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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: July 02, 2016, 10:07:00 pm »
finally have access to a 9'8 rim, spent 2.5 hours there. felt good being able to jump off a full approach. its a bit awkward, so definitely gotta keep getting out here instead of just jumping in my backyard. very glad i had no left knee pain during that too. it seems like that all thats left is the "weird" feeling to it and the clicking.

never had the chance to lob off full LR approaches, so slowly getting better at it. putting down 2 handers, and can hang on the rim afterwards lol. tried a few off the dribble RL dunks, only made one, rest got rimmed out. one handers off RL still really easily. LR off the dribble still terrible though lol, i barely tried it. i jump higher off LR now, but off the dribble, RL is just way easier. the few RL dunks didn't bother my left knee, but i'm still cautious using the plant. if i knew going off RL wouldn't bother my knee, i'd switch to it though, my right leg is stronger, and i'm smoother/more natural with it even though i haven't been jumping with it. anyone have more insight as to why going off RL would potential bother the top of my left knee?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 25, 2016, 07:21:51 pm »
Quote from: LBSS on June 25, 2016, 11:53:15 am
why would RL be more hip dominant than LR? or are you just saying that's how it feels for you?

it feels that way for me, and i've read before how going right handed with the RL plant allows you to open up your hips and have a more hip dominant plant. i guess it might not be the same for everyone though i guess.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 24, 2016, 09:37:19 pm »
Deadlifts today with 265 lbs, 4,4,3.

Also, another LR vs RL comparison for right handers?

LR

pros
-strengthens the left leg and gives carryover to the one foot jump
-you can replicate the reverse of the RL plant if you get good enough with your left hand

cons
-more quad dominant(?)
-can be more awkward to dunk off the dribble with
-shorter reach with the right hand, and is especially hard to dunk right handed off the dribble. if you can just dunk right handed off the dribble, you won't be far from dunking two handed

RL

pros
-makes its very easy to dunk one handed
-smoother off the dribble
-more hip dominant

cons
-if you stick with this plant for a while, your left leg will be weaker and you won't be as good off one foot
-2 handers seem hard because you're so used to getting that extra reach
-little incentive to dunk left handed

that was all that i could think of for now lol, kinda getting into detail here. anyone have more to add?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 23, 2016, 02:52:31 am »
Quote from: acole14 on June 22, 2016, 11:23:44 pm
Quote from: jumperer on June 20, 2016, 06:40:43 pm
I see. well i'm staying away from one foot jumping anyway. I still think that I'm too quad dominant, which is gonna keep bugging my left quadricep tendon. it pops/clicks all the time when i extend my leg and when i foam roll my left quad, i do this thing where i bend my knee and it pops and clicks too.

Yeah mine does that. Pops and clicks are nothing to freak out about unless it hurts at the same time. They can be just be air bubbles in synovial fluid or tendons sliding around. I know a guy whose knees sound like a car backfiring when he gets into a squat, never had any knee issues though.

i see. it doesnt hurt when it pops. i actually think that sitting down for too long creates a build up or something, so i do this thing to straighten it, then it pops and it relieves the tension lol.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 22, 2016, 11:10:59 pm »
ohh lol no wonder. i rest on my palms. i think i tried elbows once, but i think it hurt cause i have wooden floors. i'll try again though later.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 22, 2016, 07:02:10 pm »
Anyone else find that foam rolling is really tiring on the arms? It's pretty much almost having to hold the push up position for as long as you have to foam roll.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 21, 2016, 12:25:10 pm »
Did 145 lbs x7 on the bench press and max of 8 pullups.

