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Basketball / Re: Ball-Handling Programs
« on: August 02, 2011, 05:01:55 am »
I guess I didn't mention this before so my philosophy isn't really clear.

There is a difference in what I consider ball-handling drills and what you guys probably consider ball-handling drills.

I'm going to guess most people lump and kind of dribbling practice into ball-handling drills.

But what I was talking about and what I teach my kids are that ball-handling drills are (stationary, and 2-3 step drills w/ the ball), then I teach my kids that dribble-drive moves are (used on the go, or to break down a man 1-on-1 or in the open court or in the key under heavy pressure and defense).

I was only talking about ball-handling drills before and assumed that's what he meant. But I think he may have been asking more for what I consider dribble-drive moves. There's a completely different mentality when training these two different styles of dribbling.

Exactly.

The drills I perform stationairy are usually moves and include footwork or a specific task (pounding hard, getting the crossover tighter, getting shoulders to move, keeping back straight, landing on the balls of the foot, stepping forward not sideways etc).
I have noticed a huge difference when applying these myself because I can really focus on a couple of these aspects before performing the moves, on the move. In my experience, not doing these drills stationairy first, will make for a less effective on-the-move drill, plus you get a lot of reps in short ammount of time doing them stationairy.
This is ofcourse, only when trying to learn of perfect a move you have not mastered yet.

Not sure if they fit the mold of strict stationairy drills though as the player does move back/forth (pivot stays though), def don't advice figure 8's etc.

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Basketball / Re: Ball-Handling Programs
« on: August 01, 2011, 03:51:54 am »
unless you are a 12 year old learning the game, do NOT do stationary basketball drills other then a QUICK warmup.
i call complete bullshit.

I don't call complete BS, but it's definitely not a very wise statement. Stationary drills can be extremely helpful to kids/players of all ages. It just has to be the right kind of stationary work. It's all about difficulty and throwing in an added element to the work. There's literally thousands of variations of drills that are stationary and helpful to all ages.

Co-sign.
I still implement stationairy ball handling drills for about 20 minutes daily. It's not even about the variations, more-so about intensity. Most pound dribbles are a great way to improve ballhandling imo.

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: July 28, 2011, 04:50:07 am »
Got this through an Adarq youtube like, sickness.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNfOwZtQY5w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNfOwZtQY5w</a>

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How anyone failed to see Sickenin was trollin after his ~3rd reply is beyond me.
Got it to 8 pages tho? Good job, bruh.

I think the original post is quite interesting, these trainers obv know training in cycles of strength/power while maintaining balance would be a better option then just the functional stuff they're doing right now, I also think Andrew was right on the money in his first reply, so was Lance.

I absolutely do think safety and the $ are involved to a certain degree, which is a shame, 'cause proper training could further enhance the game and reduce injuries. However you'd think these trainers could teach a squat properly and know it's advantages so their reasoning would still be weird to me. These trainers get paid thousands of dollars and are (supposedly) highly educated, it just doesn't make any sense to not add serious strength and power to your athlete just because of safety, there has to be more to it.

One reason, I think, is not just safety, but also optimum basketball performance and longevity.
We have to keep in mind these guys routinely play 30-40 game minutes of extremely intense basketball for about 80/120 times a year. Highlighting game minutes, because I know the difference between an all out 3 hour practise session and 20 minutes of playing time all too well (ie. game time being more stressfull on the body; I'm absolutely dead after a game and can train twice a day for hours at a time easily, trainig-intensity obv varies, game-time not so much).

Keeping these guys light would make it easy on the joints and might help in the long run, furthermore, keeping them highly conditioned (not necesarily ox strong) iwhile keeping them effective is a top priority. Extra muscle, extra power might (again, MIGHT) wear on an athlete throughout the season. Implementing highly intense weight sessions after that season is over and before they go right into training-camp might seem like an overkill to the joints.
I'm not saying this reasoning is right for every situation, but I could understand it under some circumstances.

I also think it's a shame and it's probably also the reason we don't see huge transformations in player. For instance, I don't think Kevin Durant will pack muscle before the age of 29/30, the age he's likely to lose a step and is going to need another advantage.
What's amazing though, when that kind of need is there, with hungry athletes, you suddenly see a huge change (Think of the extra muscle Jordan was carrying after his return, think Kobe kobe packing 30 lbs over a single summer, losing it all the season after because of his knees).
The knowledge and capacity to change athletes is there, the need however, is not.

Can't say I agree, but I think I do understand.

PS, saw some comments on basketball and athleticism earlier.
In high level basketball, athleticism should not be underrated, pretty sure John stockton was a beast athlete, dude could defend guys twice his size, that's not just basketball IQ.
Only guy I could think of right now that wasn't a certified athlete that played in the NBA is Steve Kerr (6'3/175?) but he's one of the greatest shooters EVER. Height/weight is definately a HUGE aspect of being athletic. Just because a guy is kinda fat/slow, dude can still be effective athletically because of his height and mass.
Being able to utilize your specific athleticism creates a huge advantage over someone that does not poses the same kind of ability.

