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Anyways, if I were to go on a diet where I ate like crazy and get stronger a lot faster, it's gonna have to wait until Aug 27 when I go back home.  I can't afford to eat like that while I'm here.  Incase you didn't know, this country is so freakin expensive.  It costs me $5.75 just to take 1 bus to the supermarket and back, don't get me started on the food prices.

No need to gain 22 lbs in a week or something crazy, just eating enough to ensure quicker progress than once a week at this point. You want to slowly get to the point where you carry a reasonable amount of muscle mass for an athlete that wants to function to the best of his abilities. For a basketball player your size this won't be 250 lbs bodyweight, but it will not be 160 lbs either.

I know how expensive the UK is and I also know that food is shitty there anyways, so I can understand the objections ;).

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I didn't take offense to it, I really was curious, but I guess I am an intermediate then?  Because for a while now, I'm no longer at the point where I can add 5 lbs every session or so.  Takes me about 3 sessions or like a week and a half to add 5 lbs these days.

You are not an intermediate. You are doing too many sets, your training frequency is too low and you are not eating to recover optimally.

And how do you know what my diet is?

What kind of frequency and number of sets would you suggest?

BTW, incase you didn't know, I'm studying abroad in England right now for a total of 8 weeks, and during this time I only have time to go to the gym for 2 days a week, and I figured that was the best schedule I can utilize at this point (if you did look at my routine in my journal).  I know training 2 days a week is not much, but I'm in Europe for a once in a lifetime experience, training is not #1 for me right now.  However, I do still believe my 2 day a week schedule is more than good enough to train my weakest link right now, which is my strength

No need to justify what you are doing. I read your more recent entries and also realized your situation. Given what you do right now with your studies abroad, going for a bit slower progress is absolutely reasonable and it was not my intent to criticize that at all. But that does not make you an intermediate trainee.
I don't know your exact diet, but I can read from your entries in combination with your bodyweight increase from February to mid June that you eat very little for someone who wants to increase his relative strength and is very light to begin with (you gained 5 lbs in those 4 months).

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Handstand Pushups
« on: July 20, 2011, 04:41:39 pm »
aaaaand you take shit too seriously sometimes. funny video was funny.

Maybe that's true. But I found the video funny as well :)

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I didn't take offense to it, I really was curious, but I guess I am an intermediate then?  Because for a while now, I'm no longer at the point where I can add 5 lbs every session or so.  Takes me about 3 sessions or like a week and a half to add 5 lbs these days.

You are not an intermediate. You are doing too many sets, your training frequency is too low and you are not eating to recover optimally.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Handstand Pushups
« on: July 20, 2011, 03:52:26 pm »
I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514

For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. ;D

Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150242346315188

Damien, you have a bad habit of answering with really childish responses to serious meant questions. I was not trolling RJ here, because I am not a troll. I recognized that he is very damn strong in the press and asked why he would do handstand push-ups as assistance instead of light, higher volume presses because of the reason I stated above (better control over resistance). I was not going to imply that you cannot get strong with bodyweight movements. I just think that less ability to control resistance is a disadvantage in many cases, but probably not in this one for the reasons RJ posted. It is also an assistance movement, realize that he does real presses as well.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Handstand Pushups
« on: July 20, 2011, 03:43:55 pm »
Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?

Lots of reasons. They're fun, sometimes I don't have access to a barbell, they make sure I don't get fat, they spare the lower back, they help with gymnastic movements and body control, and I seem to recover from them better. Plus, the strength they build transfers over directly to barbell pressing, provided one does them paused and with a full ROM.

Good enough reasons! I was just wondering because I imagine the effect being similar to a work-out with higher volume / lower intensity presses. That would have the advantage of manipulating the resistance a little better if necessary. But you seem to know what you are doing, your press got fucking strong.

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Also dont get obsessed about parallel.  Only go as low as you can properly.  Over time you should be able to get deeper and deeper.

