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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 16, 2014, 05:34:57 am »
15 January 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~89,5kg
Soreness : quads, hamstrings, calves fried, shoulders, lats
Injuries/aches :  none

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
3@80kg
1@100kg
-Hamstring good to go. Lowered volume because i have bball tomorrow.
I was aiming for 110kg but legs are still detrained, vmos and hamstrings started burning after the 80kg triple and 100kg was very hard so stopped there.

BENCH PRESS:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@50kg
5@60kg
5@65kg

BICEPS Z-BAR CURL:
10@22kg
10@27kg
10@32kg

TRICEPS CABLE PUSHDOWN:
10@20kg
10@25kg
10@30kg

LANCE CALVE RAISES ( DL concentric, slow SL eccentric ):
8 each leg@25kg
8 each leg@25kg
8 each leg@25kg

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 13, 2014, 02:38:57 pm »
13 January 2014

Bodyweight@session : 90kg
Soreness : quads, hamstrings, glutes, chest, shoulders
Injuries/aches :  none

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
10@20kg
-Wanted to do low-weight sets of 10 reps to speed up DOMS recovery but felt a sharp pain in right hamstring with empty bar so had to stop.

Substituted with:
SEATED HORIZONTAL LEG PRESS MACHINE:
15@200lbs
15@250lbs
15@300lbs
-That went much better, hamstring bugged a bit but nothing like the squats.

STANDING SHOULDERS DB LATERAL RAISES.
12@8kg each hand
12@8kg each hand
12@8kg each hand
-Nice, less challenging than what i expected.

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
8@150lbs
8@150lbs
8@150lbs
-Didn't get sore at all at back from row machine so thinking of substituting it, let's see if i get sore with this.

PAUSED STANDING CALVE RAISES MACHINE:
20@50kg
20@50kg
20@50kg
-10 kg lighter than where i was to ease back to them.

WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
20@80lbs
20@80lbs
20@80lbs
-25 lbs lighter than where i was to ease back to them.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 11, 2014, 11:04:27 am »
11 January 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~89kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
5@70kg
3@80kg
2@90kg
-Bar felt light on back even on 90kg but detrained legs failed me, VMOs hamstrings and abductors started burning after 70kg.

BENCH PRESS:
5@20kg
5@30kg
5@40kg
5@50kg
5@60kg

STANDING OVERHEAD PRESS:
5@20kg
5@25kg
5@30kg
5@35kg
5@40kg

SEATED CHEST SUPPORTED ROW MACHINE:
5@30kg
5@40kg
5@50kg
5@60kg
5@70kg

Here we go again. It was supposed to be a 10 days break but flu and work made them 20. FML. On the good side, i didn't feel that weak, feels like i'll be back to were i was pretty quick. Will probably do this 5x5 thing to get back at it for next week ( 3 sessions ), then get back to the 5/3/1. I also lost 2,5 kg but holidays+flu makes the loss evaluation totally fuzzy.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 06, 2014, 06:54:27 pm »
Vag, can you palm the ball with both hands?  Obviously, you L-R-L dunk is better than your L-R-R dunking but is your L-R-L maximum vertical touch higher than your L-R-R maximum vertical touch?   I probably should take your route and suck it up and learn to dunk with my left hand but I can precariously palm the ball only in might right hand and I've gotten pretty coordinated at keeping it in that hand!   Do you bring it up with both and switch to left?

Yes i can palm the ball the same with both hands. When i began changing it, highest touch was the same for LR-L and LR-R too. Dunk/highest touch sessions were mixed, like 50-50 LR-L LR-R. Session by session i started using more and more left, and after a couple of months or less it was pure left. Have not tried right ever since. That didn't happen deliberately, the LR-L efficiency naturally dominated.
I have it palmed before the runup but supporting it with the other hand during all runup and plant, i seem to release the right hand when starting to rise.

2900
^He said his jump did NOT go up, maybe 1'' or so. But yeah, i am with arnoud here, keeping it simple will work. And what you do already looks good. If you repeat that lower body lifting more than once a week it would be great but you said you can't? Don't worry about the vert gains, they are never linear or predictable, they will appear. Sometimes they appear overnight, they go, they come back, 2 months is a too narrow time window to track and evaluate vert progress. What to do? Nothing. Keep getting stronger in the weightroom, keep jumping maximally often and everything will fall in place.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 06, 2014, 12:20:18 pm »
Also, FWIW and from my n=1, it is much easier to change your dunking hand than your plant. It is weird in the beginning but you adapt to it pretty fast ( i am talking weeks, not even months ). At least that is how it worked for me. I am still 100% right handed except from dunking, and LR-L is 100 times better than my previous LR-R. I did play around with plants too but there was no way to get the RL down right, it always feels awkward and has me jumping 2-3 inches lower. To be fair also, at my all time peak my plant was more like a jump stop than a true LR, but still, if last step before that was with L, it wouldn't work again. Agree once again with toddday, play around with all plants, bring them all up.

