Greg Everett:
Its very very annoying to hear this horseshit that olympic lifts and their variations only "express" strength, and I have yet to see it said by anyone who actually has the experience under the bar with these lifts themselves say such a dumb ass thing. Deadlifts VERY OFTEN will go up SUBSTANTIALLY, WITHOUT DEADLIFTING, from doing power cleans from the floor. Power cleans WONT go up linearly, from getting stronger in the deadlift. This is one reason using power cleans from the floor is a great option for team sport athletes, it saves the cns from the burn out of heavy deadlifting, gives a MUCH better carryover to jumps/sprints/power, and yet it still will improve the actual deadlift itself in most cases assuming the athlete can adequately perform the lift.
I think no one would seriously doubt the benefits of the olympic lifts for every strength and power athlete. However, if the olympic lifts are actually
sufficient and also
efficient in making athletes stronger, why does every weightlifter on the planet feel the need to squat and/or front squat so often then? It certainly is not only because of variety.
The argument whether deadlift increases drive powerclean increases or vice versa is completely artificial IMO. It's neither nor. Serious training will lead to adaptations from the organism and those adaptations apply to similar tasks as well. So there are obviously variables in play that mediate the connection and this will probably work in both directions
to an extend. Now, for an olympic lifter there is no need to increase his deadlift unless this increase has carryover to competition lifts. And this is the
actual debate and point of disagreement from my perception of it.