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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: The best BASKETBALL-SPECIFIC exercises?
« on: April 20, 2011, 05:46:53 pm »
Sorry for my 2 cents. I'm no expert, just a ball player. What do I know  :huh:  good luck with everything tho.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: The best BASKETBALL-SPECIFIC exercises?
« on: April 20, 2011, 05:24:03 pm »
Quote from: Ineedtodunk on April 20, 2011, 04:17:18 pm
Quote from: Girljordan on April 20, 2011, 12:24:52 pm
This arguement is soo... Stupid!! I don't know a lot about lifting weights but I do know basketball. It all depends on the match up and skill level.  If someones not basketball smart and doesnt know how to use there strength on the court it's not going to do them any good, and even if the do know how to use there strength, and the other persons more skilled and has a higher basketball iq, then they find ways to stop the stronger person. I'm 6'0" my husbands the same height, same reach. I weight 130lbs on a good day, he weights 222lbs and I murder him in basketball. He backs me down every time, but I must say my lower body strength helps in when he's  backing me down. He's stronger, way bigger, but I'm just more skilled, and jump higher. When he backs me down. I sometimes let him go by me just to block his shot, I can't stop him from backing me down but being that I'm a ball player and he's just a big man who plays ball. I have the advantage! He's stronger, I'm more skilled, but if I was as strong as him with the skills I have, I'd really be a beast. So the moral of the story is Kevin derant would whip shaq in a game of 1 on 1.  but if you gave derant shaq's strength he'd be like lebron, but I'd bet lebron would be Kevin because he's stronger and he's skilled. So if your skilled already that strength is only going to turn you into more of a beast. In a match up situation like skill over strength it sometimes come down to who gets the most touches. If neither one of you can stop the other when playing defense, then who ever can keep the ball in there hand the most wins. SIMPLE MATHMATICAL PROGRESSION  

I know that's not the question you asked, just getting stronger period using bench press, ohp, squats, ... Etc  then go out and do basketball exercises like rim touches and passes with the weight/medicine ball. Defensive slides with resistance band. Stuff like that, just come up with your own exercises and use weights and resistance when doing them, using basketball movements.
MAKE SENSE TO ME  

It's Kevin Durant, and giving him Lebron's strength will not make him up to par with Lebron, he will need the mass too.  Regardless, the point you're trying to make about you and your husband , and Lebron/Durant/Shaq is very poor.
And yes, you are completely missing the point of the two people who were productively arguing and the point of my topic in general.


How is my point very poor??
And what was the point of the argument, because this is what I read.
"Obviously for lower body, squatting is most essential.

But for Upper body I've been doing Bench Press and Pull Ups to target my chest/back/arms.  Are there other exercises you guys know that can replace Bench pressing or Pull Ups that will carryover to basketball better"
I'm just asking, are there better basketball carryover exercises
And my answer was:
I know that's not the question you asked, just getting stronger period using bench press, ohp, squats, ... Etc  then go out and do basketball exercises like rim touches and passes with the weight/medicine ball. Defensive slides with resistance band. Stuff like that, just come up with your own exercises and use weights and resistance when doing them, using basketball movements.
MAKE SENSE TO ME kinda like what Joe Joe said.  
[/quote]

Then JC said:
that you both agree that mass and strength is different and that mass is what helps a man bang in the post not strength
So I said
my husband is a lot bigger and much stronger then me and even though he tries to back me down, and man handle me in the post using his larger body and strength, he still can't beat me in basketball, but that if I had his strength and not his mass I'd really be a monster on the court, which was making a point to JC's argument


 

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: The best BASKETBALL-SPECIFIC exercises?
« on: April 20, 2011, 12:24:52 pm »
This arguement is soo... Stupid!! I don't know a lot about lifting weights but I do know basketball. It all depends on the match up and skill level.  If someones not basketball smart and doesnt know how to use there strength on the court it's not going to do them any good, and even if the do know how to use there strength, and the other persons more skilled and has a higher basketball iq, then they find ways to stop the stronger person. I'm 6'0" my husbands the same height, same reach. I weight 130lbs on a good day, he weights 222lbs and I murder him in basketball. He backs me down every time, but I must say my lower body strength helps in when he's  backing me down. He's stronger, way bigger, but I'm just more skilled, and jump higher. When he backs me down. I sometimes let him go by me just to block his shot, I can't stop him from backing me down but being that I'm a ball player and he's just a big man who plays ball. I have the advantage! He's stronger, I'm more skilled, but if I was as strong as him with the skills I have, I'd really be a beast. So the moral of the story is Kevin derant would whip shaq in a game of 1 on 1.  but if you gave derant shaq's strength he'd be like lebron, but I'd bet lebron would be Kevin because he's stronger and he's skilled. So if your skilled already that strength is only going to turn you into more of a beast. In a match up situation like skill over strength it sometimes come down to who gets the most touches. If neither one of you can stop the other when playing defense, then who ever can keep the ball in there hand the most wins. SIMPLE MATHMATICAL PROGRESSION  

