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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 19, 2013, 08:21:40 pm »
So in another minor setback I have seemingly sprained the big toe on my right foot. The same toe got absolutely crushed a couple of weeks back during a game and then has been knocked around a few times since. Didn't really feel it getting knocked on Monday night and Tuesday it was all good but Wednesday and yesterday I couldn't walk on it at all. Had massive pain throughout the whole foot yesterday and figured I must have broken something. Got it checked out yesterday and the doc said it was just badly sprained and shouldn't be broken.

In a fortunate twist I soaked it in some super hot water yesterday arvo (which fricken killed) and that seemed to have caused the blood that was under the nail to actually loosen and bleed out (disgusting I know). Woke this morning and feels a million times better so fingers crossed it's good to go by the weekend.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 16, 2013, 07:58:51 pm »
Last game of the season. We lost the elimination final by 8 points. That makes 4 losses in a row I think. Doens't help that I've been injured. Could only run and jump at about 65-70%. As a result I had a few fouls from situations where I'd normally block someone or move to the correct position a bit quicker. Had 9 points but again didn't contest too much inside the paint. Am looking forward to the 3 weeks off to give the body a rest and get some quality lifting in. Knee is pretty painful today but hopefully pulls up well by the weekend. It's bizarre but I haven't dunked a ball in about 5-6 weeks. With the back and knee recently it just hasn't felt good.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 15, 2013, 10:29:54 pm »
15/09/13

Finally got in the gym again. Compromised training given my knee and back but managed to get something done.

Warm up

RDL
bar x 10
40 x 5
50 x 5
60 x 5, 5, 5

Incline Bench
bar x 10
40 x 5
50 x 5
60 x 5
65 x 5
50 x 10, 10, 7

Chins
Small sets up to 14 reps before back started to nag at me. Am super conscious of the back atm so called it off.

Did some dribbling drills inbetween sets. I'm actually worse than I thought. Don't really notice during a game as most of my dribbling is 1-2 dribbles then a shot. At least the practice should get me somewhere then.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 10, 2013, 11:30:45 pm »
Knee update- Knee is feeling somewhat better. Still some pain when bending the knee with weight on it but much less so than yesterday. Fingers crossed I'll be good to go by Monday. Will be in the gym tonight so will steer clear of squats but will try out some RDLs to get the hams and glutes going.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 09, 2013, 10:50:54 pm »
Ball game last night. Lost by 7 points. Another blow to my fitness chances. Hyper-extended my right knee with 2 minutes left in the game. Ridiculous amount of pain but no pops or crackles. Went straight off and iced it when I got home. Not a huge amount of swelling today and can walk pretty well. Some pain when bending it or walking down stairs but only a 5/10 on the pain scale. Fingers crossed some anti-inflams will help me get sorted but I'm not liking my chances of playing next week which is our first final. From the research I've done it looks like a 2-3 week standard even for just a minor hyper-extension.

If anyone else has had something similar please let me know what you did for recovery.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 09, 2013, 02:40:54 am »
Any reason for the single leg jumps of both left and right? For mine you look much more coordinated off your left foot so I'm wondering why you'd even bother doing both legs. As a natural one foot jumper I can't imagine ever jumping off my right leg. I used to have to do it for training when we did left handed lay-ups but would never do it outside that situation.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 08, 2013, 09:39:37 pm »
So late last week the body felt like a train wreck. Smashed the foam rolling, stretching, SMR, whatever else I could do. I have a feeling my main problem at the moment is super tight upper quads and glutes and a weakness in the hams.

Felt pretty good Saturday and decided to get in the gym.

7/9/13

Warm up-
90/90 hip lift
Iso lunge- 30s left and right
warrior 3 pose- 30s left and right

Front Squat
bar x 5
40 x 5
50 x 5
60 x 5

Incline Press
bar x 8
40 x 8
50 x 8
60 x 8

It's quite sad that my FS is the same weight as my incline bench but I really wanted to start out conservatively given the recent state of my back. I figure I should be able to add 5kg a week to the FS over the next few months. This would take me to around the 100 mark by Christmas. Will also be starting the deadlift off at 80-90kg. It's going to be hard on the ego but will be better for me long term. Will also give me some time to get the work capacity up whilst the weights are low.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: sleep habits
« on: September 04, 2013, 08:05:27 pm »
Interesting read Coges! Ive read about the first/second sleep before seems like our kids do it very naturally lol!

Sadly I fall into the 'insomniac, stop thinking' category. I have gotten 6 hours each of the last two nights so thats a positive.  :)

Haha. Don't they.

