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Introduce Yourself / Re: I'm Back...
« on: July 20, 2011, 01:57:16 am »
Wasn't freaking out nor doubting it, just think it'd be nice to post a source when you post "facts". We all know the problems with stating "facts" with no source or experience.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: I'm Back...
« on: July 19, 2011, 08:58:52 pm »
Isn't that determined by the maximal strength? Or that was your idea as well? I mean, the stronger you are relatively, the longer stride length you're usually going to have.
It's determined by how much force one can generate in a window of roughly .08 seconds, while true maximal strength takes at least 1-3 seconds to fully express. Strength in the weight room and strength on the track are different entities, but one can influence the other. 

Source?

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Introduce Yourself / Re: I'm Back...
« on: July 18, 2011, 08:44:44 pm »



Finally gave up on dbhammer?

Also, do you have short arms? Deadlift seems kind of low compared to your oly squat.

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Introduce Yourself / Re: Mid-Life Crisis
« on: July 16, 2011, 03:54:51 pm »
What does TL, DR mean? (I know you're waiting for someone to ask that)

Too long, didn't read

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And I just thought of one last thing to say in terms of this debate, let's turn to logic:

If a statement is true, the contrapositive must be true, but the inverse and converse do not need to be.
More on that here: http://www.jimloy.com/logic/converse.htm

Statement: If you have a negative calorie balance, you lose weight
Converse: If you are losing weight, you have a negative calorie balance
Inverse: If you don't have a negative calorie balance, you are not losing weight
Contrapositive: If you didn't lose weight, you did not have a negative calorie balance.



I assume none of those statements are taking water/glycogen into consideration

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If you can only leg press 250 you have no business squatting 180.

okay brofessor



what should  :ibsquatting:?

You should do real squats broseph.

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RIP rugby career. Just sayin

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If you can only leg press 250 you have no business squatting 180.

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What I'm saying is your situation is impossible. If something is correct, there cannot be accurate research against it.

So it's possible for there to be conflicting evidence, but one is incorrect and the other is correct?

Well, you would have to look into in more, and see how/why there was conflicting evidence.

and lol at 9% bodyfat. And yea, people who aren't fat and lift weights don't really need to watch their calories. The original article was about people who are already fat.

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What I'm saying is your situation is impossible. If something is correct, there cannot be accurate research against it.

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You're missing the point. You posted a link to some guy rambling about what he thinks are facts. Since he believes they are facts, you cannot debate with him.


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That would assume that all research results are in harmony.  Unfortunately, that's not the case.  Not to mention vast amounts of research that suffer from poor research design and/or interpretation that get accepted as fact.  The inherent biases by the researchers, the questions they pose, and how they interpret the results confounds the issue further.  Unfortunately, things are not as black and white as they may appear.


If things are still open for opinion/debate, you cannot say people poorly understand something. If someone was to poorly understand something, that is implying there is one right answer.

I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing your logic here.  What are you trying to say?  That there are no gaps in our knowledge? Or that there is only one right answer?

There is only one right answer

Alright, then let's assume that's true.  

Do you believe that there is some research that conflicts other research?  Do you believe that there is some research that the results are inconclusive? Do you believe that there is research that is presented as fact despite having flawed designs or interpretations?  Do you believe there is some research that fails to demonstrate the desired outcome of the funding group, thus is never published?  Do you believe there is research that is passed as fact but has not been able to be reproduced with further studies?

If your answer to any of the above questions is yes, then clearly we do not know it all yet and there is room for some debate as we do not know with 100% certainty what exactly the 'only one right answer' is.

If we assume it's true, there cannot be research that conflicts other research.

I for one think everything I said is true, and that there is no debate. Show me research that shows the contrary, which I don't think you can, and then we can agree that the topic can be debated, even though there is only one right answer, so it's not really a debate, as one guy is right and one guy is wrong, or both are wrong.



Now, if we look at the definition of debate as a noun/

noun
1.
a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints: a debate in the Senate on farm price supports.


Debating on something factual cannot happen. That is like saying there can be a debate between someone who says the sky is blue, and another guy who says the sky is yellow.

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That would assume that all research results are in harmony.  Unfortunately, that's not the case.  Not to mention vast amounts of research that suffer from poor research design and/or interpretation that get accepted as fact.  The inherent biases by the researchers, the questions they pose, and how they interpret the results confounds the issue further.  Unfortunately, things are not as black and white as they may appear.


If things are still open for opinion/debate, you cannot say people poorly understand something. If someone was to poorly understand something, that is implying there is one right answer.

I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing your logic here.  What are you trying to say?  That there are no gaps in our knowledge? Or that there is only one right answer?

There is only one right answer

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That would assume that all research results are in harmony.  Unfortunately, that's not the case.  Not to mention vast amounts of research that suffer from poor research design and/or interpretation that get accepted as fact.  The inherent biases by the researchers, the questions they pose, and how they interpret the results confounds the issue further.  Unfortunately, things are not as black and white as they may appear.


If things are still open for opinion/debate, you cannot say people poorly understand something. If someone was to poorly understand something, that is implying there is one right answer.

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It's a shame this thread disintegrated so quickly without any substantial debate.  It had potential to be interesting.

There's not much to debate

Bullshit. Human metabolism is still extremely poorly understood even after 70 years of research.

Explain what is poorly understood about it. I bet you state some facts. Facts cannot be debated, so therefore, there is not much to debate. You can't debate something that is either right or wrong. There is no opinion.



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