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- OHP x 0
left shoulder wigging out and i need someone to show me how to do these. i don't get it.

What's your grip width like on the OHP? I remember every video/tutorial I watched advocated a shoulder width (false) grip on these things with using the lats as a shelf and all that jazz.
I used to get massive right shoulder impingement with these and also with bench. I moved my grip width out by about 2-3 inches and it made the world of difference. That and some dedicated upper back work (band pullaparts, etc).

This may have no bearing on your shoulder as you also experience the pain with the DB but either way.

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Well I sit down all day and over the last 12 months have trained at pretty much every available time.

Used to train after kids were in bed and all my shit was organised. This ended up being 9.30 odd at night. Not too bad if you'd had a good day but just crap to get motivated for if you're tired already.

These days I alternate between mornings (most often) and lunch time (did that one today) but have to say I prefer mornings actually. Just so that everything is out of the way early on and I can get on with the rest of the day without having to worry about it later.

Around lunch time is when I prefer to train, but I can't do anything even with a hour lunch break. It would be no time for me unless there was a gym walking distance from the store or I worked 2nd shift.  I think morning has more benefits than negatives as long there is enough sleep. Working 12 hours every day would probably be the hardest to get used too.

Yeah my gym is a 90 second drive away. It's still a rush to get everything done as I need to be back in a suit by the end of the hour but not too bad sometimes.
I prefer the morning at the moment. It takes me 45 mins to drive to the gym near work so I get time to wake up. Then it's all done and I can focus on my day.

Yeah long days are shit enough by themselves let alone being on your feet all day.

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Well I sit down all day and over the last 12 months have trained at pretty much every available time.

Used to train after kids were in bed and all my shit was organised. This ended up being 9.30 odd at night. Not too bad if you'd had a good day but just crap to get motivated for if you're tired already.

These days I alternate between mornings (most often) and lunch time (did that one today) but have to say I prefer mornings actually. Just so that everything is out of the way early on and I can get on with the rest of the day without having to worry about it later.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: April 01, 2013, 11:16:08 pm »
2/4/13

So after a horrible last week on my hips and lower back I finally got back into the gym today. Am thinking it a combination of the corked ass cheek from my game last week plus a max squat plus not doing any form of exercise at all for the remainder of the week. Have been doing heaps of mobility, SMR type stuff and I just decided to go in and lift today. Was going to be a kind of deload week anyway so just took it easy and focused on form and getting a good stretch in the squat.

Squat
bar x 6
60 x 5
70 x 5
80 x 5

Bench
bar x 5
40 x 5
60 x 5 x 3

Chins
4, 4, 4, 4, 4, (20 reps) The last set of these felt absolutely awesome. Had full control and I was flying up.

Body feels really good now. Have made a conscious effort to do Defrancos Agile 8 every night. So far is making the body feel pretty good but we'll see how it goes by the end of the week.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: March 26, 2013, 06:34:06 pm »
Haha very nice stuff. High bar or low bar?

Cheers. Thanks.

Bar is quite high as it sits across upper traps but I seem to have a bit more forward lean than others with a true high bar squat. Feet probably just outside shoulder width too. 
*Edit- I know this explanation seems kind of weird but I've never considered whether or not I do high or low bar. Just whatever feels best. I can say that I don't do PL style but don't do olympic style either*

Forgot to mention too, I did box jumps inbetween all sets. 3 reps each time. Mid thigh high box. Nearly came undone on the 2nd last rep when I forgot to bend my legs  :uhhhfacepalm: Lucky for me I could move them out of the way and land just before the box. Would have been an epic fail had I been 3 inches closer to the box.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: March 26, 2013, 05:46:59 pm »
27/03/13

Squat day today. Felt pretty good so decided I'd try for a PR.

Bar x 5
60 x 5
80 x 5
100 x 3
110 x 1
120 x 1
130 x 1
135 x 1  :personal-record:
140 x 1  :personal-record:

Both 135 and 140 went up really well. Was thinking of shooting for 145 but figured I could leave that for another day.
Next time I'll go straight from 130 to 140 too. Never really too sure how to ramp up when getting to the higher end for me.
Also made sure I had three plates (20s) a side on the bar instead of smaller weights to make up the difference. More for my ego than anything else.  :D

*Edit- Bodyweight of 92kg which gives me a 1.5xbw squat*

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: March 25, 2013, 07:43:29 pm »
Grand final last night. Lost by 15 in the end. We were down by about 8 after making a mini run and one of our guys got his eyebrow split open (no subs as our 6th man had his chin opened last week and is still recovering). No malice in the incident but still left us with 4 with about 10 to go. They had 2 on the bench and just ran over the top of us. Wasn't a bad game. I had 14 and had a decent time of it scoring but missed too many shots in the paint.

Felt really strong jumping and generally all around but still got more gassed than I should down the stretch. Will have to work on that one.

No squats today as took a knee to the left ass cheek and it's killing me. Will go again tomorrow morning.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: March 20, 2013, 06:07:12 pm »
21/03/13

Injuries- None
Fatigue- None
Motivation- Zero
Bodyweight- ?

Haven't been eating much all week and certainly felt it this morning. Have been so busy with work that I'm neglecting it. Really need to get back on track here.

Bench-
bar x 10
40 x 6
60 x 5
70 x 4
80 x 4 - bench was shit. Had no energy or motivation this morning. Almost called it quits before even getting to the gym but at least got some work done.

