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I agree with this, but obviously it depends on the amount of volume we're talking about.

I've had some very high jumps after going to the gym or doing track work... it's weird because you feel so tired yet you still jump high.

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160 kg tying squat :personal-record: today (at 91.6 kg in the gym)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: November 18, 2013, 07:24:51 am »
When is the last time you've done plyometric work? You look like a guy with a lot of untapped strength into power. You're like a mini-tractor that sucks when he's pushed at high RPM.

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I think an important difference in between a short GCT (like a low box depth jump over a hurdle) vs. a maximal jump depth jump (like a low box depth jump with an overhead target) is the fact that the mechanics are utterly different from a point on.

The landing mechanics are the same so you might think that eccentrically you're loading the muscles and tendons in the same way in both of these scenarios.

But starting with the amortization phase there will be differences, and the MOST differences will be at the point of full body extension.

In the obstacle depth jump you will get your knees towards your chest in order to pass the hurdle in front of you so the actual hip extension might not fully occur. You might short-cut it in order to have enough time to hip flex your knees towards your chest.

In the overhead target depth jump you can truly focus on maximal triple extension.

Also, since one has a length parameter involved (jumping forward over an obstacle) and the other is 100% vertical (in a perfect world), then even the landings will differ and the body's position at landing will as well...

So it's more than just a philosophical difference that needs to be resolved.

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Yeah I do that - I move my center of gravity in front of me and land with my feet forward:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCuNTVXNI48" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCuNTVXNI48</a>

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Funny experience?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: November 17, 2013, 07:05:35 am »
What?

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You do it in the squat rack. The safety pins stop the bar.

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Bodybuilding / Re: Scary motherfawkers
« on: November 17, 2013, 07:04:20 am »
He's so strong he can't even keep the bar in his hands in a pronated grip!

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You must define the type of jump first though... and this should be a whole other thread.

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It doesn't need to be more complicated than movement efficiency + horsepower + structure as far as vertical jump goes.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: November 16, 2013, 08:49:38 pm »
They look so quad dominant... I mean the depth jump IS quad dominant but they look SO quad dominant :P

Have you tried to do them looking forward instead of down?

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Yea I can believe that, could you bring up that evidence then?

One error I saw in the document I posted is the experiment they did with loaded depth jumps. They concluded that since athletes did not jump as high with a loaded depth jump it wasn't an effective exercise. Well we know that he ground reaction force will equal the mass of the athlete times gravity. The grf produced from a 3.5 drop landing can be matched with a loaded landing from a lesser drop in an infinite number of ways.

However on the concentric portion the question arises how the muscle-tendon unit differs in restitution the energy absorbed. Compare even further to a squat, I haven't seen research (haven't really looked though) examining how the energy restitution in the tendons differs from shock plyos, weighted plyos, and lifting

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/plyomyths.html

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Chris' training journal
« on: November 16, 2013, 05:29:29 pm »
Why do you smile after your first rep?

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