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Messages - Joel Smith

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I take it back, I just went in the weightroom and set up a 48" hurdle.... I think it might actually be 48".  I have a challenge cut out for me now, haha!

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I am also not 100% sure that hurdle is 48"... just because it comes up to the top of where his shorts would be when he is at full drop and he is 5'10".  I am 6'1 almost, and the top of my trochanter is 39-40".  The top of my shorts is around 42".  If I pull them up like Urkel, it is 48".   It is still beastly off one leg though!!! Who knows maybe it really is 48" I'll try this next week when my back is feeling a bit better and see what I come up with.

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I'll give it a shot soon!  I can do single leg hurdle hops over 39" so I might be able to pull off a single response over higher.  I don't know if I can get 48" though.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: 40 Inch vertical off two feet
« on: June 28, 2011, 11:28:42 pm »
thanks guys. 

Kingfish, I just wish I had your standing vertical! Mine is only around 33 right now. 

Raptor, my injury isn't too bad.  it has been much worse in the past, basically I just can't jump off two legs right now, and squatting heavy is out of the question.  I really want to get back to it soon though, my olympic lifts have been going through the roof!

I think I was at the point where I could have hang cleaned about 275+ and snatch was going to hit 225 shortly.  Oh well, I'll get them both in a month hopefully, although seeing that hang cleans were the cause of my injury.... i don't know how soon i'll be going back to them. 

the cool thing about returning to squatting after an SI joint injury is I brace the hell out of my core when I squat, and get serious glute activation as well, because I move slow and am so scared of hurting myself again.... and I usually pick up a few inches of vertical in the process :)  i think also it gives a chance for my fatigue from squatting heavy to go away and I can usually jump and bound really well.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: 40 Inch vertical off two feet
« on: June 27, 2011, 11:16:59 pm »
thanks guys.  The injury will set me back from full training for about 4 weeks.  I'll be back to front squatting next week probably, but i'll have to work tempo hard and start kind of light. I'll be able to jump and run shortly though. I am working pistol squats like crazy at the moment, trying to get up to Javier Sotomayor status (300 for reps according to Dan Pfaff.... unbelievable!)


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Pics, Videos, & Links / 40 Inch vertical off two feet
« on: June 27, 2011, 10:32:14 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NR080anQko

Yeahhhhh.  And then I popped my SI joint on one of my last sets of cleans.  260x2 would have been cake too.


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I was going to make a comment about his GCT being too long, but then I remembered that he can jump way higher than I can.  So I won't say anything. 

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Also, what is the injury pathology on your right knee?

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You can definitely have simulaneous contractions of your quad and hams during jumping.  I think your problem lies in the recruitment patterns of your VMO and lateralis.  The low hamstring weakness/collapse makes no sense in terms of that leading to knee collapse.  Well it is an interesting note.... the hamstring is an antagonist to the knee extension in jumping, but an agonist to the hip extension you need.  Of course, the primary driver of hip extension in single leg jumping, as well as the stronger muscle is the glute group.  I suppose if your hamstrings were too active during the eccentric loading of the quad, that could lead to buckling, but whose motor programming would have them do that?  Personally, I think it is more motor patterns and inter/intramuscular coordination rather than direct strength which are leading to your problems.  How is your glute strength?  Perhaps if your glute group wasnt strong enough your hamstring would have to get recruited extra for hip extension?

Maybe try this test for me, try a track and field long jump and see what happens with your leg if it buckles.  The hamstring is going to be more active in that than a dunk attempt. 


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: June 24, 2011, 08:35:23 pm »
Andrew, how are you liking the "litinov" workout? (400 + weights?)

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Heavy snatch misses from today
« on: June 23, 2011, 05:45:24 pm »
my own thoughts, I usually lift in my vibrams so the higher heeled shoes do push me forward a little.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Heavy snatch misses from today
« on: June 23, 2011, 05:44:50 pm »
Closing in on my goal of 225 at 180lbs bodyweight :)

If any of you weightlifting guru's out there want to help me find a way to hit the lift a little more centered at the bottom, please let me know!  I smoked 195 before these two attempts. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaZACZotMEs

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Dan Pfaff seminar
« on: June 23, 2011, 01:36:26 pm »
I am having withdrawal symptoms in anticipation of the rest of this video, but you said it was on www.athleticscoaching.ca?

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: High Jump Program Interesting
« on: June 23, 2011, 12:19:33 pm »
Cool article, it's funny I was reading it, and the further I got, the more familiar it all sounded, and then I realized I actually own this book, haha. 

The program.... too many weeks of straight loading, too high intensity on max lifts maybe drop it down 10%.  Other than that, its cool, maybe replace single leg depth jumps with single leg hurdle hops, but a Russian high jump coach I have been talking to made a lot of use of single leg depth and single leg triple jumps when he jumped 7'6.5 back in the day. 

Overall, decent program, I give it a B+, haha. 

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Raptor,

What you are talking about with the function of the hamstrings is more of an issue in regards to the prevention of ACL tears (supposedly, the jury is still out exactly how much that function helps).  The role of the hamstring when the leg is bent slightly is to prevent forward translation/movement of the top of the tibia on the femur. 

If your knee is giving out on jumps, I believe this is purely the function of the quad muscle group, although how is your ankle stiffness?  If you are a hard heel planter that maybe could make things a little harder for your other muscle groups. 

The hamstring really only does 2 things in dynamic movement, flexes the knee and extends the hip.  The hip extension segment is the part of one leg jumping that you should care about and it happens after the whole "knee buckle phase" has passed. 

Also, your quads can be strong, but can they fire quickly? I do see you do a few single leg drops, but from a very low box, maybe you should try a higher box and put the pressure on the front 2/3 of your foot.   

I feel I am correct in this post, but maybe there is research out there I have not seen to prove me wrong :)

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