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31
yesterday

- marathon race in 3:07:12 (chip), 3:05:56 (watch)
measured distance was 42.39 km, which accounts for most of the discrepancy between the times. failed to hit sub-3:05, which was the A goal, but did get sub-3:10 and i had enough gas left at the end to pass a bunch of people in the final miles. split was pretty close to even but slightly negative, 1:33:30 and then 1:32:26 using the watch record. my legs started to get tired around mile 19 - there was a big hill between miles 18 and 19, the only real one on the course - but i never hit the wall. plenty to be happy about despite not hitting the A goal. conditions were good, overcast and high-40s/low-50s, although it was pretty breezy and some of the more exposed sections were into a meaningful headwind.

but one huge frustration: i had to stop to go to the bathroom twice! lost around 90 seconds to those stops. the second one, right after the halfway point, i even had to take a shit. what the hell! i went to the bathroom about 45 minutes before the race started but i started to have to pee again a few minutes later and the lines were too long to go again closer to the gun (horn). i could probably have gotten away with just peeing at the second stop but it wouldn't have taken much less time and at that point i figured if i was going to stop, i might as well get whatever was in there out to minimize the chances of a third stop.

it sucks to think that i could have run 3:05 official and even sub-3:05 on my watch if not for my stupid bladder. gonna have to do some research around that. IIRC, i never had to use the bathroom during the 50k back in october. during the JFK i did, during the first segment.

congrats dude! awesome effort! i still cannot imagine being out on my feet for that long, let alone chugging along at a serious pace for over 3 hours  :ibrunning:

couple other data points/reflections:
  • my right peroneal hurt and felt swollen for the first 10 km or so. my shins have been bugging me for the last week or so, which has been weird and came seemingly out of nowhere. something else to research. and my left ankle also bugged me off and on for the first 10 km. shins were also probably the most tired single muscle group at the end of the race as well, and even this morning, although overall i feel pretty good right now.
  • my intervals.icu fitness graph is interesting to look back at. in the green for pretty much all of january and february, then dipping down to blue when i got sick in early march, then back into the green for a few days before going up into the blue again during the ski trip. but then from about march 22-april 16, it's in the grey. started to dip into the blue again last weekend, as previously noted, and had just tipped into the blue on saturday, which is good. but i didn't feel as fresh as i've felt at other times. that shin feeling is part of it. i know copeland says "in the green, too keen; in the gray, okay." but i kind of felt like i was gaining more fitness during the early going and the graph seems to bear that out.
also, i just revised my threshold pace down to 4:03, from 4:12. the latter was probably too conservative, 4:03 is what my watch estimates for me right now and it is spot-on with predicted race times (1:28:09, 3:06:16 full; bathroom breaks be damned), so i'll go with that.
  • i basically stopped strength training or doing any kind of soft tissue work at least a month before the race. that's probably not ideal.
  • mileage averaged 72 km/45 miles per week, against a plan target of 85/53. i also never actually reached the peak mileage, getting close to 100 km a few times early on but never crossing it. that includes the ski week, which i knew about going in, and also getting sick for a few days in march. but mileage dropped significantly in the last 6-7 weeks, especially the two weeks leading up to the half. it looks like that basically explains the transition from green to gray on the intervals.icu training graph, which i suppose makes sense. on the plus side, apart from the illness and the ski trip, i only skipped two planned training days. never got hurt during the block and so i think in the next build i could shoot for higher mileage overall. and i think it's time to just switch to running every day. that will make it easier to raise weekly mileage and also reduce the impact of missing the odd day.

long story short: i'm glad to have done it and given it what i had. some things to figure out for the next one. and now, i'm even more motivated than before to break 3 hours.

i've been wondering about strength work in the closing weeks before a race -- feel like during the peak weeks, dropping it probably make  sense since you want every ounce of recovery to be going available for the maximal specific load, but bringing back a couple of old-school verkhoshansky peaking lift things in the taper might make sense? not really sure -- would be curious what the top guys do.

as a side note, the winner ran 2:05, a huge course record. glass city is usually pretty fast for a mid-sized (~5,000 runners between the half and the full) race: the announcer at the start said about a third of entrants usually qualify for boston. but not that fast. impressive! and unlike the kenyans who just destroyed the WR in london, he's probably not juiced to the gills.

hey sawe might maybe kind of possibly be clean: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXm6p-TFWv9/

also, lol, this toledo marathon winner got a mention in the magness video on london: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69NbsEvYFkM&t=1150s

32
27-04-26

Run -- 9.48k, 54:50

Notes

Legs a bit heavy/sore, but still 5:47 pace and 127 HR. Woop woop.

