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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 04, 2016, 10:01:55 pm »
Weight is down to 92.7 this morning. Back on the IF bandwagon for the moment. It's where I can be most consistent with my eating. Plan on BCAA's after training will my first meal around 1-2pm then 1-2 more meals around 5-8pm to get the rest of the cals in.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 03, 2016, 10:18:47 pm »
Trained once during the holidays and went on a 10k hike over the weekend with my wife.

Trained this morning with Deads @100kg, FS @ 70kg, DB bench and handstands. FS left my knee quite sore actually. It's pretty uncomfortable right now so I think that'll be all she wrote for squats for now. Will still to pos chain work for now till I get treatment or a clearer picture of where I'm headed.

One thing though is I had a perfect deadlift rep today. I think I've had this before but my form and angles were aligned perfectly and the rep at 100 felt effortless. I know 100 is not exactly heavy but it was an RPE of 2/10. It was perfectly in sync. Looking to replicate a few of these going forward. For my notes I had lower hips than usual by about 3-4".

*Edit- forgot to mention that my lovely wife bought me a pair of kneecaps for Xmas.
http://rocktape.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=29&zenid=d56bffa514a52b3105461dbc2bd1f5de
I did wear these today for deads and squats. Don't think it played any part in the soreness. Obviously the tear is there but I think the soreness has as lot to do with the jumpers knee. Going to book in a massage for this week to get the legs well and truly worked over.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: January 03, 2016, 10:14:20 pm »
Yeah I can't even remember the last day I was sober LOL! I had my first week of holidays in 21 months of working so I'm making the most of it over in Mildura atm just chilling 8)

Hopefully your knee gets better. Definitely just rest it because if you start jumping with too much volume or even squatting heavy it could prolong the recovery. Plus from reading your journal it sounds like you want to lose fat + also bulk up at the same time. Problem with joints is that even if all the extra bodyweight is muscle they still take more of a pounding. Not saying not to bulk but that's also another thing just to keep into consideration. Anyway enjoy your holidays!

Haha. Yeah I drank quite a lot over the last month. Mildura's hot but nice. Get yourself some oranges whilst you're there  :D

Yeah good advice. I'm always wanting both the bulk and the fat loss and for the moment I'm going to try and get back down to around 90 from my current weight of 94. Not going to squat for now (see below) so I can focus on mobility and upper body. I definitely think my body will thank me if I can get rid of 4-5kgs of fat.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: December 28, 2015, 07:31:07 pm »
Yeah most of the time I don't even know what day it is at the moment.
Physio told me to avoid pressure under full flexing and to avoid jumping and running for the moment. That was before diagnosis. Doctor who have me report didn't have anything to add so I'll just wait till I see physio again in a couple of weeks to get more info.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: December 26, 2015, 07:03:12 pm »
So got the results Christmas eve. In short:

1. Moderate jumper's knee
2. Ruptured Baker's cyst
3. Oblique tear posterior horn of medial meniscus
4. Focal osteochondral lesion medial femoral condyle

More on the meniscus:

There is incomplete inferior surface oblique tear of body of medial meniscus with intra-substance delamination and incomplete tear of medial collateral ligament.

Have booked into see my physio on Jan 20 and will get a referral to a surgeon then if he recommends. Otherwise will do whatever rehab he says. Luckily in Aus they have a medical scheme for chronic injuries where you get 5 free visits to a physio/etc. I qualify apparently so will be making full use of that.

In other news haven't been to the gym since for a week (feels like a lifetime) and nearly sliced off the tip of my middle finger Christmas day which was great fun so won't be doing too much for the upper body. May or may not get into gym over the next few days. Not really too concerned at the moment tbh.

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All good Todday. I agree we're of a similar opinion but just coming from slightly different angles.
It must be super frustrating to have clients lke that though.

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Massive fan of Bucks and never knew that about him. I do know he used to cover around 15kms per game which isn't a bad effort.

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You are coming off as kind of preachy and admitting that you PR'd on trips to Vegas which included "not a lot of completely sober moments" is kind of shooting your own argument in the foot. Actually it's more like placing your argument 6 feet in front of a tank and just rolling straight over it. Again, referring to alcohol as poison is all relative but I suggest you're slightly overdoing it here. 

Why does admitting that I'm imperfect destroy my argument?  Haven't you ever the saying do as I say not as I do?  If a meth addict who had ruined his life told you not to use meth would his argument hold no water because he didnt follow his own advice?  Those that have made mistakes are often those best equipped to give advice about avoiding them!  Its not hypocritical to tell someone they shouldnt make mistakes that you have made! 

The argument that I was making is that its patently false that people training for a very difficult fitness goal (dunking w a 7'6 reach when you have little athletic background for LBSS) are somehow aiding their chances of accomplishing it by "going out and getting shitfaced and doing stupid stuff".   Alcohol negatively impacts your ability to achieve your goals.  Thats a fact.  There are other ways to blow off steam that dont involve it.  Im not telling you not to drink.  Im not telling you not to eat ad libitum for a month long vacation and carry 10 lbs of extra bodyfat. Im just making the point that when we do things that reduce our chances of achieving a goal we should own it if the personal choice is worth it --- but we shouldnt justify it with the claim that its a necessary or position addition to our training!

It wasn't the admitting you are imperfect. You admitted you PRd around days of alcohol use. LBSS PRd or equal PRd the day after drinking. Hmmmm interesting.

This is a stupid conversation anyway. I don't endorse alcohol when you're chasing large goals. I just thought you came off a bit over the top

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Not sure we can compare LBSS to Jordan here (no offense mate  :P) but isn't there something mentally refreshing about going out and blowing off some steam. Not saying to do it every day but every once in a while surely. 