Long post n all over the place, not sure if I'm right, it's all speculation.
Hope it does push this discussion into the right direction though.
Pce

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: July 24, 2011, 04:07:49 pm »
Know that kid since he's partially Dutch.
One of the biggest european prospects right now, not really known as a highflyer though.
Google his stat lines from his u20 games, they're off the charts.

example:
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Van Oostrum's 3 crazy minutes
02-10-2010
No comment. British guard Devon Van Oostrum ('93) has made this morning an amazing performance with Caja Laboral Vitoria in a U-18 Basque League game against Tabirako Baqué, of Durango. According to ACB.COM columnist Jon de la Presa the prospect nailed 19 points, pulled down 4 rebounds, made 4 steals, dished 2 assists and put 2 blocks in only 3 minutes in a half, between m.6 and m.9 of first quarter. Van Oostrum has made the pre-season with the ACB squad, coached by Dusko Ivanovic, and it seems that he will have a spot in their Euroleague's roster.

Anyways
Friend 'o mine:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cREyrWDlCk0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cREyrWDlCk0</a>

Off the side of the backboard over a car? Pretty nice.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dunks from 09.07.2011
« on: July 14, 2011, 06:21:17 am »
Holy SH*T

dunk at 0:40 mark was INSANE.  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

Too bad you didn't seem to think so.
To add even more cool points next time, you sir, are going to need a badass background tune.
I suggest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YUXIKrOFk

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: July 12, 2011, 07:20:16 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NftWep48kY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NftWep48kY</a>

Contest starts at 3 minutes. "red-bull" Guy is crazy, T-dubbish.

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Did the B workout on wed. Progression on the pin squats and RDL.

Light upper on tues, ball work and some benching/rowing on thurs. A few jumps, but cut it short, ankle was feeling fucked.
Some 5 on 5 pickup at the company gym today, everyone's starting up for the company tourney.

I played point for this team last year, made it to semi. A finalist team asked if I wanted to join them this year. Still undecided. Current team doesn't like to play defense, so I'm always going at them...

made my first stepback. Hahaha I'm thrilled. Spent quite abit of time on it. Can only do it with a right foot stepin, frm a lefty dribble tho.

Sweet!

I'm imagining it looked something like:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goDrdfxZGQo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goDrdfxZGQo</a>

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: June 30, 2011, 04:51:05 am »
^^ amazing, such a quick bounce.

Stumbled upon this dude:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0FMbwVs_zY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0FMbwVs_zY</a>

Style out of this world.
Last dunk is mindboggling.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Core Power - Barbell rollout progression.
« on: June 28, 2011, 06:20:22 am »
Lance, Andrew

I'd like to know your thoughts on improving core power aside from compound exercises.
I feel my core is my weak point and am doing my barbell rollouts/med ball throws religiously, but I haven't been seeing much progression in these exercises though; I can still only do a barbell rollout kneeled (about 20 easy) and am still at the same ammount of med ball throws 'till failure.

What's your oppinion on the progression of these lifts? The core contains the same type of muscles your whole body does, so progressive resistance and gradually more difficult exercses seems best to me.
I'd like to be able to do a standing barbell rollout and have found a couple of good video's, but I'd like to know your oppinion first.

In conclusion, doing compound lifitng requires a huge ammount of core work, but I think sufficient additional core work (more than the barbell rollouts + med ball throws) or even a 'core day' wouldn't be such a bad idea.

Thoughts?

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: June 27, 2011, 06:29:20 pm »
Holy sh*t.

Dude with the headband (Myree/Remix?) is an Animal.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dan Pfaff seminar
« on: June 22, 2011, 02:41:34 pm »
Thanks a bunch! Definately checking these out when I see the time.

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: June 22, 2011, 02:36:35 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_3kVNs7nwQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_3kVNs7nwQ</a>

Dunk @ 1:24?



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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: The Motivational Thread
« on: June 20, 2011, 03:10:03 am »
DGAF if this was already posted.

Still one of the most α videos I've ever seen

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6G2e5rS0Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6G2e5rS0Q</a>

Basketball/Kobe version (sick edit) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak1fjpySNwo

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Wan't that bad actually.

REJOICE! A THREAD 4 SWEET BABY JESUS' MUSIC!

'Best' religious-related-rap-record I know was this soft ass track that was huge in basketball mixes a year or 2 ago.

Never, ever really got that chorus out of my head  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

Be warned.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Lv_hi-H0w" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Lv_hi-H0w</a>

track =
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-yCg-0-baE&feature=related


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