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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« on: May 23, 2013, 02:30:25 am »
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: May 22, 2013, 05:35:57 pm »<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwzXjry6s6g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwzXjry6s6g</a>
If it's not a suicide grip it... it just DOESN'T WORK!
Want proof? Watch that video, he fails terribly.
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Article & Video Discussion / Re: SVJ of Turkish basketball players
« on: May 22, 2013, 06:34:29 am »
Yeah I remember that sprinter vs o-lifter VJ thing
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Nature, Wilderness, Hiking, Travel, and Misc Outdoorsy stuff / Re: Random landscape of the day
« on: May 22, 2013, 05:32:15 am »
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Comparison between a low bar 130 kg squat and a high bar 130 kg squat
« on: May 21, 2013, 04:46:37 pm »
Definitely. Wouldn't cycling between the low bar and the high bar squat have SOME benefits though? For one, less boredom, secondly, different loading on the muscles and subjecting them to different stimuli etc and maybe braking out of a plateau?
Granted some time will be lost just improving the movement efficiency on the new lift, even if the differences aren't so big (it's still a squat).
In the high bar squat you can also use less weight and stay more vertical which both should be better for back health, right?
Granted some time will be lost just improving the movement efficiency on the new lift, even if the differences aren't so big (it's still a squat).
In the high bar squat you can also use less weight and stay more vertical which both should be better for back health, right?
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Comparison between a low bar 130 kg squat and a high bar 130 kg squat
« on: May 21, 2013, 03:58:18 pm »
I wonder how the dynamics of the movement change doing the low bar squats in the OL shoes? Any ideas?
Also, remember - I SUCK at half squatting, it's probably the most overloading and hard exercise I can do... the overload at the knee and quad is tremendous.
So if you combine the suckiness of the half squats, the lack of ability to decelerate and stop and the high bar squat difficulty... you pretty much and up with a bad quad strength thing.
Also, remember - I SUCK at half squatting, it's probably the most overloading and hard exercise I can do... the overload at the knee and quad is tremendous.
So if you combine the suckiness of the half squats, the lack of ability to decelerate and stop and the high bar squat difficulty... you pretty much and up with a bad quad strength thing.
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Nature, Wilderness, Hiking, Travel, and Misc Outdoorsy stuff / Re: Random landscape of the day
« on: May 21, 2013, 02:51:56 pm »
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Comparison between a low bar 130 kg squat and a high bar 130 kg squat
« on: May 21, 2013, 02:49:54 pm »
Well yeah, it could be that I suck in the posterior chain and therefore the quads get overloaded and I think I have weak quads.
It's just that the high bar squat is SO much harder than the low bar squat that ... it's gotta be the quads, right? Yes different levers etc, but...
I can hip thrust 110 kg x 8 reps pretty well (I probably can do 120x8) so it can't be the glutes, right? I can leg curl the whole machine weight, so it can't be the hamstrings right? I can deadlift 400 lbs with bad form (still a pretty strong back, right?) and I can deadlift 330-352 lbs with good form.
But when it comes to squatting, the more the quads play a role, the less weight I can use. I'm not sure if I can high bar squat 140 kg. I assume I can but I never tried. So considering all these things... it's gotta be the quads.
When I do low bar squats I feel like my quads are pretty much isometrically keeping me from collapsing forward, but not doing actual concentric work in the squat itself. That's the feeling I have. In the high bar squat I feel them actually working concentrically.
I don't know, this his how I feel.
PS. I can only do really good pistol squats on my left leg. The right leg has NO chance of getting beyond parallel, I'd fall backward or my knee would pop-out or something.
It's just that the high bar squat is SO much harder than the low bar squat that ... it's gotta be the quads, right? Yes different levers etc, but...
I can hip thrust 110 kg x 8 reps pretty well (I probably can do 120x8) so it can't be the glutes, right? I can leg curl the whole machine weight, so it can't be the hamstrings right? I can deadlift 400 lbs with bad form (still a pretty strong back, right?) and I can deadlift 330-352 lbs with good form.
But when it comes to squatting, the more the quads play a role, the less weight I can use. I'm not sure if I can high bar squat 140 kg. I assume I can but I never tried. So considering all these things... it's gotta be the quads.
When I do low bar squats I feel like my quads are pretty much isometrically keeping me from collapsing forward, but not doing actual concentric work in the squat itself. That's the feeling I have. In the high bar squat I feel them actually working concentrically.
I don't know, this his how I feel.
PS. I can only do really good pistol squats on my left leg. The right leg has NO chance of getting beyond parallel, I'd fall backward or my knee would pop-out or something.
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Comparison between a low bar 130 kg squat and a high bar 130 kg squat
« on: May 21, 2013, 02:27:26 pm »
Well yeah, maybe I should say I feel like right now my quads are so weak and are SUCH a limiting factor that even if I'd increase my low bar squat, where that increase would be because of increased posterior chain strength, they would still be that bad that I wouldn't be able to use all that posterior chain strength unless from a standing VJ perspective.
I just can't block/stop a running attempt and transform all that horizontal movement into vertical movement... I collapse forward. I have the same issue with penetrating towards the rim - I know I can really get speed but I wouldn't be able to decelerate/control that penetration AT ALL so therefore I NEVER use a high amount of speed => I get shut down by any defender.
And it's the most frustrating thing in the world because you know you should be able to be faster and jump higher but your quads just don't allow you to.
That's the whole reasoning behind going high bar squatting right now. I feel my quads work a whole much more the way I squat now.
I just can't block/stop a running attempt and transform all that horizontal movement into vertical movement... I collapse forward. I have the same issue with penetrating towards the rim - I know I can really get speed but I wouldn't be able to decelerate/control that penetration AT ALL so therefore I NEVER use a high amount of speed => I get shut down by any defender.
And it's the most frustrating thing in the world because you know you should be able to be faster and jump higher but your quads just don't allow you to.
That's the whole reasoning behind going high bar squatting right now. I feel my quads work a whole much more the way I squat now.
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Comparison between a low bar 130 kg squat and a high bar 130 kg squat
« on: May 21, 2013, 02:15:45 pm »
I didn't say anything bad about the low bar squat in this thread, in fact I even said the high bar squat puts a ton more pressure on my knees. And yes, it's a comparison between a low bar running shoe squat and a high bar OL shoe squat... that was obvious.
I was just trying to see what everybody else thinks about the two movements in the way I perform them.
I was just trying to see what everybody else thinks about the two movements in the way I perform them.
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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Comparison between a low bar 130 kg squat and a high bar 130 kg squat
« on: May 21, 2013, 10:43:16 am »
The pressure that I feel on the knees using the high bar squat is basically in another league vs. low bar.