Trap Bar DL
60 x 5
100 x 5
120 x 3
140 x 2 - this felt horrible
Did box jumps for sets of 3 in between all DL sets. box was mid thigh height

DB Snatch- each arm
20 x 3
22.5 x 3
25 x 3
27.5 x 3- felt like I needed something a little different this morning and I've been enjoying these

Will get back in and squat (light day) tomorrow. Next week will stick to the 5x5 (heavy) and 5x4 (light) squat days but go with 531 type workouts for bench and trap bar DL. Will get stuck back into the food again too.

*Edit- not sure about DL. Will have a think about it over the weekend, read some literature on here and reassess*

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: March 19, 2013, 08:06:14 pm »
You'll notice a lot of people here recommend to avoid the deadlift completely for various reasons while persisting with squatting if doing other things outside the gym.

That's interesting. I was actually thinking about moving to trap bar DL and cutting volume to 1 max set per week so you could be onto something. Thanks for that.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: March 19, 2013, 12:24:24 am »
Hey Entropy, when does your ball league start? I remember posting a while back about lifting and playing on the same day and said I'd get back to you.

Well, squatting and playing on the same day seems to work out really well. I've been doing 5x5 at 115 and then 120 (didn't get all reps) and felt great for the game. Deadlifting though, not so much. Tried to play about 5 hours after deads a few weeks back and had absolutely nothing. I was doing 5x5 there too so maybe more of a reason but either way it was shit.

Will be interested to see how you structure things once you start playing.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: March 18, 2013, 11:00:33 pm »
Ball game last night- pre-lim final- we won by 15 (42-27). I had 10 points which wasn't too bad considering I was hacked everytime I went near the ball with only about half of them called by the ref. Got 5 fouls too with the last being with 16 seconds to go. It's taken me all season to get a straight answer out of the refs but I finally figured out we have no protected zone in our league. Shits me cause guys will just stand in front of the ring hoping for a charge.

Either way finally landed a one hander off two feet :ibjumping: this has to be the first time ever or at least in 14 years that I've done this. Was in warm up and I just cut to the basked when one of my team mates gave me a bounce pass. Didn't even think about it, LR plant and got it easily with one hand. The squats are obviously paying off as I have noticed (felt like) I was flying last night. No one could touch me on the rebounds.

Also, have decided to keep running with the 5x5 for squats for the time being. I will take a deload week the week after next for everything but after that will keep up the 5x5 till I cannot progress any further. Will still keep the light (80%) day in too. For bench and deads though I am going to do a max set of 5 reps with some back off and assistance work. My SVJ felt really solid at the court last night so I'm obviously doing something right. Will try to get another vid up soon too to compare to the first.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: March 17, 2013, 10:26:43 pm »
18/03/13

Injuries- None
Fatigue- Some upper back tightness but nothing major
Motivation- 6.45am doesn't provide me with too much motivation- ever!
Bodyweight?

Squat-
Warm up sets- bar x 6, 60 x 5, 80 x 5, 100 x 3, 110 x 2
Work sets- 120 x 5  :personal-record:, 5, 3, 3, 2

Box jumps between sets- 3 reps / medium box

Started out so strong and in the third set my upper back was a bit loose. The bar rested pretty badly on the left trap and I basically had a dead arm for about 2 minutes after the set. After that I pretty much phoned it in. Will get all reps next week though. Felt very good initially.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: March 14, 2013, 06:33:30 pm »
15/03/13

So after a shit nights sleep and a shocking drive into work/gym I had a massive case of the CBFs. So just went in and did whatever came to mind. Was pretty easy but just spend 35 minutes going through the paces and getting the blood moving on stuff I normally wouldn't do.

DB Bench- 17.5 x 10, 20 x 10, 22.5 x 10
Cable Rows- 40 x 10, 45 x 10, 50 x 10
DB Curl- 12.5 x 8, 8, 8
Tricep Pushdown- 40 x 10, 10, 10
Leg Press- built up to a medium set of 10 but just went really easy on this
DB Snatch- 17.5 x 5, 20 x 5, 22.5 x 5 (each arm on all sets)

Done.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: March 13, 2013, 10:49:05 pm »
14/03/2013

Injuries- None
Fatigue- None
Motivation- None
Bodyweight- ?

Bench-
Warm up sets- 6 x bar, 5 x 40, 5 x 60, 3 x 70, 1 x 80
Work sets- 85 x 4, 4, 5  :personal-record:, 3, 3

Pretty crap day in the gym. Got 5 reps at 85 which I might have done before cannot remember so I'm calling it a PR. It's the only positive thing to take out of the session. Was rushed for time so didn't warm up either which obviously didn't help.

This waiting around inbetween sets is really getting to me. Cut it to 4 mins between sets today. Maybe it showed but I just can't stand hanging around for so long. Will definitely be moving back onto 531 after this for some more variety and the knowledge that I can push the timing a little bit too.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: March 11, 2013, 06:15:08 pm »
Was meant to squat yesterday. Instead spent 3+ hours tearing my garden apart in 36 degree heat. Mucho fun.
Needless to say I didn't really feel like squatting after that.

12/03/13

Squat
Warm up sets- bar x 6, 60 x 5, 80 x 5, 100 x 3, 110 x 1 (8" box jumps in between warm up sets- 5, 5, 5, 4, 3)
Work sets- 115x5x5  :personal-record:
Felt really good this morning. Felt really tight on probably 22 of the 25 reps which made a massive difference. Didn't really struggle towards the end sets either.

Did some stretching and got out.

*edit- based on the 1 rep max calculator in the program article (total weight for 5x5 x 1.2) that gives me a rep max of 138. If I hit 120 that would give me 144 and I think I would work up to 150 by lowering the volume and increasing the weight. Pretty excited.

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