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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 05, 2015, 05:07:45 am »
4 February 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~86.25kg
Soreness : quads un-recovered from Monday
Injuries/aches : none

RSR based routine
Week #4 , Day #2

HANG POWER CLEAN:
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@40kg
2@50kg
2@60kg
0@70kg
-Low weights was technique work. Watched a lot of videos, tried a few things, felt like it worked good.
60kg was sweet, smooth and fast. 70kg was a clean miss though, i could only get the bar navel-high. Should have tried 65.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
-Lol, terrible. Legs very tired. 90kg felt heavier than monday's 95kg.

UPRIGHT BB ROW:
10@32,5kg ( +2,5kg )
10@32,5kg ( +2,5kg )
10@32,5kg ( +2,5kg )
10@32,5kg ( +2,5kg )
-Strong, second time on a row adding weight without missing reps.

DB CURL:
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand ( +2reps per hand )
-Very nice.

PREACHER BB CURL:
10@27,5kg ( +2,5kg )
10@27,5kg ( +2,5kg )
-Very nice.

TRICEPS ROPE PUSH DOWN:
10@27,5kg ( +2,5kg )
10@27,5kg ( +2,5kg )
9@27,5kg ( +2,5kg ) , ( -1 rep )
7@27,5kg ( +2,5kg ) , ( -3 reps )
-Reached failure. Still very strong.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: February 05, 2015, 04:56:29 am »
Yeah, the age thing is tricky. The progress curve does shift. It gets really bad after 35. You have to do more to gain less. BUT, you can still gain. I reached my athletic peak at 37. But if i had put the same work 10-15 years ago, who knows where i would be. But yeah, 31 is not much, you still have a couple of good years, hit them hard. After that, it all depends on your ceiling. How much room is there left? If you got some room, be sure you can keep progressing. You may never reach your peak but you can still improve. So if your potential is 100, and you are now at 70 or 80, yes, you can improve and go 90. If you are already at 90+, maybe that was it. One way to find out, go get it!
2c

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 03, 2015, 05:23:44 am »
Yeah, maybe it is the exaggeration of the jump that made you feel strange about what you are seeing. Which brings us to coges, indeed the heavier the bar gets, the less i jump. And the jump at the lighter ones, you are right, it is not needed, it just happened. I will take your word about never seeing a cue about jumping in russian/chinese o-lift guides, jump + 200kg don't go in the same sentence. I guess just stabilizing at -relatively- heavy weights will auto-eliminate the jump.
Also, watching Lance's video again, although the bar is empty he doesn't jump, it looks like he takes that triple extension power and 'transfers' it to upper body, not using it to jump but using it to execute the catch rapidly/explosively. That looks like the best deal. I will go through that 1-2-3 learning drill of Lance, kinda reset myself, see what happens.
Thanks both!



2 February 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~88kg  :o
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

RSR based routine
Week #4 , Day #1

HANG POWER CLEAN:
Wanted to save all energy for squats, skipped.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
5@95kg
5@95kg
5@95kg
5@95kg
5@95kg
-Volume dusk, intensity dawn. Was not easy but went good.
I feel I am definitely much stronger already, i have built up confidence/technique at powering out of the hole.

BENCH PRESS:
10@55kg
10@55kg
10@55kg ( +2 reps )
8@55kg ( +1 rep )
-Progress. Not at 4x10 though. Still very good for my standards.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
7@BW ( +1 rep )
7@BW ( +1 rep )
6@BW
5@BW
-Finally, progress.

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
30@BW+50kg
27@BW+50kg ( +2 reps )
25@BW+50kg ( +3 reps )
-Nice, getting there!

Good day, again.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 02, 2015, 12:34:58 pm »
I hear you.
But i would suspect that jumping shows this effort exactly. It is focusing on the triple extension power and trying to pull the bar up with it instead of power-shrugging and reverse curling it that makes me jump. I am not trying to jump, I didn't even know i was jumping, i saw it on vid later. I am just trying to hyper-extend as forcefully as i can, jumping just happens as a result.
On the other hand, Lance also barely jumps. I will gladly experiment on extending without jumping, i am not prejudiced at all, BUT : is this a real cue, i mean does any coach say "don't jump because it trains hip power better" or is it a "rip says jump so don't jump just because rip said it" kind of thing?

Gukl, are you reading this? What is your view on this topic? Anybody else?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 02, 2015, 11:25:38 am »
Did you learn to PC from Mark Rippetoe?

No, from Lance. What do you mean, too much back lean on the dip?
Gotta factor in that  i have too long arms and femurs with a rather small torso, lean and angles are forced to be big.

squat looking solid. dunno how i feel about your neck, seems a bit hyperextended, but that maybe not such a big deal.

Thanks. My neck is quite long FWIW. Also I do use the 'look up' hated cue, not exactly look up though, look forward, helps me rise my chest up first.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 02, 2015, 05:44:32 am »
Visual stuff as promised.

squat side and back view:





HP clean dip and extension frames , 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 kg :












You guys see anything worth mentioning? Gukl?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 31, 2015, 10:42:20 am »
31 January 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~86,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

RSR based routine
Week #3 , Day #3

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@20kg
3@30kg
3@40kg
2@50kg
1@60kg
-I am joining entropy and gukl , adarq-org-HPC-skwad, yay!  :highfive:

I am setting a goal of reaching a BW clean until summer break, that is 6 months from now. I can sure clean 65-70 as  i am now, so ~80kg ( where i hope my BW will be by then ) is realistic.
Today I switched to hook grip, had no problems with it, i guess 8'' hand with long fingers helps. Felt better with it actually.
Also focused on achieving triple extension. Went well, visual stuff coming later.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
-Light weight. 2 min breaks, very solid form, good depth, good speed, everything good.
Feeling that i am actually getting stronger at the last 3-4 sessions, good, i felt stagnated the first 2 weeks of RSR.