I've never really struggled with that so can't really offer any advice. Maybe meditation if you haven't tried it.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: sleep habits
« on: September 04, 2013, 03:39:09 am »
Sleep is an interesting factor for me but I just never get enough of it. 2 young children means I have rarely had an unbroken nights sleep in the last 4 years. I average 6 or so hours a night but I could remedy this by going to sleep earlier. I'm usually getting to bed at 11-11.30 whereas I could be there at least an hour earlier if I really wanted to.

Thought this was an interesting read though...
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/fascinating_facts_about_sleep;jsessionid=22E4F11D53DB39C6BDF2C6C1C50F07AA-mcd01.hydra

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 04, 2013, 03:20:53 am »
The Program
So here’s what I’m thinking going forward. As I mentioned previously I will have two non-negotiable days for my training. This is where I’ll do the bulk of the lifting that really matters. On the third (middle) day though I can practice things and get some additional work in. I also want to use this day to keep the back squat in the routine with a few singles/doubles/triples. I figure this shouldn’t take too much out of me if I keep the volume pretty low. This additional day I want to keep flexible should I become inspired to try out some new lift/skill/whatever. I have some short term goals too which will pretty much get me back to places that I have been before:

Short Term Goals (by Christmas):
Front Squat- 100 x 5
Incline Press- BW x 6
Chins – 10 continuous reps
Back Squat- 1x130
Deadlift- 3x150
Military Press- 1x70

Day 1- Tuesday
Front Squat- work up to top set of 3-5
Incline Press 3x6-8
Chins 25 reps total
RDL 3x8-12
Windshield Wipers 3x10
BB Complex or Hill Sprints
(complex = row, hang clean, FS, military press, BS, good morning)

Day 2- Thursday
Back Squat- work up to 1-3 sets of 1-3 reps (depending on how feeling on the day). To be heavy but not gut busting slam my head against a wall to get excited heavy
Handstand work
Front Lever work
BB Complex 5x3 (work up to a heavy set of 3 reps)
BB Curls 3x12
Push Ups 3xmax
3km run

Day 3- Saturday/Sunday
Deadlift- work up to a top set of 3-5
BSS 3x8-12
Military Press 3x5
Chins 25 reps total
Windshield Wipers 3x10
BB Complex or Hill Sprints
(complex = row, hang clean, FS, military press, BS, good morning)

As far as the reps go, on the main lifts when I hit the top number I will increase the weight (5kg jumps for everything but military press which will be 2.5kg). When I don’t hit the top number I will stay at that weight till I do. When I reach an appreciable level of strength I will most likely switch to a 531 style of programming for the reps and loading. I don’t think it’s worth it right now but believe I should make some solid progress over the next 3-4 months in the lead up to Christmas to get back to almost where I was before I can implement 531 style then.

I understand that I will not progress as quickly strength wise given the additional cardio/conditioning stuff I am doing but then again I don’t lift huge weights so really I’m sure I can make pretty good progress here. I’m pretty excited about adding in some running and sprints. I don’t think I’ve ever come close to overtraining in my life so I’m not really too worried about putting this in. I actually don’t think I could overtrain on this program. I will just need to pay extra attention to nutrition and recovery.

Recovery: I will aim to do some sort of stretching/SMR/foam rolling every day including pre and post training stuff.

Nutrition: I have been following an IF style of eating. The main problem here is that I get distracted during the day with work and don’t end up eating anything. Then when I get home I just don’t get the time to eat properly meaning some days I get 3,000-4,000 cals and others I get 1,500. I need to make a concerted effort to get around 3,000-3,500 every day. I’m sure this will do wonders for my strength and recovery.   

Plyos: will look at that again once I’m fully healthy and training consistently. I don’t see any need to incorporate just now. Will play it by ear and maybe add some after 6-8 weeks if all is progressing well.

Obviously on top of this I will be playing ball once a week and will probably have a shoot around once a week for 30-45 mins. LBSS had the insight to suggest I do more handstand and lever work throughout the week instead of consolidating it into one day. Originally I was sold and was going to intersperse it in between other lifts. Given my lack of ball skills lately I will actually dedicate this time to getting some ball handling drills in. Something I can quite easily spend a couple of minutes on between sets of the first 1-2 lifts each day. This should provide me with some good practice. I figure any practice is better than all the practice I haven’t been doing at the moment.

