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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Rankings
« on: July 07, 2011, 02:16:32 pm »
5 reps maximum, sorry...

LE: I edited the list. From now on, if you want me to put you in the list PLEASE post here the video (and weight measurement if you want) because it's hard to look all over the forum for it...

Thanks for updating Nightfly! Sry for not cross posting it in here, will do next time!

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so I learned something today, looking at past experiences: my upper body workouts are severely effected negatively by lower body work the previous day, but not vice versa... is this true?

I need to make sure I always have 1 day rest before a upperbody workout?

If your lower body work-out involves for example heavy squats, it is likely. What that means though is not that you cannot train your upperbody the next day, it just means your performance the next day is not going to be 100%. But you don't need 100% everytime you train, you just make sure that your numbers are increasing consistently. If that does not happen, you need to adjust either programming or other factors (like sleep, nutrition, etc.).

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Rankings
« on: July 06, 2011, 06:51:33 pm »
Want... 200 kg... for 5... too! Video in PR thread, along with Raptors.

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Just get stronger and this will take care of it. A bigger squat and press are going to be good movements to accomplish that.

Yeah I will have to switch from leg press to squats soon.

What kind of press do you mean ? Leg press ?  Military press ?


Why are you doing leg presses now? And I was talking about the "military press", otherwise known as "overhead press" or just "press".

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Thx Clarence,

glad you liked the vid!

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I was able to stand being there for 15 minutes, I have seen, to an extend, what you are talking about. It certainly has something to do with the size of a forum as well. It takes a lot longer to educate a big number of people and when new guys show up every day you will see the same shit being repeated all over again. I don't feel a need to be there, but I can understand your anger about that. The SS forum is big, too, so you see it there as well.
I think the olympic lifts are perceived as something of great technical difficulty, so many shy away from them because of that as well. They might not be easy to execute perfectly, but its really not very difficult to learn them to the degree that you can use them as an effective training tool for quite a while. But it seems that most are not really willing to put in enough time to read stuff, educate themselves and most importantly try things out in the weight room and improve on execution. If that was the case AlexV would not have the problem of having to teach the lifts to the players from the get go, but make slight modifications only.

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@D-Rose: A good way to do some extra jump work during the week without devoting too much extra time / extra work-outs in is to do complexes with explosive lifts and sometimes even strength lifts, probably depending on the training phase. Lance had me doing it the last two weeks and I liked it a lot in complex with powercleans, jumpsnatches and half-squats. For example: 1 set of 3 reps in jumpsnatch, 1 minute rest, 3 vertical jumps, rest 5-10 minutes and do the next set of jumpsnatches etc. The jumping does not hurt the lifts at all, at most it limits the total volume of lifting slightly, but you go into the lifting set fully rested, so intensity can still be high.
For pure jumping / plyo sessions some form of structure can help as well. I used to just go and do a number of single jumps until a significant drop-off happened. An alternative I learned is doing a series with X jumps, with ~45 sec rest between reps, which is plenty. It primarily helps to stay focused, warmed-up and activated between attempts and gives the session a structure that I felt was lacking at least in my former sessions. You could also structure it in sets and reps, for example do a set of 3 with timed rests, regenerate, do the next set. Then move on to drops, bounds or other stuff. Keeping it nice and short probably helps a lot with fatigue management as well.
Just some ideas to try...

@Joel: Have you ever had substantial success with training with a weight-vest? I would imagine that for example a 5 lbs vest was just annoying and not really adding much resistance. Don't know, maybe I should try it.

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145 kg or 320 lbs squat :personal-record: today.

A 5 kg PR? Sick stuff! Congrats!

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I agree that olympic lifts are a great way to train, you know that I do.

In how many s&c forums do you frequently read in that you are so pissed off about stupid kids though?  ;D

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Greg Everett:

Its very very annoying to hear this horseshit that olympic lifts and their variations only "express" strength, and I have yet to see it said by anyone who actually has the experience under the bar with these lifts themselves say such a dumb ass thing.  Deadlifts VERY OFTEN will go up SUBSTANTIALLY, WITHOUT DEADLIFTING, from doing power cleans from the floor.  Power cleans WONT go up linearly, from getting stronger in the deadlift.  This is one reason using power cleans from the floor is a great option for team sport athletes, it saves the cns from the burn out of heavy deadlifting, gives a MUCH better carryover to jumps/sprints/power, and yet it still will improve the actual deadlift itself in most cases assuming the athlete can adequately perform the lift.

I think no one would seriously doubt the benefits of the olympic lifts for every strength and power athlete. However, if the olympic lifts are actually sufficient and also efficient in making athletes stronger, why does every weightlifter on the planet feel the need to squat and/or front squat so often then? It certainly is not only because of variety.

The argument whether deadlift increases drive powerclean increases or vice versa is completely artificial IMO. It's neither nor. Serious training will lead to adaptations from the organism and those adaptations apply to similar tasks as well. So there are obviously variables in play that mediate the connection and this will probably work in both directions to an extend. Now, for an olympic lifter there is no need to increase his deadlift unless this increase has carryover to competition lifts. And this is the actual debate and point of disagreement from my perception of it.

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Can you give me some more info on bracing my core?

In fact just the other day at the gym someone told me that in my jump i need to hold my core steady and jump upwards with my upper body and shoulders straight, aggressively toward the rim...

Just get stronger and this will take care of it. A bigger squat and press are going to be good movements to accomplish that.

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I really have no idea how to fix that. I'm not sure if it's a matter of structure or a matter of mobility/body position in terms of correcting that. Probably strength too since even if I were to lower my hips and straighten my back, when I'd start to lift I'd still get to the same position and lift the same, so...

Well, it's certainly a combination of those factors. A rounded back is actually a mechanically advantageous position for the deadlift. A possible fix would be to work on the setup a lot (feet need to point out for example) and not do heavy singles. They will often look like that. Instead perform deadlifts with a weight that you can lift for a set of 5, maybe do a slight deload even and take care of your form. That will strengthen the back so that it can maintain it's neutral position during the lift.

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And yeah my deadlift is "OK" but you can see I bend my back a lot in there... it's very ugly.

I did not claim that it was beautiful ;).

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Is that your new gym? Strong deadlift btw.

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I have noticed that on some days my breathing is really deep and well timed and it just helps me push through tons of more weight  :personal-record:

But I don't know what I'm doing... some days I do the right thing and 90% of the time I am just randomly breathing

What is the right way to breathe while lifting?

Hold breath while doing the rep, breath between reps. Moderately deep breath usually works best and helps not to black out. Extremely deep breath is not beneficial in my experience.

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