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I confirm raptor's story about water. It is not an urban legend, it is a medical fact. But in my ( and many other fellow drinkers ) experience, it works much better if you do it before sleeping, the next morning is probably too late. The problem is that when you really need to do it you are in a state that it is hard to remember it. Anyway, best combo so far for hangovers : tons of water before sleep, 1000mg paracetamol ( preferably effervescent tablet ) first thing in the morning.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 11, 2014, 05:01:24 pm »
11 February 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~90,5kg
Soreness : chest, hamstrings, glutes, calves
Injuries/aches :  none

PLYOS SESSION

BILATERAL LINE HOPS:
4x40 hops

MR TUCK JUMPS:
3x10

DUMBBELL SWINGS:
3x10@10kg

DUMBBELL JUMP SQUATS ( rhythmic ):
3x5@10kg each hand

SVJs:
3x3
-All 25''ish , ~1'' lower than last time.

This is very interesting. First time doing this session after a volume day and everything felt like shit. No pop, no bounce, nothing. I know it is not a big discovery, jumping performance should be expected to be better 24hrs after a squat 3RM than after 3xF RDL and lunges. But it looks like i did well to switch volume with intensity day, now i will have bball after the intensity day. Of course it could be just a bad day today. Let's see what happens later this week...



Edit : Just noticed, this is my journal's post #2000!!!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:   :personal-record:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 10, 2014, 04:16:27 pm »
10 February 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~91,75kg, oops!
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

3-sets-progress template
Workout #10 ( Week #4 )

ROMANIAN DEADLIFT:
6@95kg ( +5kg ) , ( -2 reps )
8@95kg ( +5kg )
6@95kg ( +5kg ) , ( -2 reps )
Total = 22 reps ( -2 reps )
-Lost sets 1 and 3 due to grip again. Legs very strong, 95kg still lightweight.

BB LUNGE:
8 each leg@50kg ( +5 kg )
8 each leg@50kg ( +5 kg )
8 each leg@50kg ( +5 kg )
Total = 24 reps.
-Very nice. 5kg jump and yet got all reps. Pchain responding damn well.

BENCH PRESS:
8@60kg
8@60kg ( +1 rep )
7@60kg ( +1 rep )
Total = 23 reps ( +2 reps )
-Still not at 3x8. Upping load next time, fuck the 1 missed rep.

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
7@180lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
7@180lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
7@180lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -1 rep )
Total = 21 reps ( -3 reps )
-Awesome. Third consecutive time adding the minimum 10lbs increment with minimum reps loss.

PAUSED STANDING CALVE RAISES MACHINE:
20@60kg
17@60kg
16@60kg
-Now way to progress those. I should either switch to 3x20 non paused or 3x15 paused.

WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
20@100lbs ( +5 lbs )
20@100lbs ( +5 lbs )
20@100lbs ( +5 lbs )
-Those were not meant to be done today but i forgot to do them on Saturday.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 10, 2014, 09:03:07 am »
Honestly, it sounds like Entropy is inching closer towards my original point number 1. He's sounding like more of a power lifter than an athlete (not that power lifters aren't athletes but you see what im saying?). And let's face it, not many guys can do both simultaneously.

This is 100% correct. We tend to move from a skinny basketball player to a fat powerlifter if you allow ourselves to think "squat strength is all that matters" and we only care about benchmarking that.

