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I remember you saying how you didn't like high top shoes for jumping, but I think you were a two foot jumper before. You think that you would do fine with high tops for one foot jumping? It seems like there's little to no dorsiflexion when you jump off one, so high tops shouldn't be a problem.
yo!
Well, I just don't like basketball shoes at all; high, mid, or low. If I have to wear basketball shoes, they would be low.
Alot of it is mental, I just hate how they feel. Some of it is physical; they are heavy, slow me down, and I don't like how my ankle feels in them when I jump maximally.
Plus, how can I run, then get my jumps in? I have to wear shoes that are strong enough for both, but light/proper enough to run in. So, this kind of defaults me to jumping in running shoes (more preferably, XC flats).
You make a good point regarding dorsi-flexion.
The biggest concern with jumping in XC flats, that i've experienced, is your feet themselves. Much easier to injure your heel, plantar fascia, toenails etc when jumping in such light shoes. However, when I dunked with DLRVJ, I was so adapted to my nike zoom waffle racers (XC flats) that I never had any issues, and DLRVJ is arguably much more intense on the feet/ankles than SLRVJ when it comes to jumping - especially with my side plant that I had, which had alot of 'ankle rolling'.
One thing I have wondered about is, whether or not I would get up higher in basketball shoes (if I just stuck with them completely), since they are so much stronger. It's possible, but, since all of my major PR's have come in XC flats AND they feel SO MUCH better to me, I just don't feel the need to experiment with basketball shoes anymore.
I think the highest I ever jumped in basketball shoes was a 10'10 touch.. a few months later, though stronger/more explosive, I hit 11' in XC flats.. haven't turned back since.
I think it makes even more sense though, that SLRVJ in XC flats will be better than DLRVJ in XC flats. Just less time on the ground, less of an intense lateral plant, less ankle mobility required, etc.
The last factor is $$. XC flats are CHEAP. My Nike Zoom Waffle Racers used to cost me 29-39$. Right now, my NB XC900's cost me 49-59$.
Since i'm not playing basketball, just jumping (and eventually dunking), I just don't see the need for the extra support/heavyness of basketball shoes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SjWELd25Vc
Some footage, all 9'6 dunks. Am getting mid 30's in vert for these jumps. I really like coming in from the baseline, and I think Raptor or adarq mentioned something about it too. It sucks that I don't have enough space though, but I definitely feel like I get higher for some reason coming in from the baseline angle.
like i said on youtube: nice jumps.. especially that first one. it's a very springy/bouncy jump, looks very smooth. I can't imagine you wouldn't be able to get up even higher if you had more space/stronger runup. I wouldn't do that though until you feel your knee "issues" are under control. staying submax for now is definitely safer.
TKE's can work wonders for knee issues.. a strong VMO can be the difference between knee pain and health. so that's what I was eluding too last week in my journal, about 'you may be quad dominant, but they may still be weak'. Here's a very simple TKE, it's actually quite effective:<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRZsGDiXiU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKRZsGDiXiU</a>
if you experiment with those, you want to focus everything on the VMO (teardrop quad).
there's other variations of TKE's, but that one is the most simple variation to experiment with and see if it helps.
ya i loved coming in from the baseline with DLRVJ.. i'm not as comfortable from that angle, with SLRVJ yet.
ya my reach is ~8' in shoes, definitely helps. Wish it was like 8'6" though... lmao.
you keep mentioning this quad dominant stuff.. i dno, it doesn't seem to me like you're hitting your hamstrings/glutes enough? I just get that vibe.. if this quad dominance you have is somehow really a problem, you could focus hard on your hamstrings/glutes. I personally am very happy for my "strong quads". If they were somehow so strong (or p-chain so weak) that I would consistently get knee/tendonitis issues in my knee when jumping, I would make sure they are actually strong enough & that's not the reason for the knee issues, jump less frequently, jump with less intensity, sprint, and target my p-chain hard.
pc!
We have around the same max vertical reach. I think that it's gonna take a year or so for me before I can start going to the gym to throw down lobs on 10. You think you're around that mark?
well, if I can stay healthy, I think much less than a year tbh.. at the rate i'm going right now, I might be able to throw down some weak dunks in ~3 months off L-SLRVJ.. but that all depends on whether or not I can jump consistently (injuries not getting in the way). My training is starting to converge into something that feels maintainable; with more of a focus on power/recovery than distance/volume. This is why i'm a bit more optimistic now.QuoteI also wish I was a one foot jumper too lol.
ya I think i'm more of a natural 1-foot jumper.. or maybe it's just the "millions" of layups I did over my lifetime. After a very long period of detraining, I just feel more comfortable jumping off of one leg, rather than two. I think that's a telling sign.
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