Why can't we compare LBSS to Jordan?  Doesn't mean LBSS play basketball like Michael Jordan - the similarity is MJ really wanted to be as good as he possibly good.  LBSS has wanted to dunk for close to a decade and hasn't given up on the goal, I'd say he wants it pretty bad or he is crazy.  Given that he wants it so much and has worked this hard....  why consume a poison which will only sabotage his ability to reach his goal?

As far as blowing off some steam...  I do believe that we need to relax.  We need to mentally refresh and sometimes even (gasp) take a day or a week or more off...  It's a great idea to devote a day to just meditation or massage...  We can't keep it 100 every day - we need recharge mentally and physically...  But, the thing is alcohol sabotages all these things...   

That said I don't want to come off as preachy...  Shoot, I PRed this year in trips to Vegas (embarrassed to admit I went there 3 times when once a year is more than enough).   I'm a sucker for pool parties and a there were not a lot of completely sober moments on those trips...  It can be a lot of fun and it can be great for your friendships and social life (not necessarily great for your relationship but thats another story)...  However, I think we should take responsibility for our decisions and not lie to ourselves (I think this helps us make better ones overall).   I realize that choosing to consume alcohol can negatively impact my training especially if I am at a high level.   Sometimes this tradeoff is tolerable or worth it for me because I value other things than just training...  However, I'm not gonna make that claim that Eric did - that going out and getting drunk and doing stupid things when we have a focused fitness goal is somehow helpful in that endeavor...  It's not.  Neither is spending three days in the hospital getting no sleep while your wife has complications when giving birth to your child (training would be better) and almost everyone not named Kobe Bryant (jk) would probably choose to stay at the hospital...

Point is if you decide to drink.. fine.  Realize it has a large impact on your athletic goals and is metabolic poison.  Sometimes it's worth it. But don't claim that you "should" do this because letting loose actually is good for training...  Telling ourselves those kind of lies is how we get into trouble.  Own it.

I partly agree with you and should probably start off by saying that my kind of night out is not so much like The Hangover and more like a few beers and 6 at best.

You can't compare LBSS to MJ purely because you're comparing to the 0.01% in the history of athletic endeavours. Jordan also seemed to do pretty well after the return and was a well known post game drinker and cigar smoker then too :o If a normal human (i.e. not Michael Jordan) didn't drink for 10+ years for fear that it would hold them back from gaining inches on their vert then I would call them completely crazy and probably a bit sad at that. If they choose not to drink for whatever other reason well that's their choice isn't it and good on them. 

You are coming off as kind of preachy and admitting that you PR'd on trips to Vegas which included "not a lot of completely sober moments" is kind of shooting your own argument in the foot. Actually it's more like placing your argument 6 feet in front of a tank and just rolling straight over it. Again, referring to alcohol as poison is all relative but I suggest you're slightly overdoing it here. 

My overall point is that learning to relax or being able to relax is massive in these times and if that involves heading out for a few drinks then so be it. Get over it and get on with your life.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: December 22, 2015, 06:01:03 pm »
lol there's a reason radiologists are MDs with 8-9 years of training.

Haha. I know. We all like to play doctor every now and then don't we. 

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  I think more people would benefit from going out, getting shit faced and doing stupid things when we are focused on some sort of fitness goal that we take seriously. 

Lol.  This must be a joke?  Is your reasoning that doing stupid things will get you to end up in jail where you will have more time to train?

The fact is alcohol is metabolically terrible.  Goal oriented athletes should use it sparingly.  There is a reason why michael jordan didnt drink alcohol until he was 30. 

At the very least athletes should avoid all beer and other mixed drinks and consume only limited amounts of wine and spirits.  If you do insist on drinking till the point of intoxication the absolute worst time to do it is when focused on a fitness goal.  Take a 5 day vacation to mexico.  Drink up on two of the first 3 days.  Cut back by 4 and dont drink at all the last day.

Not sure we can compare LBSS to Jordan here (no offense mate  :P) but isn't there something mentally refreshing about going out and blowing off some steam. Not saying to do it every day but every once in a while surely. 

Btw LBSS did this 2xBW squat come a day after having some drinks?
 :trollface:

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fuck yeah 2xbw, 345 @ 171

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfufQZgjPkY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfufQZgjPkY</a>

This is great!!!
 :goodjobbro:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: December 21, 2015, 10:33:25 pm »
Had MRI this morning. Have tried to do my own investigations and look at the images but idk what the hell is going on. Have to wait till Thursday for the report.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Party's Over!
« on: December 21, 2015, 09:07:20 pm »
It's been a couple weeks since I tore my hamstring. I'm playing in a 3 v 3 basketball tournament in 4 days time. I haven't even tried running yet so hopefully my body holds up :-X

Haha. Good luck mate. Just ease your way into it.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: December 20, 2015, 08:20:54 pm »
19/12/15

Got up nice and early and hit the gym to get it out of the way. Did a whole bunch of different stuff. Felt really out of order though.
Did chins, dips, RDLs, handstands, front lever practice, KB oh farmers walks, incline bench, tricep band pushdowns, bb curls and back extensions. Felt good to finally get back in there though.

21/12/15

This knee injury has knocked me around a fair bit. I feel so normal at times and then I have decent amounts of pain through the knee, calf and hamstring reminding me of what's going on. I'm not normally one to get down over this stuff but I think it's worse cause I was getting my shit together more than usual and then it happened. Got to move on though. Have booked in an MRI for tomorrow and should get the results by Thursday (Xmas eve). Need to still get on with it and at least work on what I can work on.

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