I know that's not the question you asked, just getting stronger period using bench press, ohp, squats, ... Etc  then go out and do basketball exercises like rim touches and passes with the weight/medicine ball. Defensive slides with resistance band. Stuff like that, just come up with your own exercises and use weights and resistance when doing them, using basketball movements.
MAKE SENSE TO ME 

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: THE DREAM JOURNAL
« on: April 18, 2011, 09:54:14 am »
Had a bream the other night I was at the court, went up for a dunk attempt no expecting to even get close to a dunk, but went up to dunk and dunked it, but my legs felt heavy, and the goal I dunked on was at the bottom of a hill, so I didn't know if it was shorter then the other goals or if it looked lower because of the hill. Moral of the story is my dunking ability is an illusion.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: April 11, 2011, 09:56:10 am »
Congrats on your dunk!

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: Overtrained, overreached, or neither???
« on: April 07, 2011, 08:21:17 pm »
Thanks. I would think you know what your talking about. Now I'm pissed that I wasted days not training because I thought I was over training and the last day of my 5 days of lifting I got a pr on my half squats at 220lbs.  :pissed:.

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Overtrained, overreached, or neither???
« on: April 07, 2011, 02:26:47 pm »
For a few weeks I saw a great decrease in my performance, also felt burned out, which I kinda did on purpose the last five days of my 6 month workout. I know lifting a lot puts a lot of stress on the cns and recovering from overtraining can take weeks, months and even year,  and that it takes weeks to overtrain. so I'm not asking, what is over training I did my research on that. I'm asking does it appear that I overtrained overreached or neither? Here my workouts that I did after reaching my pb jumping height. On my rest days I sometimes play basketball, and I play hard, and also do rim touches at max effort, sometimes. So if I did overtrain what should I do as far as recovery,or just continue to rest as I am

Workouts from my journal: march 13 - today


March 13
Squats:
120lbs 3sets 8reps
170lbs 2sets 8reps
220lbs  2set 8reps
230lbs 1set 5reps
Power cleans:
60lbs
Jump squats:
60lbs 1set 8reps
80lbs 1set 8reps
         1set 10reps

March14
Upperbody/core today:  
15lbs curls 3set 8reps each arm
15lbs overhead 3sets 8reps each arm
25lbs curl 3sets 8reps
25lbs pulls 3sets 8reps
Light legs:
Explosive squats: 60lbs 2sets 8reps
lunges:  45lbs 1set 30reps

March 15
Core/lower body today:

Squats:
100lbs 3sets 8reps
170lbs 3set 8-8-10reps
240lbs 2sets 8-10
250lbs 2sets 5-5

Lunges: 1set 30reps
Calf raises: 100sl each 100 dbl
Tuck jumps
Depth jumps
Core

March16
Girl Pushups 3sets 8-8-8 last set10
Core:
Planks
scissors
Leg raises

Hill sprints

March 17
 Squats/power cleans today:

Squats:
120lbs 8-8-8
140lbs 8-8-8
170lbs 8-8-8
220lbs 8
240lbs 8

Deadlift: 70lbs 8-8
Power cleans:60lbs
                     70lbs
Squat jumps: 45lb weights
Sleg 8-8
Dleg: 8-8            
Leap ups: 10-10.   45lbs weights
1set 8reps 70lbs
Calf raises:100 sl
                 100 dl

March18
Girl Pushups 3sets 8-8-8 last set10
25lbs curls each arm 8reps

March 19
Dunk attempts

March 20
Rest

March 21
Half:
120lbs
170lbs
200lbs

Quarter:
220lbs
240lbs
250lbs

Push ups: 8-8-8

March 22
Rest

Last week of my 6 months truing it's 5 days of lifting then rest for a week

DAY 1:
Body Weight: 126lbs

full body workout

Warm up: jumprope
Power cleans: (will try to up weight)
60lbs 8-8
70lbs 3
80lbs  0
Dead lifts:
70lbs 8-8
arm raises
Pin 7 Explosive squats:
120lbs 5-5-5
140lbs 5
170lbs 5-5
Pin 7 heavy squats: as many as I can/ 2sets
190lbs