I think most of this makes sense. If you’ve got any feedback or think I’m an idiot please feel free to let me know. I’m sure there’s heaps of holes in my programming so would welcome some constructive criticism.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 03, 2013, 08:19:21 pm »
That fat guy should be playing rugby.
I can't remember ever being fouled out of a game but it must've sucked especially when the fouls are soft. Doesn't help playing without any subs either.

haha yeah he probably should. I suppose at least he's doing something.
It truly sucks especially considering I'm the only guy on the floor over 6ft. That also means I get most of the rebounds and am contesting most shots in the lane too which naturally brings more fouls. Only the second time in the last 2 seasons I've fouled out though so not too bad.

Our team is going through some changes atm too so will be an interesting season ahead. We're losing two of our better players including our top scorer. I have figured out the problem with the team though. I need to score at least 20-25 a game for us to win on a regular basis. Strangely enough when I was doing some ball practice during the week (mainly just shooting) I was averaging in the high teens without too much focus on taking heaps of shots. Who'd have thought that doing some practice would help me in a game situation  :o Haven't done that for a while and whilst I've had a couple of decent games the scoring hasn't been all that great. We have finals coming up (which we'll probably go out in first round) and new season starts in around 5 weeks so I have a bit of time to get the back fully healthy, pick up a bit more fitness and work on the skills some more. With a higher fitness base I should be scoring 20 minimum. If I contest nearly all rebounds I'll get a heap of 2nd and 3rd attempts. I probably only contest 50-65% of rebounds at the moment.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 03, 2013, 02:56:23 am »
 :raging: So had a ball game last night. It's one I'd really rather forget. We're playing a team who we normally beat by 10-15 although they're not without skill. We only had 5 on the night and were missing our top scorer again. I picked up 3 super quick fouls (2 of them complete rubbish from a fat lesbian umpire) so had to play conservatively. I picked up a dumb one early in the 2nd half which was totally there. Then with 15 minutes to go the scores are around level and I have the ball on the three point line around 45 degrees. The guy in front of me is huge. And by huge I mean he's a fat fuck. He's prob 6ft tall and 120-130kg. I fake left and drive right and he manages to slide into the side of me as I go past. He knocks me into another of their players and the ref calls a charge on the first contact. A FUCKING CHARGE!!! Was so unbelievable that the other team even offered for her to reverse it and keep me on the court. She refuses, I sit the rest of the match and with 4 on the court we lose by 25. Just to add injury to insult their big guy landed square on my toe and forced the nail down into my big toe which is now all cut up and bruised. What a fantastic evening.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 03, 2013, 01:58:55 am »
Ah no good. Shame you're all the way over there.

I'm sure you'll get some great benefits from the general fitness and endurance when it comes to converting it to more specific basketball fitness though.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 02, 2013, 07:53:18 pm »
3. I'm way overfocusing on strength. I dont care about dunking, i'm not in it for the dunks or huge jumps. I wanted to be a good basketball player, which in my mind includes having excellent athleticism, true. But at this stage my skill deficit is much greater than my strength and power one. I need a lot more movement work specific to playing than I do with spending time in the gym. But. I don't like to give up on what I started, and i'm so close now to getting that minimal gold standard of 2xbw squats (FS and HBBS -- the latter for reps), that i will see it thru. I just need to slowly add back sports specific work so i'm ready for game time (~6-7 months from now).

4. As always i've neglected conditioning, it always seems to fall on the wayside. I know why it happens, sore legs don't help when you're focusing on pushing up squats. But whether I like it or not, it's just as important if not more important to have a big strong motor than raw power. I can play great defense. Or I can play great offense, but not both, because my conditioning didn't permit it last time.

IMO these are two great questions? When do you start incorporating these at the expense of what else you are trying to achieve? You could strength train endlessly without ever being ready to start conditioning or working skills let alone even playing basketball.

I see what you're getting at. I'll start today and do a little more each time. If I don't start working on it now it won't happen, so you're right, do something no matter how small or insignificant every chance I get. If I fail to, i'll make a note in the log for that day. Thanks.

I've always stuggled with this equation for fear of hindering my strength progress but as you have rightly said basketball is about more than dunks and jumps. Will be interesting to see how you work it in and how it affects your other training.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: September 02, 2013, 07:50:51 pm »
given my training pattern relative to my goals i'm the last person to be telling you this, but if you want to learn handstands or whatever you're better off doing it a little bit at a time, every day. your stamina will suck at the beginning anyway, so you might as well do a whole bunch of little chunks rather than having one day a week where you hate yourself because after 15 minutes you can't do it at all anymore.

Yeah good point. It's something I used to do quite frequently and have been wanting to add in for a while. The same is probably true for the levers and such. I'm probably better off doing small pieces inbetween other exercises rather than on a specific day. You've got me convinced (how easy was that).

Now what do I do on the middle day now? Guns it is!

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