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 :welcome:
I am not Lance and unfortunately he is not around the forum lately, we all hope he comes back though.
So you have been lifting for 2 months, 1 day per week, jumping 2 other days per week? What was your squat max when you started if it is 100kg now? Those 3 sets of heavier squats that you do, how many reps each? At what depth? At what weight did you start and what weight are you using now? What about the explosive ones?
Also how do you measure your max jump? Is it from random jumps at a basketball day or is it a jumping dedicated session? What jump are you measuring? SVJ, single leg running jump, double leg running jump? What were your initial measurements in each of them?
Answer all those, they would give us a clearer/detailed profile so we can give you some advice!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: January 05, 2014, 08:44:09 am »
Indeed, Amare's  standing reach is 9'0,5'', so 10' for him looks like 9' for us ~8' reachers. Toddday's reserve argument is still valid of course. Amare's draft measurements are 32'' SVJ / 35,5'' RVJ. He can touch 11' with 24'' of leap, which is only 75% of his SVJ. If his numbers were lower, he would have a harder time dunking ( no shit Sherlock! ).
Forget Amare and anyone else, focus on yourself. You have a 8'3'' reach, you need 21'' to touch rim, you can palm the ball easily so you need 28-30'' to dunk. Get to 38-40'' of vert, have 10'' of reserve between barely dunking and max vert, enjoy in-game dunk-fest!
:lololol:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 02, 2014, 03:06:06 am »
Was scheduled to restart today but I am down with a bad flu, high fever, coughing etc, FML!!!  :ffffffuuuuuu:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 31, 2013, 09:04:19 am »
Work was hectic till Christmas Eve's night, couldn't train. After that I am already one week off now, resting body and mind. Not eating that good, drinking too much but oh, well!

Updated wave 3 results of 5/3/1 , see bottom of this post:  5/3/1 beginner template

Great success at this 3d wave despite not unloading, big PRs and improvements in all lifts. 5/3/1 has been working very well for me. I think i will continue as planned and do a couple more  waves, then start a cut and switch to Lance's 3-set-progress thing.

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Great post, LBSS! I can very much relate to it, not that it matters, just saying.

Challenge yourself in some way so that failure is not inevitable (that makes you delusional) but definitely possible.... really one of the hardest things for people to do.

gold!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 21, 2013, 10:25:57 am »
21 December 2013

Bodyweight@session : ~91,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

5/3/1 beginner template
Wave 3 :: Week 3 :: Day 2

ROMANIAN DEADLIFT ( 5/3/1 ):
5@82,5kg
3@92,5kg
7@102,5kg , heaviest load i have ever done for reps so obviously 7RM :personal-record:
-However predicted 1RM a bit lower than last week's. Still 2nd best ever.

STANDING OVERHEAD PRESS ( 5/3/1 ):
5@37,5kg
3@42,5kg
5@47,5kg , heaviest load i have ever done for reps here too, so obviously 5RM :personal-record:
-Predicted 1RM a bit lower than last week's but still 2nd best ever here too.

BARBELL LUNGES:
8 each leg@40kg ( +20kg )
8 each leg@45kg ( +15kg )
8 each leg@50kg ( +10kg )
-As expected, getting the groove of the movement allows huge initial gains.

BICEPS EZ BAR CURL:
12@34,5kg
12@34,5kg
12@34,5kg
-Damn hard.

TRICEPS CABLE PUSHDOWN:
12@35kg
12@35kg
12@35kg
-Unexpected easy, could have done 37,5.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: December 20, 2013, 09:36:14 am »
^Easy, change postition to PF/C, you'll be doing SVJs and dropsteps all day long at both ends of the court. As for DLRVJs, i guess you have to be able to accelerate/gather/jump naturally off the dribble to do it at drives, like Westbrook, VC etc. I wouldn't know though, i have not been able to do it without travelling even when practicing for it alone. The only way i have done DLRVJs in real game situations was not off the dribble, but cutting: Recieve the pass while running (which is your runup ), power dribble ( which is your penultimate step ), jump.
Just 2c, i bet ChrisM has a lot more to offer here ;)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 20, 2013, 06:59:30 am »
@raptor: Thanks! Dunno about the 'nature' of the gains. I think it's true strength, because even after the 3x8 phase the volume was not so low as you think, i was doing 3x5 submax on a different day which also featured 3x12 deep leg press, recently substituted by supramax half squats. Thighs are bigger than ever too currently ( 67cm / 26 1/2'' ).

@gukl: I have them for a bit more than 1 year. Very happy with them, although it is the first o-lift pair i ever bought so nothing to compare to. Compared to normal sneakers it is a different world as expected. Did you by the Power Perfect IIs that i own or the Powerlift Trainers? Hope the former, because the latter looks alike but is a different ( worse ) shoe. Relevant discussion here : http://www.adarq.org/progress-journals-experimental-routines/vag%27s-journal-age-vs-vertical/msg77722/#msg77722

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: December 19, 2013, 06:38:10 am »
^Yup, also don't forget i was squatting 3x8 twice a week for 2 months straight before switching to 5/3/1.

In other news, Tuesdays heaviest full squat set ever also had the best form ever, i was never able to keep the load midfoot, especially on a max out set like this.



:wowthatwasnutswtf:

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