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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kettlebell swinging jumps
« on: August 06, 2013, 04:27:01 pm »
For me, like I said - I think eccentrically, after the landing, there might be benefits. But in terms of actual power DEVELOPMENT you can do much safer and much more effective exercises (you can also do depth jumps for the eccentric part).
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Nature, Wilderness, Hiking, Travel, and Misc Outdoorsy stuff / Re: Random landscape of the day
« on: August 06, 2013, 11:04:07 am »
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kettlebell swinging jumps
« on: August 06, 2013, 09:30:52 am »Quote
Oh and also this is much different of a movement than a regular KB swing. That for me with a 24kg is much easier because I lose acceleration at the top by stopping it slightly. Instead of swinging it, I would have to throw the kettlebell upwards or behind me for a similar effect as these jumps.
Yeah that would be the best exercise possible in terms of KB swings. Throw the KB AFTER THE HIP HYPEREXTENSION is reached.
The only possible positive effect I see in your exercise is the landing with a ton of forward momentum and being able to stabilize that landing without having the knee collapsing. So it's actually in the eccentric phase if there's any benefit. But as far as developing force, even with the swing being initiated by the legs... no, it's not superior by any means to a regular swing.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kettlebell swinging jumps
« on: August 06, 2013, 04:02:35 am »
No Avishek... you're just not going to get any "real benefits" and you could even program yourself with a FAULTY mechanic doing these.
Your jumps do not occur due to reaching a point of extension that determines a jump to occur, but rather you forcing the jump pulling with your "back" and using the weight of the KB to pull you forward. Which is something you don't want to do and it's counterproductive to athletic endeavors.
So you're not:
1) Using maximal power
2) Using maximal extension
3) Using maximal speed
4) Using correct mechanics
Then why the hell would this still be beneficial and not a waste of time and body resources? You could do regular KB swings and overhead tosses with a medball or basic broad jumps and get a much better workout.
You'd get maximal power doing the "grounded" KB swings AND maximal hip extension while using correct mechanics and doing overhead tosses or broad jumps you'd use maximal speed as well + hip extension + correct mechanics + maximal power.
So there ya have it.
This exercise is like me saying "if you want to drive a car better you should drive it at 10 miles per hour with 2 pairs of sunglasses on - that will improve your ability to drive the car faster without these sunglasses on".
Well how about driving the car faster without the sunglasses on in the first place?
Your jumps do not occur due to reaching a point of extension that determines a jump to occur, but rather you forcing the jump pulling with your "back" and using the weight of the KB to pull you forward. Which is something you don't want to do and it's counterproductive to athletic endeavors.
So you're not:
1) Using maximal power
2) Using maximal extension
3) Using maximal speed
4) Using correct mechanics
Then why the hell would this still be beneficial and not a waste of time and body resources? You could do regular KB swings and overhead tosses with a medball or basic broad jumps and get a much better workout.
You'd get maximal power doing the "grounded" KB swings AND maximal hip extension while using correct mechanics and doing overhead tosses or broad jumps you'd use maximal speed as well + hip extension + correct mechanics + maximal power.
So there ya have it.
This exercise is like me saying "if you want to drive a car better you should drive it at 10 miles per hour with 2 pairs of sunglasses on - that will improve your ability to drive the car faster without these sunglasses on".
Well how about driving the car faster without the sunglasses on in the first place?
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: August 06, 2013, 03:54:17 am »
No safety pins in the rack? Kinda... kinda dangerous.
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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: August 06, 2013, 03:53:04 am »
You should film the bounds and 2-leg bounds/broad jumps. Heck, film everything.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kettlebell swinging jumps
« on: August 05, 2013, 06:30:30 pm »Or like in cleans where you worry too much about the drop under the bar to finish your pull
I've always had this problem. Obviously it gets even worse considering I can't do a low catch and I can't keep the elbows forward (only down, perpendicular to the ground and catch it on my chest).
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Kettlebell swinging jumps
« on: August 05, 2013, 04:26:11 pm »
Um... two observations
Looking at the replay I can see two things:
1) Hip hyperextension DOES NOT occur
2) You're actually initiating a "pull the torso up" movement to "jump" forward
So if you're doing these two things ^^^ instead of actually working on emphasizing the hip extension/hyperextension you're not only not training the hip extension but you're also programming yourself to raise the torso when jumping and not actually using the hips.
If I were you I'd stop doing these
If you compare what you're doing here with a med ball overhead toss or a traditional KB swing... the amount of hip extension/hyperextension is not even comparable.
Looking at the replay I can see two things:
1) Hip hyperextension DOES NOT occur
2) You're actually initiating a "pull the torso up" movement to "jump" forward
So if you're doing these two things ^^^ instead of actually working on emphasizing the hip extension/hyperextension you're not only not training the hip extension but you're also programming yourself to raise the torso when jumping and not actually using the hips.
If I were you I'd stop doing these
If you compare what you're doing here with a med ball overhead toss or a traditional KB swing... the amount of hip extension/hyperextension is not even comparable.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Avishek Drops
« on: August 04, 2013, 06:25:27 pm »
Yes, I have incorporated the 1-2 jump squat in my routine for quite a while.
By the way - I haven't seen Lance around here in a while. Any idea of his whereabouts?
By the way - I haven't seen Lance around here in a while. Any idea of his whereabouts?
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Avishek Drops
« on: August 04, 2013, 05:00:20 pm »
Well you get more calf involvement in the depth jump than in the jump squat since you have to take in a landing before jumping.
Also, after you take in the landing at an overloaded weight you can jump with only your bodyweight.
So it's a overloaded eccentric coupled with a bodyweight jump squat.
Also, after you take in the landing at an overloaded weight you can jump with only your bodyweight.
So it's a overloaded eccentric coupled with a bodyweight jump squat.
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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Avishek Drops
« on: August 04, 2013, 11:17:34 am »
Actually, you can recruit all your motor neurons from doing 80%+ of 1RM squats, so the need of doing depth jumps knowing that is SEVERELY overrated.
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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Avishek Drops
« on: August 04, 2013, 05:50:41 am »
Um... when I saw the staircase to the right I thought you were going to use that.
#dissapointed
#dissapointed