Going to need to come up with some new routes or just embrace the amount of looping of the park i'm going to have to do

eta: signed up for a 10k in july and half in sept, both in london. looked at the amsterdam half b/c would like to travel for a race at some point, but already sold out. should poke around to see what looks interesting in late winter/early spring 2027, i guess

33
26-04-26

Run -- 13.56k, 1:17:30

Notes

Kept it a little shorter just to play it safe, but actually felt pretty good, could easily have been my normal run length I think. Legs and body definitely tired upon waking up and starting to move aroudn, but once I got out the door it was all A-OK (evinced by pace/hr, esp as i did this run around noon so it was 'hot' for me)

83k, 7h16m. 3k further but 20 mins less time on feet than previous biggest week. Will aim for closer to get 7.5 hours on feet this week, plus another 20k session on the Saturday, so should be 85k+. Then week after probably just a normal NSW week to begin the taper. Hype hype.

Bit of knee twinge in am but not while running. Keeping an eye on that.

also, wow wtf that london marathon, might have to get me a pair of these: https://news.adidas.com/running/adidas-unveils-its-first-sub-100-gram-supershoe--the-adizero-adios-pro-evo-3/s/ded7b6a2-952a-4246-b675-4129f78787c4

34
25-04-26

AM:

Run
- w/u
- 16k @ 97% HM [4:15 average]
- c/d

21.19k, 1:38:14

PM:

Lift
RDL, Calves, Rev Nord, some KB stuff, chins, dips, curls, laterals
foam rolling (!!)

Notes

Well well well. That felt _great_. Didn't even touch 170 HR until KM 12, and only average 170 for 2 KM (final 2 were both 169) and max HR was 174 (and I'm fairly certain at this point that LTHR is 175-177, based on 5k, 10k, and HM data). Set a 10 mile PB (1:08:36, vs 1;08:45 that I ran in the half 6 months ago), and RPE was very moderate -- maybe lower than last Saturday's big workout!? Avg temp was 16 C during this run, too, so warmest run I've dealt with. All signs are looking positive!

Took 70g carbs during this run (40g via gel, 30g via my water).

Read a useful John Davis article last night (https://runningwritings.com/2025/07/sub-70-half-marathon-training.html), so took inspiration from there for this workout. I guess next Saturday I'll do something like the "5 × (3 km at 100% HMP, 1 km at 85–90% HMP)" workout that he describes, though maybe not quite as intense as that. Will see how I feel.

Tomorrow's run probably won't be a full LR, though we'll see how the legs feel.

ETA: left calf felt pretty stiff so managed to motivate self to get up and do some lifting. decided even to foam roll a bit. felt a lot better after! and tbh wasn't feeling that bad before -- agai, much better than I felt after last week's workout

35
24-04-26

Run -- 10.21k, 56:11

Notes

!!! 5:30 pace, 130 avg HR, like a full 30s/km faster than usual. No GPS fuckery as far as I can tell either, and this is while carrying about as much fatigue as I ever have. The fitness might truly, finally be coming all in one go? will see how this weekend goes, too

i have been making an effort this week to get in more carbs/food in general which could be a factor, plus some life stress has been alleviating itself, and also now just under 2 weeks since the 10k, so gains from that manifesting?

trying to decide what tomorrow's big workout should be, will peruse the john davis book, i guess.

36
23-04-26

Run
- w/u
- 5 x 6' (1') [4:09 average]
- c/d

11.64k, 56:44

Notes

so-so workout, but knee feeling basically fine today at least

37
22-04-26

Run -- 7.17k, 42:43

Notes

Hmm, bit of knee pain and kind of felt like I was running on a stiff left leg for first 5 mins or so, but was then fine. Still, cut it short. Ugh.

38
21-04-26

Run
- w/u
- 3 x 11' (1'30") [4'14" average]
- c/d

12.04k, 58:19

Lift
Curls, Lateral Raises, a few sets of pogo hops

Notes

Bit of left knee and right heel pain. Didn't feel either in the run, just when walking about later in the day. Hopefully transient.

