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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 21, 2014, 03:21:15 am »
Didn't win, i had a bad game, was on the bench for most of it, deservedly, probably. It was my 7th game for the week, 5th for the weekend. A lot to handle for a stressed out 30 year old without amazing fitness. Crazy. As I went thru the tournament, i got fitter as well, which was cool. I got leaner as well. Anyway im not going to dwell on it, all that time and effort put into training, didn't really get the return I would have liked. I just got overwhelmed by playing against top competition, my defense was ok but offense was horrible.

If i play again next year (big if), i'll just embrace what the universe has been pushing me towards, playing as PF. I need to put on a lot of weight though for that. But it makes sense, im just not athletic enough to be a great small forward. Oh and i really should have spent a lot of time developing a reliable 3 point shot if i was going to play SF, because it would have helped a lot. Still. Power forward. What does that mean, i hate playing in the post but i think that's where i belong, once i've filled out my frame some more.

Oh and fitness. So important. I wont ever neglect it again. I need to keep improving it slowly over time. Right now it's good. But it needs to be great..

And need more confidence in the post playing against good players. I can beast it in training against shorter or lighter guys who aren't trying that hard. But come tournament, you've got big strong 6'6" dude pushing back and I just mentally check out before completing the move.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 19, 2014, 11:33:12 am »
Tournament is going well, my team made the grand final, my first one ever. I can't wait for tmr, going to play my heart out.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 15, 2014, 12:39:51 am »
Bodyweight: 82.6kg / 182.1lb



Wtf... how did i get so light, so quick, lol. I really need to get a good night of sleep one of these days.. im fucked. Have another game tmr night but hopefully i'll just play little minutes and get my rest on til friday. Btw i dont think i'll be lifting at all this whole week. I would have yesterday but i went to play a game instead.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 14, 2014, 09:01:45 am »
Played my first proper game since last july or something. I didn't have the fitness to run the whole game, which i already expected but i needed to cause we didn't have subs. My team lost. We only had 5 players, actually 4, one was some guy who filled in lol. We had 12 points added to the opponents cause of lateness othewise we won that game. That's not important. I just feel like shit, i haven't slept well in 3 days so that's my main concern right now. I must have got 8 boards, 6 blocks and an additional 2 were clean but called fouls which idk about, a couple of steals. i scored i think 8 or something, nothing special, ordinary game, but happy to get a game under my belt. have another one on weds and then tournament starts friday. Idk if im gonna be ready but we'll see.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 13, 2014, 06:28:27 am »
So i'm light enough now that i can dunk cold, submax, no warmups. Did it last night at training first thnig when i got there. I just need to start sleeping better now.

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Bodyweight: 84.05kg / 185.3lb

So scale dropped out of the blue. Im not even trying to cut, just training a lot. Idk.

Training
Terrible session of basketball. Coach went a bit over board, kinda ruined the whole vibe. OH well.


Got basketball training tonight. Going to push hard.

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Basketball notes:
I did acoles challenge and matched his 11/12 effort. I was annoyed i couldn't better it though, but i'm not a great shooter right now. Hopefully as i devote more time to practice i'll become a good one. Haven't got much time, only 8 days left til the tournament. I'm so not ready haha.


Haha cool, I thought no one saw that. But I've gotta ask, what the hell have you been doing in practice if not shooting 100-200 free throws/session? I thought you would smash it.

I just never thought to shoot 100-200 free throws in practice. But should I have been?? I do most of shooting around the vulnerable areas of zones where I end up taking most of my jumpers.  Im a much better shooter from there than anywhere else. Though I have been thinking i should get more range. But i'll try your suggestion also. Thanks.

Post the vids mannnnnnn! :)

haha, i'll try.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / i lost count
« on: April 11, 2014, 12:17:48 pm »
Training
FBS 1Fx120, 1x122.5
BS 1x125
Basketball ~ 2 hours, pickup

Squat notes:
When you start failing a warmup like 120kg double, you know you're a piece of shit in the gym. Disgraceful squatting lately. Im fairly sure i was tripling 130kg or so, back when i weighed less than I do now, before the RSR bulk. But. I'm playing a lot of ball. A lot. So maybe it's to be expected. Or maybe im just making excuses.

More basketball tomorrow.

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Training
FBS 122.5
BS 1x130, 3x112.5, 3x107.5
WCU 5x95, 3x100, 2x105 (PR?)
BP 1x87.5
BBALL training ~ 2 hours - shooting, dunking, ball handling etc.

