?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: September 27, 2013, 03:05:57 pm »
27 September 2013

Bodyweight@session : ~90kg , heaviest i have been in the last 2 years or so.
Soreness : hamstrings and lower back, RDL form needs check.
Injuries/aches :  none

Lance's 3-set-progress template  - workout #16

JUMP SNATCH:
Postponed. The only squat rack gets easily taken so gotta grab it when i walk in the gym and it's free. Maybe i will do those after squats.

FRONT SQUAT:
5@20kg
3@40kg
3@50kg
3@60kg
3@70kg , 3RM  :personal-record: , estimated 1RM  :personal-record:
2@75kg , 2RM  :personal-record: , estimated 1RM  :personal-record:
-Silly PRs are silly. I started front squatting last year in an injured state, so breaking my 1RM PR of 70kg is no big news.
-Could have gotten the 72,5kg triple but god greedy. Didn't even try the 3d rep @ 75kg, 2nd was a tough grinder.
-Was right about wrists, no problem at all, it was the high reps killing them.

STANDING OVERHEAD PRESS:
8@42,5kg ( +1 rep ) , ties 8RM  :personal-record:
6@42,5kg
6@42,5kg
Total reps = 20 ( +1 rep )

CHINUPS:
9@BW
7@BW
7@BW
Total reps = 23
-Same reps with last week but 1,5kg heavier, i will take it.

WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
15@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@35kg ( +2,5 kg )

ABS COASTER MACHINE:
15@BW front
15@BW left
15@BW right

5 weeks in the gym and i hit my first PRs. Awesome!  :highfive:

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^Agree on everything. I am trying to fix that midfoot thing, i have some progress but not there yet. One important cue ( which i am sure i am the last on the planet to discover ) is resetting between reps. A little off at descent, ascent follows, a little more off on next, bla bla bla , by rep 5 you are squatmorninging. Also i tend to fall down too fast, which of course causes loss of the descent path control. Lance gave a cue for than in the past: you don't need to make it a slow tempo rep, but you can start slow and then once your descent is under control, speed it up.
Just thinking loud here for anyone who might benefit from that chat.

also, nice shoes. ... wanna fuck? *groan*  :uhhhfacepalm:

Don't be cheap, you play on the big league now with the Romaleos 2, my powerperfect IIs are half the price.  :-*
Uhmmmm, did you get a good look at raptor's adipowers ???  :derp:

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^Cool , i thought i was the only one dumb enough to make pictures like that comparing front and back squatting form :D

This is from 2 weeks ago, 60kg backsquats and 55kg front squats. It is the 8th rep of 3d set for both, wanted to see how bad my worse rep is:


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 26, 2013, 03:24:51 pm »
You have been saying indeed for a long time, do it. You haven't tried it anyway, except that small period that steven-miller got everyone in here into SS-bulk mentality.
But really, 175/11% is a great starting point for a slow clean bulk, i am sure you would benefit athletically too, slowly going to an athletic mid-high 180s frame.

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