Well that's like 2/3 seconds/km than I've done this workout before, and this was after the biggest weekend I've had + it's 11' reps instead of 10' and and avg HR during reps was 157 (normally mid 160s). RPE felt as normal, and HR is pretty variable (and I don't trust the Coros optical arm strap as much as the not-yet-broken chest strap), but still, those seem like good signs! Esp given recovery state.

39
20-04-26

Run -- 7.74k, 47:18

Notes

Legs pretty tired. Pretty sore from lifting yesterday too.

5th wedding anniversary today!

40
19-04-26

AM
Run -- 17.64k, 1:41:29

PM
Chins, Dips, RDLs, OL Calfs, Rev Nord, Curls, Laterals

Notes

Thought I'd be feeling bad after yesterday since legs felt pretty worn out, but nope, instead this was the best long run I've ever had. 5:45 avg pace, 129 avg hr.

will try to do some lifting this afternoon

eta: got the lifting in -- feels so much better doing it separated out

41
18-04-26

Run
- w/u
- 11k tempo [4:37 avg pace, 157 HR]
- 3k ~SubT [4:23, 4:12, 4:11]
- c/d

17.47k, 1:24:49 total

Notes

Didn't particularly intend for those last 3k to be faster, but the first of them happened without effort, so I, perhaps unwisely, decided to push just a little for the remaining 2k (HR still stayed sub 170 for those reps, which I'm pretty happy with for that combination of temperature/fatigue/pace!)

Thankfully knee bruising from yesterday no impediment here.

Will see how I feel tomorrow -- 97 load per intervals, which is the biggest session I've done other than the half and a random hard long run from last May (in which I averaged a higher HR, but ran the same distance in an extra 18 minutes. Fitness!)

42
17-04-26

Run -- 7.75k, 49:33

Notes

Meant for this to be more of a 65 minute run but I tripped on a gravel path and was bleeding pretty profusely from two fingers on my right hand. Luckily was near a public bathroom so got my hand cleaned up quickly, but was still bleeding so just took the direct route home at the point. Nothing too bad, though lost a fair bit of skin on my right pinky's knuckle, and a few grazed on elbow and knees. Left knee feels a little bruised but I think just external and should be good for tomorrow.

Plan is ~80 mins, with ~60 @ ~4:30-4:40 if think feel good tomorrow.

This Sunday is 4 weeks out, so time to stack the last big batch of training.

43
16-04-26

Run
- w/u
- 5 x (6'12" on / 1' off) [4:04 average]
- c/d

11.89k, 57:28

Notes

nice. had a caffeinated gel before this one. for weekday runs, i get up, drink water, visit toilet, and them am out the door. haven't felt like either prepping a drinks bottle or then carrying one with me on runs, but decided to try out fueling a bit before sessions. seems helpful. though given it's getting a bit warm, at least warm enough that i am now actually sweating during a run, i may have my hand forced and return to taking water

44
15-04-26

Run -- 8.84k, 54:17

Notes

Kind of had a bit of troubled getting good breaths at points in this run. Was 'warm' (14 C) and humid (85%) but idk. Wasn't an effort thing, HR was 120s at the time.

Haven't felt anything in hip since late last week. Think the trigger was including pistol squats. Can't really reliably do squat patterns these days (or for a few years, really!). Think it's all related. Probably some kind of FAI thing. I get like a weird hip click if I do a deep leg press, or go deep on a BSS, etc. Able to work around it with nordics and lunge variations, but a bit annoying.

Wonder if I should include some plyos. Just CBA to schedule and do them properly.

45
14-04-26

Run
- w/u
- 3 x (10' on / 2' off) [4:26 average]
- c/d

11.02k, 55:45

Lift - OL Calf, Reverse Nordic, Curls, Laterals

Notes

Did the OL Calfs from the floor instead of off a ledge. +52.5kg still fairly light there (can get about 6-8 reps). Need to wear my weighted vest + dip belt + hold a weight for off the floor to be heavy enough, I guess.

Solid workout, kept it to ~MP. Still feeling a bit of muscle fatigue, but HR etc were good (high 150s average, and I did rest as jogs instead of walks, so not as much of a recovery there).

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