I agree with the general concept. With both of you. Totally.
What i can't understand is how entropy ( who is already in the middle of a 10-15kg cut) relates with that fat powerlifter mentality. Wanting to preserve a good percentage of your ( hard gained ) limit strength during a big cut is not a powerlifting obsession, it is basic training principle imho.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 10, 2014, 06:44:12 am »
I don't disagree with what all you guys said ( except from the limit strength&hypertrophy gains through sprints&jumps theory ). After all i did suggest some RFD work a few posts above, but how about a different prespective:
Entropy didn't do anything wrong, he is just always too hard on himself and deliberately ( although probably subconsiously ) presents his results in a failure-biased way. But the reality is different.
-His first cut was fucking awesome, he got to 10% with a clear six-pack, although he still says it was 13 or more.
-His bulk worked too, he destroyed his PRs in every lift, although he says he is weak.
-His overall vert gains is something like 10'' of SVJ in 2,5 years, although he says he hasn't gained much.
Ok, strength is now suffering from the cut while the cut itself has not progressed enough to present gains. It is temporary, as soon as he adapts and proceeds he is set for glory again. Lets not forget that even at that current supposedely worse state, his jumps are higher than ever and he hasn't even been practicing them.
I don't have the slightest concern about entropy's training, whatever he says at the rants, in the end he will do something that works.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 09, 2014, 08:37:58 am »
I am with raptor here. You don't even need to pleateau to switch to a more RFD oriented scheme. Neither wight/bf is such a restriction, it is not like you will be doing DJs and bounds 24/7. You don't have to change much things, you can add some elements. Maybe just one FA/RFD session weekly? Think of it as something like periodization, a transition phase. Keep strength as main focus but add an FA/RFD session with DJs, jump squats, speed squats, even a couple of heavy singles at the end to feed your everlasting strength loath, whatever. That said, nothing wrong with what you are doing now. Going to dunk often should take care most of the needed RFD training. But would DJs benefit you? Definitely yes imho.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 08, 2014, 01:28:18 pm »
8 February 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~90,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

3-sets-progress template
Workout #9 ( Week #3 )

PUSH PRESS:
5@55kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@55kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@55kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Love those. Last reps are taxing for back though. Are 5-rep sets too much for a power exercise like this?

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
8@85kg ( +2,5 kg )
7@85kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
7@85kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep )
Total = 22 reps. ( -2 reps )
-Very hard. Happy to get those reps at that load though. I can do more but i stop at the first squatmorning-ish rep.

CHINUPS:
9@BW+5kg ( +1 rep )
7@BW+5kg
6@BW+5kg
Total = 22 reps ( +1 rep )
-Nice. Just 1 rep shy of PR( 10 ) already .

LANCE CALVE RAISES ( DL concentric, slow SL eccentric ):
10 each leg@35kg ( +5 kg )
10 each leg@35kg ( +5 kg )
10 each leg@35kg ( +5 kg )
-Surprising easy. WTF, no burn at all.

WEIGHTED CRUNCHES MACHINE:
Forgot to do those, FFFFUUUUUUU.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 07, 2014, 12:06:08 pm »
I think i will swap days 1-2 of my gym training.
Now weekly plan ( regarding legs, i wont mention upper since it is irrelevant with this decision ) is:

Mon: cleans+squat 3RM+calves ( gym day 1 )
Tues : sprints and/or jumps and/or plyos
Wed : RDL+lunge ( gym day 2 )
Thirs: bball
Fri : rest
Sat : pushpress+squat 3x8+calves ( gym day 3 )
Sun : rest

Switching Monday with Wednesday will :
1) Bring an optimum days space between squats. Now it is 3RM 48 hrs after 3x8 and then 3x8 5 days after 3RM. Those gaps will become 4 and 3 days then correspondigly.
2) The 3RM squat one day before bball day will be much less taxing ( bball performance-wise ) than 3xF RDL + 3xF lunges. It may even potentiate me. Might change it with MSEM soon.

Calves stay at mondays though, again because i dont want to be pushing them 1 day before bball.

:lololol:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 06, 2014, 01:32:17 pm »
6 February 2014

Bodyweight@session : ???
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches :  none

1,5 hours full court basketball.
Endurance : Steady, much better than the original awfulness, still far away from fit.
Vert : Felt a bit improved in the game. Did one rim jump at the end ( ultra fatigued ), got 3'' above rim off 1 step and that rim looks 1'' higher too, so 28'' or maybe 29''. Shit height but improvement. Again, i can't really tell where i am if i don't do a dedicated ME jumps session but weather is not my ally.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 06, 2014, 01:25:12 pm »
Hm... fair point. You have to factor his long-ass legs though. If you use the mouse pointer as a marker for highest heels point, it looks like the 'air' he gets is about up to the middle of his thighs. For me, mid thigh is about 32'' and I am 6'1''/95'' in shoes ( he is 6'3''/98'' ), so 34'' seems realistic. Again, just rough estimations, i wouldn't bet on a height, it is too distorted as i already said, too dark too.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 06, 2014, 10:18:16 am »
Cam positioning makes it too distorted to be accurate. However it looks like a safe estimation to say you were getting 12'' above rim ( 4'' below wrist ).
Which is 11' touch / 34'' verts.