DAY 2:

hang snatches:
30lbs 8-8
50lbs 8
60lbs 5
Bench Press
60lbs
70lbs
80lbs
Barbell Row
50lbs 8-8-8
70lbs 8-8-8

Ohp:
30lbs 8
50lbs 5
60lbs 2

DAY 3

BODY WEIGHT: 130lbs


Pin 7 Explosive squats:

140lbs 8-9
170lbs 8-8

Pin 7 heavy squats:

200lbs 2

quarter squats

220lbs 7 ( think I could've got it half)

250lbs 2
glute bridge

225lbs

DAY 4: full body/core (I hate core exercises)

hang snatches:
60lbs 5-1

Deadlift:
70lbs 8-8
60lbs 8 explosive
60lbs Single leg 5-5 each leg

Barbell Row:
70lbs 8-8-8

OHP:
50lbs 5-5
60lbs 5-1

Core:
Hanging knee raises
Scissors

DAY 5:

BODY WEIGHT: 130lbs

Pin 5 explosive squat:
120lbs 11x

Pin 6 Explosive squats:
120lbs 8
170lbs 3-3

Pin 7 heavy squats:
220lbs

quarter squats:
240lbs

glute bridge

225lbs

March 28
Upperbody

               ( on my rest day I may play ball and I play hard or do rim grabs which involves trying to jump at max effort sometimes)

March 29
Rest!!!!

March 30
Rest!!!

March 31
Rest!!!

April 1
Rest!!

April 2
Rest!!! Pool can't swim so just walked around

April 3
2 mile walk

April 4
Squats: deep squats
115lbs 5x
135lbs 5x
155lbs 1x failed on 2 try

Standing leg press: half squat
180lbs 2x

Legs were pretty weak after this.
 
April 5
Rest!!!

April 6
Light upper body
Legs are still sore from squatting monday.

April 7
Rest!!!






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Basketball / Re: Blake Griffin needs his own thread - This guy is a freak
« on: April 05, 2011, 02:53:14 pm »
Why did he do that ???

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Basketball / Re: jonsey dunk thread - like the t-dub thread, kinda.
« on: April 05, 2011, 02:45:58 pm »
Wow  :o

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: The PR's/PB's, videos, pictures, and daily achievements thread
« on: March 27, 2011, 07:13:39 pm »
 :personal-record: 220lbs 3x pin 7

Step daughter got it off pin 7 and never squats. Lost $40  :pissed: but she's only 5'5" so she actually just barely bent her knees

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Basketball / Re: women dunkers girl dunkers female dunkers jumpers
« on: March 15, 2011, 10:59:53 am »
I'll have a video in here soon!!!

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Best examples of "squat made" great vertical jumpers
« on: March 15, 2011, 10:49:45 am »

Great quote.


"i know one thing that is for certain, it is impossible to those who think it is impossible."


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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Could changing the type of squat be more effective for taller athletes?
« on: March 08, 2011, 07:36:04 pm »
Thanks, the men around here just told me to stop thinking. Lol

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Could changing the type of squat be more effective for taller athletes?
« on: March 08, 2011, 02:06:52 pm »
Quote from: vag on March 08, 2011, 01:31:59 pm
Quote from: Girljordan on March 08, 2011, 01:22:59 pm
I took psychology in college. I cant help it im a thinker by nature. At least you guys try to be as nice as possible, I'm sure I get on your nerves, but once I get interested in something, I just want to know everything. I even ask questions about stuff I already know, just to hear others opinion, but now that I know it drives raptor crazy! Jk Thanks anyway  

Read this Kelly Baggett's article , very helpful/relevant:

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/vjmistakes.html


Quoting one specific type ( you , me , lbss , raptor and many other people ) :

Quote
The Overanalyzer:
Make sense to me, but I want to overanalyze what you just wrote.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Re: Could changing the type of squat be more effective for taller athletes?
« on: March 08, 2011, 01:22:59 pm »
I took psychology in college. I cant help it im a thinker by nature. At least you guys try to be as nice as possible, I'm sure I get on your nerves, but once I get interested in something, I just want to know everything. I even ask questions about stuff I already know, just to hear others opinion, but now that I know it drives raptor crazy! Jk Thanks anyway   

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