Alex, I have never understood why you would recommend that to a guy, especially a beginner, over the internet. I can to a degree understand why in group coaching situations with team sport athletes you might not have the time to coach a full squat to everyone. But this person is trying to learn full squats, because they are a better exercise for a beginner, and needs to be introduced to correct form as long as the weights are light. I doubt that doing it wrong now will make it easier to do it correct later. In the process of doing squats high nothing is learned that helps doing squats low later, since in most cases technical problems are the reason for the inability of reaching good depth with reasonable form.

Do I still qualify as a beginner if I've been squatting for 5 months now?  

The issue with my glutes not being activated during squats confuses me because when I first started squatting 5 months ago, I was half squatting.  And in doing so, my glutes were primarily getting worked, while I hardly felt anything in my quads.  Something I found weird since I assumed half squatting is mainly quads and the lower u go it's the glutes.  Right now, I am comfortably doing parallel squats sitting back, but I only feel it in my quads and hams, no glutes.

Yes, you are still a beginner, not because you have only squatted 5 months, but because you are far from the point where you couldn't progress your squat several times per week. You are considered an intermediate if that does not work anymore (provided you do other stuff right, like sleeping, eating, being consistent etc.). Also make no mistake, it is a privilege to still be a beginner and have the opportunity to make such fast progress. So it was not meant in a condescending way at all.

I don't understand your worries about your glutes at all. If you use correct form, all the muscles will fire properly. If you are not, you should change that. Post a video if you are uncertain.

I think THE MOST common thing I personally see in people starting to squat and not be able to get lower is the fact that they either:

a) Not have a wide enough stance

and/or

b) Have their feet oriented forward (which usually goes hand in hand with a narrow stance) instead of orienting them a bit to the outside to allow a better "hip opening" while going down into the squat.

So they need to play with that before they address anything more complicated.

Hits the nail in the head. +1000



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Also dont get obsessed about parallel.  Only go as low as you can properly.  Over time you should be able to get deeper and deeper.

Alex, I have never understood why you would recommend that to a guy, especially a beginner, over the internet. I can to a degree understand why in group coaching situations with team sport athletes you might not have the time to coach a full squat to everyone. But this person is trying to learn full squats, because they are a better exercise for a beginner, and needs to be introduced to correct form as long as the weights are light. I doubt that doing it wrong now will make it easier to do it correct later. In the process of doing squats high nothing is learned that helps doing squats low later, since in most cases technical problems are the reason for the inability of reaching good depth with reasonable form.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: Handstand Pushups
« on: July 20, 2011, 02:25:56 pm »
I'm chasing a 300 lb clean and strict press (I think I'm good for 255-260 now) and one of the better assistance lifts I've found are paused handstand pushups on parallettes. I'm still not great at them, but having said that, I do weigh 225 lbs. Thought I'd post up a video of today's top set.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLWBhbe514

For those of you who know me from the past, I'm not all legs anymore. ;D

Why would you do them instead of a barbell movement?

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How do you know that he carries 20% bf?

I agree with his jumping form to get better once he gets more athletic. It rarely happens the other way round (total novices in jumping aside) like some suggested.  

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About my DSVJ - SVJ differential... This has less to do with my reactivity than you guys think. I handle depth jumps from 30" and drops from higher than that just fine. I can alternate bound reasonably well for a double leg jumper also. I do currently perform plyos and did them in the past as well. So that is not the "issue" IMO.
It just happens to be that I got kinda good in SVJs by adding lots of strength and power and utilizing a greater ROM. These improvements however did not transfer to the DSVJ as easily as they would normally do (see kingfish, who has a 3" differential despite a massive SVJ) because there is no way of using that much ROM with my approach technique, so there is far less time for force production and hence the low differential (at peak performance it was ~0.5 - 1" though). Would you compare my SVJ at a smaller ROM with my DSVJ, you would see a larger differential. Also I used to jump 4-5" higher with an approach compared to standstill before beginning to train seriously last year.
Now, eventually I will switch focus to DSVJ, but that is not the time for it. The SVJ is the more basic skill (and a useful one for a volleyball player), so I will increase that first. I see my problems though and I will attack them aggressively when the time comes. I am aiming at a 3" differential at the end and I think that this is quite doable. But first things first. I PR'd my powersnatches and powercleans pretty much every week and have a lot more potential for a higher jump now. Lance and I are just trying to make that ability transmute to a higher jump right now. Should that get accomplished, you will see higher DSVJs from me in the future as well.