But yea, that was stupid of me to have a one foot dunk session on sunday even if it was short. gonna play it really safe, take a week break from jumping, keep stretching/foam rolling quads, strengthen VMO, and then come back and stick strictly to two foot LR jumping.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 20, 2016, 06:40:43 pm »
I see. well i'm staying away from one foot jumping anyway. I still think that I'm too quad dominant, which is gonna keep bugging my left quadricep tendon. it pops/clicks all the time when i extend my leg and when i foam roll my left quad, i do this thing where i bend my knee and it pops and clicks too.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 20, 2016, 06:51:50 am »
did a bunch of one foot jumps today and am currently regretting it lol. I got a few dunks on camera and 1 thing I notice that I can see clearly is the deep knee bend and forward shin angle I'm getting my penultimate(right) leg. feels like i'm still pretty quad dominant, so am gonna keep streching/foam rolling my quads, and stay away from one foot jumping.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 19, 2016, 07:46:55 pm »
I put more knee drive into my deadlift yesterday, and i had no knee pain. I actually felt most of it in my VMO, so that may be a good sign.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 16, 2016, 11:55:56 pm »
I wish i could go back in time though, it was the december of 2014 when I was starting to put down very weak dunks off the dribble off my RL plant. very quad dominant back then, i only did olympic style squats with the shoes, going all the way down. the extra thing i was missing back then was hip strength, so i shouldve just started deadlifting like crazy. i think what happened instead was i got sick, lost a lot of mass/strength, and couldn't get that high up anymore, so was kinda discouraged. it was around this time too i found out exactly how easy it was to dunk by palming the ball and going off one foot, so then i decided to change into a one foot jumper lol, which messed up my knee.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 15, 2016, 11:29:23 am »
PB of 10 chin ups this morning.

edit: also a drop step dunk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKt7fZ9PNrg

I still have the thing where I'm really good off 1 or 2 steps. Don't jump that much higher off a full approach.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Recovery from quadricep tendonitis
« on: June 15, 2016, 05:53:15 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0XWDVnttU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0XWDVnttU</a>

What do you guys think of Scotty's jump? i'm trying to emulate his jump, it's just so springy/bouncy. he injured his left knee, too, ACL instead of having tendinosis though.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: June 13, 2016, 08:11:46 pm »
Quote from: adarqui on June 12, 2016, 12:17:00 pm
Quote from: jumperer on June 11, 2016, 11:21:56 pm
I remember you saying how you didn't like high top shoes for jumping, but I think you were a two foot jumper before. You think that you would do fine with high tops for one foot jumping? It seems like there's little to no dorsiflexion when you jump off one, so high tops shouldn't be a problem.

yo!

Well, I just don't like basketball shoes at all; high, mid, or low. If I have to wear basketball shoes, they would be low.

Alot of it is mental, I just hate how they feel. Some of it is physical; they are heavy, slow me down, and I don't like how my ankle feels in them when I jump maximally.

Plus, how can I run, then get my jumps in? I have to wear shoes that are strong enough for both, but light/proper enough to run in. So, this kind of defaults me to jumping in running shoes (more preferably, XC flats).

You make a good point regarding dorsi-flexion.

The biggest concern with jumping in XC flats, that i've experienced, is your feet themselves. Much easier to injure your heel, plantar fascia, toenails etc when jumping in such light shoes. However, when I dunked with DLRVJ, I was so adapted to my nike zoom waffle racers (XC flats) that I never had any issues, and DLRVJ is arguably much more intense on the feet/ankles than SLRVJ when it comes to jumping - especially with my side plant that I had, which had alot of 'ankle rolling'.

One thing I have wondered about is, whether or not I would get up higher in basketball shoes (if I just stuck with them completely), since they are so much stronger. It's possible, but, since all of my major PR's have come in XC flats AND they feel SO MUCH better to me, I just don't feel the need to experiment with basketball shoes anymore.

I think the highest I ever jumped in basketball shoes was a 10'10 touch.. a few months later, though stronger/more explosive, I hit 11' in XC flats.. haven't turned back since.

I think it makes even more sense though, that SLRVJ in XC flats will be better than DLRVJ in XC flats. Just less time on the ground, less of an intense lateral plant, less ankle mobility required, etc.

The last factor is $$. XC flats are CHEAP. My Nike Zoom Waffle Racers used to cost me 29-39$. Right now, my NB XC900's cost me 49-59$.

Since i'm not playing basketball, just jumping (and eventually dunking), I just don't see the need for the extra support/heavyness of basketball shoes.

pc!

I see. I actually bought a nike zoom lt streak 2's for jumping in 2014, which were track flats for sprinting I think, and they were actually really good. They didn't have much cushion and kept me low to the floor instead of having that mushy cushion that a lot of bball shoes have. They're completely worn out now though, so I've returned back to bball shoes. I may hop back onto these racing shoes soon though lol.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: June 11, 2016, 11:21:56 pm »
I remember you saying how you didn't like high top shoes for jumping, but I think you were a two foot jumper before. You think that you would do fine with high tops for one foot jumping? It seems like there's little to no dorsiflexion when you jump off one, so high tops shouldn't be a problem.

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