Now on those jumps at 0:00 , 0:08 , 0:13 , 0:17, if you said they are mid forearm ( 14'' above , 11'2'' touch, 36'' vert ) i wouldn't call you out, because that is most probably a correct claim!

Get better angle next time. If you can't elevate the cam, at least put it in a place where the cam-rim line is vertical to the entropy-rim line, and try to make those lines intersect at the rim ( which means dont get between the cam and the rim unless the cam is at rim level ).

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 05, 2014, 04:32:47 pm »
5 February 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~90kg
Soreness : chest, slightly
Injuries/aches :  none

3-sets-progress template
Workout #8 ( Week #3 )

ROMANIAN DEADLIFT:
8@90kg ( +5kg ) , ( -2 reps )
8@90kg ( +5kg )
8@90kg ( +5kg )
Total = 24 reps ( -2 reps )
-Great. Got 3x8 despite increasing 5(!)kg. Was easy too.

STANDING OVERHEAD PRESS:
10@40kg ( +1 rep ) , ties 10RM  :personal-record:
8@40kg ( +2 reps )
8@40kg ( +2 reps )
Total = 26 reps ( +5 reps )
-Awesome.

BB LUNGE:
8 each leg@45kg ( +2,5 kg )
8 each leg@45kg ( +2,5 kg )
8 each leg@45kg ( +2,5 kg )
Total = 24 reps.
-Easier than last time despite increase.

BICEPS Z-BAR CURL:
10@34,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@34,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@34,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
Total = 30 reps
-Great, got all reps despite increase.

TRICEPS CABLE PUSHDOWN:
10@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
10@35kg ( +2,5 kg )
Total = 30 reps.
-Great, got all reps despite increase.

WTF happened, beast mode out of nowhere. No caffeine, 6hrs sleep, semi-fasted. Very welcomed anyway.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 04, 2014, 03:05:58 pm »
4 February 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~90kg
Soreness : chest, lats, calves
Injuries/aches :  none

PLYOS SESSION

BILATERAL LINE HOPS:
4x40 hops

DUMBBELL SWINGS:
4x10@10kg

DUMBBELL JUMP SQUATS:
3x5@10kg each hand
-Those felt higher than last time.

SVJs:
3x3
-Mostly 25''. Got one 26'' and one ~26,5'' on first set which is awesome, 3d consecutive progressing session!  :wowthatwasnutswtf:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 03, 2014, 04:47:27 pm »
3 February 2014

Bodyweight@session : ~91kg
Soreness : just a little tight quads
Injuries/aches :  none

3-sets-progress template
Workout #7 ( Week #3 )

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
3@30kg
3@40kg
3@50kg
1@60kg
-Again failed to catch 2nd rep@60kg. Maybe i have to use 55kg as top set to progress.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
3@60kg
1@80kg
3@100kg ( +2,5kg )
-Lost depth, they were parallel, not full. On the bright side, they were not squatmornings but upright.
Also, i somehow forgot to do a 90kg single, jumped from 80kg to the 100kg work set. Duh!
I will stay at the same load next time to reach full depth.

BENCH PRESS:
8@60kg ( +1 rep )
7@60kg ( +1 rep )
6@60kg
Total = 21 reps ( +2 reps )
-Some improvement. Want more.

WIDE GRIP LAT PULLDOWN:
8@170lbs ( +10 lbs )
8@170lbs ( +10 lbs )
8@170lbs ( +10 lbs )
Total = 24 reps.
-Awesome. Back is trustworthy for progress.

PAUSED STANDING CALVE RAISES MACHINE:
20@60kg ( +5 kg )
17@60kg ( +5 kg )
16@60kg ( +5 kg )
-As i said last week, i upped the load although i didn't reach 3x20 last time. Indeed it was the tut that burned me and not the load itself.
Got the same reps and everything felt the same, easy till rep 14-15, burning hell afterwards.

ABS COASTER MACHINE:
20@BW+7,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
20@BW+7,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
20@BW+7,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Hard but nice.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 03, 2014, 05:44:54 am »
lololol! Good thing we know by now that those rants are part of your mentality, but so far they have proven to be incapable of affecting your training. Which training is on a constant linear progress for 2+ years and looks very likely to continue like that till 40'' and above.

:-*

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