BB OHP:
10@32,5kg
10@32,5kg
10@32,5kg ( +1 rep )
9@32,5kg ( +1 rep )
-Progressed but failed to get 4x10, damn.

BENT OVER DB ROW:
10 each hand @ 26kg ( +2 kg )
10 each hand @ 26kg ( +2 kg )
10 each hand @ 26kg ( +2 kg )
10 each hand @ 26kg ( +2 kg )
-Still not that challenging. I underestimated my strength here.

LANCE STANDING CALF RAISE ( explosive DL concentric, slow SL eccentric )
10 each leg @ BW+35kg ( +5 kg )
10 each leg @ BW+35kg ( +5 kg )
10 each leg @ BW+35kg ( +5 kg )
10 each leg @ BW+35kg ( +5 kg )
-Same thing with rows, rather easy.

Good day.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: January 30, 2015, 08:43:30 am »

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 29, 2015, 07:33:34 pm »
29 January 2015

Bodyweight@session : n/a
Soreness : quads tight.
Injuries/aches : none

1.5 hours full court basketball.
As always after volume squatting, legs feel very tight but somehow they perform well.
Good endurance, good vert, very strong in physical game.
Every time my game gets a little better. I am really enjoying it, probably the best player I have been, ever!
Not the most athletic though, gotta get back to 33+ dropstep/35 rvj. That would wrap it up.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:26:34 am »
28 January 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~86kg
Soreness : quads a little tight
Injuries/aches : none

RSR based routine
Week #3 , Day #2

HANG POWER SNATCH:
3@20kg
3@30kg
3@40kg
Nice. Didn't push more to stay fresh for skwats.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
6@90kg
6@90kg
6@90kg
6@90kg
6@90kg
6@90kg
-So the most difficult day came and i was able to get through it.
Was damn hard, but not fail-hard. I think 6x4 was harder. Good.
Now gotta psyche up for 5x5@95kg in 2 sessions, duh, RSR is a killer.

UPRIGHT BB ROW:
10@30kg ( +2,5kg )
10@30kg ( +2,5kg )
10@30kg ( +2,5kg )
10@30kg ( +2,5kg )
-Not even that hard, very nice.

DB CURL:
10@18kg each hand ( +2kg per hand)
8@18kg each hand ( +2kg per hand) , ( -2 reps per hand )
-18s are so much heavier than 16s. Went good though.

PREACHER BB CURL:
10@25kg
10@25kg
-Didn't up here because i upped the DB curls. Good choice, today it was hard while last time it was easy.

TRICEPS ROPE PUSH DOWN:
10@25kg
10@25kg
10@25kg
10@25kg ( +1 rep )
-Felt strong here.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: January 29, 2015, 05:15:23 am »
I need to eventually find some measurements for PR's other than jumps, since i'm not going to hit the weights like I used to.

There is a great idea to achieve that.
Change your mind and go hit the weights like you used to.
:wowthatwasnutswtf:  :-*

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 27, 2015, 03:13:56 pm »
Yeah, upon further inspection of old o-lift videos, i do NOT triple-extend at the 'heavy' clean sets. I do it at submaximal ones and also at all snatches. Can't be sure what happened this time, maybe the frame taken was a bit too late, like after the extension occurred and i am bending my knees/hips to catch already.
Point taken, will try to focus at it more next time and see what happens.
Thanks all, (+1)*3  :highfive:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 27, 2015, 01:34:28 pm »
I think you are both right. Because the triple extension frame is missing, but also given the knee and hips angles at the "takeoff" frame, it looks like there was no triple extension at all. I will film again when i get the chance and study it.
Again, when should the triple extension occur?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:36:56 am »
where dat triple extension?

Duh, I deleted the video. Is there anything special i should notice about triple extension? Should it e.g be timed with toes off or something? I never used the triple extension as a (part of a) cue. Should I ?



26 January 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~87,25kg , first time over 87 since May 2014.
Soreness : slightly sore glutes, slightly tight quads
Injuries/aches : none

RSR based routine
Week #3 , Day #1

HANG POWER SNATCH:
Gym was packed, couldn't to them. fuck.

HIGH BAR FULL SQUAT:
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
2@90kg
-Easy as it should be. Most reps kinda fast.

BENCH PRESS:
10@55kg ( +2.5kg )
10@55kg ( +2.5kg )
8@55kg ( +2.5kg ) , ( -2 reps )
7@55kg ( +2.5kg ) , ( -2 reps )
-Reached failure. Expected, can't add 2,5kg weekly for 4x10.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
6@BW
6@BW
6@BW
5@BW
-Same weak with last two times. First reps feel better but after 4 it gets almost impossible to pull up from the dead hang.

STANDING CALF RAISE MACHINE:
30@BW+50kg
25@BW+50kg ( +1 rep )
22@BW+50kg ( +2 reps )
-Hm, 3x30 is a tough bet. I'll win it though.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: January 26, 2015, 12:44:11 pm »
And a little visual for my hang power clean, from the top set @ 60kg.
Those 3 frames are : the dip ( one frame before pulling ) , the first frame that my feet are in the air and of course the catch ( biggest depth/max knee bend frame ).


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