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a running vertical jump is basically taking horizontal force and turning it into vertical force right

I don't think that this is a good or useful estimation of what happens in a running vertical jump. Where do you have that from?

now from the looks of the video his run up to the hoop decelerates due to stutter stepping (losing potential force) optimally you wanna be constantly accelerating before you jump and also his last two steps seem a bit long from what i read a penultimate step(basically two close quick steps) is optimally for the last two steps provide more potential force. im not a expert on form or anything but from what i read and learn and implemented into my form its helped a lot but everyone is different.

Taking your strange statement from above into account I can understand why you would think that. But I can say with some confidence that there will be no improvement in jump height from a quicker run-up for this athlete. The reason being that the quickness of a run-up and its useful utilization in a vertical jump is not merely an issue of jumping form but of the athletic capabilities of the subject. If he is not strong, powerful and reactive enough to handle a quick run-up, he will actually lose jumping height from a quicker approach.

VAG his improvements on his lifts are key but people alway seem to neglect the actually practising of jumping.
improving vertical jump in no practically order
1. improve lifts (normal and explosive)
2. improve plyometric ability and reactiveness
3. improve jumping technique
4. Improve body composition
5.flexiblity

i think most people when it comes to improving vertical jump should take a holistic approach it seems like most people focus on one aspect and neglect the rest.

The problem is that resources are limited and not every point can have priority. There will be things that are more important than others and working on some of the above will actually do nothing at certain points in time. I don't want to sound condescending, but I believe that you will have to make your own experiences with those issues yet and that your opinion is so far based on very little.

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i think a primary focus on improving relative strength whilst adding in some light plyometrics and implementing the jump techniques adam linkenaguer suggest is the best way to go seriously you cant say improvement in jump technique wouldnt help

As far as his SVJ is concerned there is certainly some room for improvement that will come with practice. His jump from a run-up is already a well practiced skill for him and I don't believe he will gain much from "working on his form" alone.

his jump from a run-up has been practiced but has it been practiced efficiently and with proper technique "perfect practice makes perfect"
i do agree that improvement  in form alone isn't the answer but i definitely think it could help more then you think.

Fair enough, we do not have to agree on that. But I would like to know which basis it is that you formed that conclusion on.

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i think a primary focus on improving relative strength whilst adding in some light plyometrics and implementing the jump techniques adam linkenaguer suggest is the best way to go seriously you cant say improvement in jump technique wouldnt help

As far as his SVJ is concerned there is certainly some room for improvement that will come with practice. His jump from a run-up is already a well practiced skill for him and I don't believe he will gain much from "working on his form" alone.


@Raptor: Have you observed changes in jump mechanics from what you see in scooby to what you imagine as appropriate mechanics in you or others with help of what you suggested? If so, did those people have the years of jumping experience like scooby already has under his belt? In which time frame did those changes take place?

Well for me, off two feet, I'm jumping much quicker (and higher) right now than in the past. Not sure what the cause for that is but, other than the increase in strength, I think the two leg bounds really did their magic for me. They just improve the intermuscular coordination, if you're lacking in that, and also make you accept much higher levels of tension in the plant without making you stiffen up and blow the jump (which is what was happening in the past). The jumps are more relaxed now than in the past (basically I just exert tension when I need to and then relax and allow my body to "elongate" (triple extend) properly, whereas before I would just continue to stay stiff and just "block" myself out).

So I think it's important for scooby to do some multiresponse two-leg bounds and some consecutive hurdle jumps and film those, and see how well he does them. See if he's "not sure" in his consecutive jumps (takes time to reset etc) or not. Stuff like that.

As long as time frame is concerned, for me it took, I don't know, a month of plyos or so to see some effects.

Effects in height of the jump or the jump merely looking more elegant or being executed more quickly?

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@Raptor: Have you observed changes in jump mechanics from what you see in scooby to what you imagine as appropriate mechanics in you or others with help of what you suggested? If so, did those people have the years of jumping experience like scooby already has under his belt? In which time frame did those changes take place?

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