Squat notes:
Those damned sprints I ran on sunday really messed up my legs for lifting this week. i mean it's wednesday and i still haven't recovered. It was only like 8x60m or something stupid like that, and only reason i did them, was cause i wanted some unfit team mates to raise their conditioing so i thought i should also participate. The way to improve my conditioing isn't by running sprints though, it just inteferes too much with the rest of my training.

Basketball notes:
I did acoles challenge and matched his 11/12 effort. I was annoyed i couldn't better it though, but i'm not a great shooter right now. Hopefully as i devote more time to practice i'll become a good one. Haven't got much time, only 8 days left til the tournament. I'm so not ready haha.

I've got dunks on my phone. Anyone wanna see? It's nothing special but i wouldnt mind getting some feedback..

Bodyweight woes. SO to start with i was dunking shit, and yes LBSS i was warm. it was just a max effort kind of hting, and i wasnt dunking so easily. And that persisted. But as i sweated and got light, dunks got easier and easier, til they were childs play. And this is with some 20-30mins breaks while watching games at the rec center, so it wasn't like i was super warm, just sitting there getting cold til i got a chance to dunk, waiting for the court to free up between halves, etc. I came home and weighed myself and i was 84kg (no clothes), which means that's my ideal playing bodyweight. So i should be waking up in the morning around 82.5kg - something i have been feeling intuitively for a while. No matter.

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Training
FBS 2x120
Basketball training ~ 1hr drills, 1hr scratch match

Squat notes:
I last squatted tuesday, it was sunday today. This is prob the longest ive gone btw squat sessions. Dunno if i logged, but i hurt my back so i took a day off lifting thurs, balled friday night and rested saturday after getting stomach flu friday night ball, either from water fountain or from going KFC lol.  So ended up lifting and balling sunday. Not really lifting if you consider i only did a warmup as a topset and no upper body exercises at all. I should have at least done some chinups this week. But anyway, I noped out of a 126kg top single, took it out of the rack and put it back, my confidence in the gym is gone. I feel mentally defeated and i just dont want to risk injury by attempting such a light weight for a max attempt when it means nothing to me when i've lifted over 20kg more only a few months back. Anyway. Fuck it talking about squats. i'll get them back after my bball season.

Basketball notes:
I didnt play so good. Not to my standards. Friday night i beasted, even got a game time alley oop. But for the most part im not playing my best game yet. Illness, injury, mental and physical fatigue and stress are all culminating in some poor performances. I'm trying to train through it all though.

So you know you love basketball when you spend 2 hours discussing strategy and team tactics instead of talking to a girl or even watching the fuckin world cup final which i missed apparently. All good. not long to go now. im starting to look lean as well, the lightest the scale has read was i think friday morning when it was 84.45kg or something like that? todday that means it's closer to 25lb lost (24.x) rather than 15 :P But you are right, im probably getting too light than i need to be. I'll try to maintain my weight now. Im lean enough. need to get my performance up by eating normally.

i really appreciate the level of quality discourse you get on this site. im not sure what i've done to deserve it, esp when it seems like i complain and whinge mainly but like it's been observed i use this journal to vent and get out my frustrations and i know most of you understand that now. the reason i used mirror as a bodyfat check is because i got my info from physique dieting sources, aka kyle mcdowell, and i should know by now there are better sources for performance athletes. Noted. Will keep that in mind in future.

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Hey Lance idk if you still read this site but ..

check out this river monsters Q&A discussion going on right now.. i know you're into that show like many of us and it's an interesting read so far.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 04, 2014, 03:40:51 am »
Yeah... I'm wholly confused.  If you claim you would be at 2.4% at 180-183.... And now you are at 187... woudn't that make you a lot leaner than 7% currently?   

Right, I don't think he is 2.4% and i don't think i would be either if i weighed 180-183. Isn't that near enough essential bodyfat levels? Like stage ready bodybuilder levels? I dont think your friend is there, i'd say he's maybe somewhere between 6% and 12% as a guess just from visual inspection but that's not worth much. What was the estimation method btw? 2.4% with how much error? Cause if the error is say ± 3.5% then i wouldn't put much stock in 2.4% (which is claiming what, that you know bodyfat to 2 figures? i dont think so).

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My main point is that perhaps the mirror isn't the best gauge for your bodyfat levels. The person I am comparing you to is the same height as you and has much less lowerbody muscle than you (as judged by quad size) and doesn't really lift...  However, he is 2.4% at 180 while you claim to be much higher % at 165lbs.   That doesn't make sense.  Sure, if we just look at you both you "look" much fatter.   But how fat you look and how fat you are are not always in agreement. 

