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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: training rhymes
« on: April 24, 2013, 05:06:16 am »
Hyperdunk is good at getting some rhymes
Too bad for his other forumistic crimes

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 Those look good Raptor, and its not how far out in front your knees go, rather where the weight is centered.  If you look at a really good squat, the weight of the lifter and the load is centered further away from the knee.  Thats where the knee stress really come into play, when the center of mass goes forward with the knees. 

 What could you high bar squat prior to your low bar?  Those looked easy, definitely not near maximal.

Yeah I know what you mean... these O-lift shoes help me not get that center of mass too forward. If I wouldn't have the o-lift shoes I would've continued to low bar squat because my knees wouldn't be happy with a center of mass forward high bar squat (like in the past). The only way I could avoid that with a regular shoe (and not elevating the heels on plates etc) would be to REALLY widen the stance.

As for the max high bar squat... I have no idea. Back in the day I had a "body-crushing" max attempt of 130 kg and then I switched to low bar, I THINK. I'm not sure. Right now my high bar 1RM is probably ~145 kg but I don't want to try it.

This 130 I lifted here ... I have no idea why it looks so easy... it was VERY difficult, not necessarily the rep itself but thinking about repeating that rep was difficult to imagine.

Probably because I'm not used to do high TUT, grinding reps. Maybe I should play around with some tempo variance work in the near future.

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By the way - I think I'll milk this high bar 3x5 I'm doing right now and once I get stuck (after I reset by 10% and try again) I'll probably switch back to low bar and see if it improved after this high bar squat stint.

If I could front squat I'd definitely do low bar back squat + front squat and call it a day.

just dont keep with the higher bar position if it messes with your knees, otherwise its fine.  Nothing was drastically wrong with your squat the way you were, so youre not going to get a magic carryover from a higher bar position if thats what youre expecting. 

But it's MUCH MORE difficult in this high bar way I'm doing it right now. So I guess that's my quads screaming "we're so WEAK". Sure, I probably go much lower now too, and with a narrower stance the total ROM is longer as well, so there are other differences than just the bar position.

You make the call about how much my knees go out in front:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0932wdPNjA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0932wdPNjA</a>

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By the way - I think I'll milk this high bar 3x5 I'm doing right now and once I get stuck (after I reset by 10% and try again) I'll probably switch back to low bar and see if it improved after this high bar squat stint.

If I could front squat I'd definitely do low bar back squat + front squat and call it a day.

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  I wasnt saying you are not training, my original point was you keep changing the focus, when your goals indicate a much more simple approach.  You could literally do two or three exercises for you lower body, but push the living FUCK out of those few, and do something like bounds and dunks, with a good diet and youd have a whole program that would get you on a linear path upwards rather than this circular one.

^that was what I meant about changing focus

This x 1023148324234

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  Why do you think that "if I try to not gain weight I will spin my wheels"?  Its bullshit, you MIGHT gain a little weight but you also might not, actively TRYING to gain weight is going to negatively affect your results if youre not already lean though.   You can make massive gains in relative strength while gaining very little to no weight if you 1.) eat enough protein, and not trash and 2.) train correctly

Tell that to steven-miller. He made getting stronger with minimal bodyweight increases look impossible.

At 1.82m and 87 kg, I'm OVERWEIGHT if anything. I swear I've been getting so many mixed messages in the last few years - some people were saying I need to eat MORE to get stronger, basically regardless of my current bodyweight, and some were like "you need to lose weight".

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Well yeah but after I bumped my weight up intentionally to ~87 kg (in order to increase my squat) I'm jumping lower now, even at a higher squat to bodyweight ratio (had 160 kg low bar squat at ~85 or so in the past).

And I'm not talking about the one leg jump specifically but two leg jumps as well.

I guess being this heavy doesn't help jumping at all, even if you increase your squat. But then if I were NOT to try to gain weight AND strength then I'd be "spinning my wheels". Right.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: training rhymes
« on: April 23, 2013, 03:11:31 pm »
Trolling the forum and getting some negs
Ain't gonna make your calves into springs

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MRI = 200 euros and doesn't do anything for me.

Surgery = possibly getting too much anesthesic or getting infected and dying. Thanks but I'm not interested. I don't trust the doctors. I'd rather expect them to kill me and then say "Oh we're incompetent. D'ah well, you're free to sue us if you don't like it".

Pretty hard to sue people when you're dead.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: training rhymes
« on: April 23, 2013, 05:34:11 am »
Not bad ^^^

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Actually it's written in that program that it's for a high bar squat. That "calculator" had an excel (in the past) that you could download and in that excel it's writted "high bar squat". It usually correlates well for people in between 5'7-5'11 or so and for me it was pretty accurate for low bar squatting too since I can use more weight with the low bar but I'm also taller than that range (and pretty long boned).

The problem with the low bar squat is that the quads just don't grow (for me). When I do low bar squats I feel like my quads are pretty much isometrically contracted and all the actualy concentric work is done by the posterior chain. Who knows at what degree they're actually doing work?

But yeah, I've been doing low bar squats because of the knee issues, that's correct. You're also right about the very wide stance - not being able to get depth with a medium stance (and not having o-lifting shoes) - I had to stay wider to get deeper.

Maybe if I could've use a medium stance and got deep with the low bar squat then more correlation to jumping would've happened.

I don't get why you think I've hopped around programs when I in fact CONSISTENTLY low bar squatted for 2 years or so. Yeah the programming might've been different every now and then but keep in mind some people change it every 8 weeks or so so... what's the big deal?

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Thanks for the help by the way!

And don't act like I'm the "program hopper" because that's not the case. I've been consistently low bar squatting for the last 3 years or so and made that a priority and DID get it to almost 2x at 160 kg @ ~86 kg bodyweight so...

But it turns out the low bar squat doesn't have too much of a correspondence into athleticism, a low bar squat switch that I did, by the way, after your advice.

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They aren't?! FUCK!

Man why did you have to bring that up?!

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / My current program
« on: April 22, 2013, 06:31:08 pm »
OK so I have decided it's time to shut up and start going with the basics again, since my high bar squat and quad strength suck SO much right now so I'm currently doing a 2 time per week 3x5 squat + 2x8 RDL + 3x20 calf raise GYM workout.

Now the thing is - I want to be doing reactive and track work the next day.

I work Monday and Thursday and that's when I do the gym work (at night). And then I have Tuesday and Friday as free days when I want to do track work.

The question is - how would you say my approach should be. I'd like to do plyo work mainly, and running/sprinting. I'd like to get lighter as well but reading through that tempo work in the LBSS thread... oh man... it makes running look like brain surgery.

To me running has always been just a natural event, that you don't really have to think about, it's a good reactive exercise and overall exercise for power and elasticity.

My real struggle is to find the right exercise selection for Tuesday and Friday and being an overanalyzer... that's a really, really difficult thing to do. I'd love to single leg bound but at my current bodyweight of ~88 kg I'm not sure it's such a good idea.

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Man this stuff looks extremely complicated... I don't get anything...

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