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Program Review / Re: Jump Manual
« on: December 18, 2010, 02:04:35 pm »
Adarq - Never seen this video...

Also...

His video is dated: May 06, 2010

My first video on this was: October 07, 2008

My second video more about 1 foot jumping was: August 11, 2009

My videos on the subject were posted considerable before this one came out...

Regardless, I have seen this video, and I think we teach it our own way anyways.


I appreciate your apology.


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Program Review / Re: Jump Manual
« on: December 16, 2010, 09:28:08 am »
LanceSTS said:

" [Jacob] 3. has nothing to do with track and field on any significant level, but has his own method of teaching the penultimate step (if you watch the video and have a brain you can see when he is not looking at his notes that he has no idea what he is talking about).   :

1. I was a jumper in high school and recruited to college and competed at state, and conference levels.

More importantly...

2. I have trained Olympic high jumpers, long, and triple jumpers including the Nation record holder of India for High Jump and Triple Jump. I also trained their coaching staff per invitation at Sports Authority of India.  The picture... that you said I "shopped" is me after training the Olympic and Powerlifting teams on how to use chains and bands as well as setting up a training to maximize explosive ability.  This was all in person and I have testimonials and pictures with me training and teaching their Olympic development staff.



3. Dude.. to just come out and say I "plagiarized" is pretty rough... could you show me the video you think I used so I could see where you are coming from?

Again I'm just trying to represent myself here...


Adarq -

"he is not looking at his notes"  -   ?????

I've taught this very technique in person 1000 times to countless athletes in several sports... I don't need notes for it... I would if I didn't know it off the top of my head.

Anyways, I'm not trying to start a fight, but I just want to be represented fairly bro.


I'm honestly just baffled at how certain "LanceSTS" that I have even seen Adam's video... Please link me, I tried to find it but can't.

I GUARANTEE I can trace back me teaching this concept before mine or Links video EVER came out.  It was in the original Jump Manual, and I taught it before I even put my program online.

Adam L.  I'm sure did not plagiarize me (although I haven't seen all his stuff on this I don't think) and he's a cool fella ... but SEVERAL people have AND I have later been accused of copying my own copycats!  Jumping for for basketball, and track is something I have been doing since highschool, in 1998.

I already see people posting material that is in my jumping form ebook... did they come up with it separately from me?  Not sure... all I now is several bits of it I have never seen ANYWHERE else - and now bits are starting to pop up.

In the end I don't fret it... we all build upon the body of knowledge and are "standing on the shoulders of giants" so to speak.  When people copy my stuff it's a compliment, and I would appreciate a shout out... but there are at least 2 programs out there that are amazingly similar to mine and came out later.  And dozens of articles I have written I have seen verbatim or paraphrased by others.

Think of how Louie, or Verk. must feel.

I'm just sayin...



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Program Review / Re: Jump Manual
« on: December 16, 2010, 08:56:19 am »
I'm trying to find A Link's video anyways to check it out... I want to see this hand clapping!

Link me?

Also Raptor thanks for the kind words man.

I don't know you but I think I follow your channel on youtube, and I've seen you on other forums.

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Program Review / Re: Jump Manual
« on: December 16, 2010, 08:51:49 am »
Adarq... just read more...

I don't recollect ever seeing Adam's video of him "clapping" but I will tell you that EVERY track and field coach I have ever worked with uses clapping to train the cadence of the approach.

When I crated my program I had NEVER heard of Adam Linkenauger.  When I put it online I don't think Vert Freak was even out...  In fact I didn't know much about the online world at all.
 

I was also accused of ripping off some other VJ program that was released about a full year after mine.

If anyone deserves credit it would be my high school track and College track coachs, whose names I can't even remember (he was fired mid season... Coach Barnes and Coach Phelps...  But since those days (where I wasn't even that good) I have come up with a ton of my own information...

Some ideas I came up with, I even realized down the line that someone else thought of the same thing, and called it a different name, and in those cases I usually go back and say.. this is what I've called it.. but it's well known as ___ .

Again, I'm not taking anything away from Adam L., he's a friend of mine, and we communicate every now and then.

Also, as for the 50inchvertical site... it's some affiliates.  If these guys are spamming let me know I can report them and have them warned.  It's not good for me.  Jack W. probably gets the same thing sometimes.

I have 4 people posing as me on Facebook and Twitter... and I'm working on getting them shut down.  One dude even has some weird pic (not me) and claims it's me.. lol.

Listen, I'm not trying to be a hater here... I respect this site, and I respect that Adarq and others are doing some innovative stuff, not to mention serious dedication and work ethic...  props for that.

I'd just prefer to be represented fair.

If you disagree with my vids, or think I got something wrong, I'd love to know about it... I can always learn something. 

If we disagree, oh well, happens all the time.

There are some points of training that I think I am completely alone on... oh well... it makes sense to me, and until it doesn't make sense or stops working - I'lll stick to it.... but I'm open.

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Program Review / Re: Jump Manual
« on: December 16, 2010, 08:24:47 am »
Thought I'd stick my head in here... we'll see if it remains attached to my neck.

Just thought I'd clarify... since we're talking about me.

1. Adarq - That photo ofme is not shopped but that one of the nicest comments I've received.

2. Jack - Thanks for your kind words even if we disagree on  some points I appreciate the your openness, you've always been fair to me.  I really appreciate you defending me man... really.


3. I'm constantly trying to get affiliates not to do crazy stuff.  It's hard to keep it under raps but if there is someone who is particularly annoying let me know, I can have the "authorities" contact them or even cut them off.  I don't like the spam, it does me no good... sure maybe a couple sales, but it much worse for reputation etc... not a fan.

4. Adam L. Is awesome, and a good friend of mine.  But as far as I know I posted videos about form before anyone I know did.  I learned that stuff in high school and college track and field.  Not taking away from Adam, his stuff is great, and he is a very experienced high jumper.. but I definitely didn't steal it form him. 

Regardless as jack is mentioning we all learned stuff from someone... many of the jumping form concepts I have, I came up with alone, but many others were taught to me by someone along the way.

Penultimate step for basketball or any sport is different animal then track and field... I was a jumper in high school and college.  That's another conversation though.

On a last thought... we do one one one and group coaching sessions multiple times a week for personal programming.  It's a huge part of our system... the one one one interaction.

While we might disagree on some issues I think we can understand what those points are... and if I'm wrong... I hope to have the guts to admit it... sure better then persevering in error.

In the end I'm just a guy like you guys... I live training, am obsessed with it, and love making my living sharing it.

I come up with a lot (IMHO ;) of my own stuff, and I also like to read and learn from everyone else in the industry...

If  anyone is interested I have a free ebook about jumping form, a lot of my own ideas, and now I'm starting to see them come out in other places.. I really don't care though.. unless I'm accused of stealing what is my original work (which has also happened).





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