But the mirror is the only reliable thing we can rely on. If i look lean enough compared to other ppl who are athletic, i'd say i'm around that 10% mark, even though in reality, i have no idea what exact number my bodyfat might be in that case. And in truth it doesn't even matter. Its just a threshold of going from average in shape guy to athletic bodyfat levels. If i took a DEXA today and it came out with 6.9% (say) i wouldn't say great i'm lean now, i dont need to worry about my bodyfat. Because i'd know that i'm not quite there compared to my desire level of leanness. And after DEXA what else is there, dunk test? It's got issues too with error. We can't really do much better than mirror and photos in practice..

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I don't want to get into some long argument about race and bodyfat but just a few things to consider.  You have not been training for most of your life so you probably added a lot of subcutaneous fat cells to your body.   You are south-asian ethnicity and some evidence suggests that as such have a slightly higher set point as far as the fat you store subQ.   As such it seems reasonable to me that you might get down to 175 lbs or so (with a decent 400lb squat) and take a look at yourself in the mirror and think "I'm still too fat" while in reality your actual bodyfat % is not THAT high (say around 7%). Trust me that seeing person after person get their bodyfat tested suggests that the mirror really isn't reliable for everyone.  Cutting till you are as "ripped" as that other guy might just not work...  That's all.

It's interesting but its also a recipe for complacency. People have no shortage of excuses for not cutting. I'm going to recomp. I'm carrying a lot of LBM underneath so my bodyfat isnt that high. I'm just a few weeks away from seeing my abs IF I WANT. etc. In the end its only when you do the hard work and get rid of the bodyfat that you have something solid to show. But the only problem is when I get there, i am so weak that it's counterproductive to becoming athletic. There is probably a sweet spot to being strong enough and fat enough to be athletic though. I need to work harder at optimising my training and diet to find it..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 03, 2014, 10:41:54 am »
I loved dbs for shoulders whenever i have had a chance to use them. Just dont have them at home otherwise i'd be using them. I really hate bb ohp, it's such a shite exercise, esp for me, have injured my back so many times because of it.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 03, 2014, 10:29:25 am »
Hurt my back lifting last session. I can't be certain whether it happened during 220kg standing barbell calf raises or overhead presses. I think ohp is the culprit, it's a common thing for me, you'd think i'd learn to respect this dangerous exercise more but i keep relearning the same lesson the hard way. So dumb.

For the record pain is around right glute. I haven't got any back discomfort as far I can tell, but i know the cause is def my spine. I took the day off training, did nothing, iced to get the inflammation down. And took a 500mg naproxen tablet at 7pm. Will take another one sometime around 2am, and hope i'll be good by tomorrow. Terrible timing for this, ive been lucky to stay injury free til now..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 02, 2014, 02:58:44 am »
Bodyweight: 85kg/187lb

Blah how did the scale tip so low? Prob just an anomoly after bball yesterday, im sure it will go back up over the next few days.
Waist is into the 34s though, but that's neither there nor here. I could see a clear defined 4 pac after ball yesterday but im still fat as fuck, i think i should be thinking in terms of 80-82.5kg bw to be lean (10-12%).


Have you ever had your bodyfat tested?  Do you think that you have no muscle?  The reason I ask is a training partner of mine just got his bodyfat tested.  He is a pretty skinny build and has quads about 3'' smaller than mine (so def smaller than yours) and he was at 2.4% bodyfat at 6'3'' 181lbs.  This is a guy that doesn't lift weights (red pants in the video below)...   I really don't see how you can have the muscle mass and big lifts but have such low height/weight ratios required for bodyfat unless your bones are like half the mass of the average person.  Maybe you are more like 7% now.   



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUVnGGTXp9M" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUVnGGTXp9M</a>

7% isn't in the ballpark. You've seen me at my lightest/leanest @ ~165lb and you thought i was above 10% then. I'm no where as lean now as I was then. It's not that I think i have no muscle, it's just i have too much bodyfat for how much muscle I have. I'd probably be as lean as your friend if i weighed 180-183 (estimating here, have no idea whether i'd need to weigh as low as 170 say in reality). But yeah we've talked about htis and you convinced me I might have lightweight birdlike bones. I just find it hard to put on muscle/strenght without putting on too much bodyfat. Like in January when i ended my bulk, i was 98kg, squatting 170kg and front squatting 145kg, could still dunk. But was just soo fat. Dieting down 15kg to get lean and i've lost muscle and strength, gone from 27.5" thighs to just under 25" etc. Lifts have come down too. If I could do my bulks more efficiently, maybe i'd be a better athlete but i kinda got it wrong this time around haha.

I'm just going to try to recreate my old PRs while staying under 85kg. It might take time/patience but i have a feeling if i get that done, i will prob have a similar amount of muscle as i did at 98? probably not but that's my hope.

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