Orthotics will be custom made (got some plaster casts today; they'll be ready in three weeks). They're supposed to change the way I toe-off, basically not allowing my big toes to extend so much and transferring the movement to the middle of my foot. Or something along those lines. I'll still get push off my toes, they just won't come up as much. On the x-ray you could clearly see that the joint there is not normally shaped. It's supposed to be a ball and socket, but mine is much more like two flat bones running past each other. And the joint space isn't big enough. All that has led to a nice bone spur on top of my foot. My metatarsal rubbing up against the spur is what's making me hurt. Also, I'm to get stiffer-soled shoes. Balls.
ah ok.
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Anyway, had a nice easy workout today. It's so beautiful outside I can hardly believe it.
was here today also..
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run @easy pace x25mins, 3 miles -- 8:20 pace. HR was around 151. Something about running outside makes me able to go a lot faster than I could on a treadmill with lower HR and MUCH lower perceived effort. This run felt easy. Fuck treadmills.
ya i can't stand running on treadmills, i need changing scenery.
florians jaw is going to get knocked so hard, that redneck wouldnt even be able to eat mashed potatoes
that was retarded.
but on that note, florian is going to armbar gomi so bad he won't be able to eat his pork fried rice with chopstix, he'll have to use a fork, which will shame his samurai honor.
i know right.. eek.. I can't imagine his 600 for 6, thought it might have been better than what we see in this vid, considering he was in his prime for 600x6.
darq, how would you describe you squatting style? Have you changed it up since you last trained for vert at all, besides not doing much full squatting anymore?
you mean for me personally? well, my squatting style changed alot when I got oly-shoes, I got deeper instantly with better form.
So, with oly shoes: - mid bar - slightly below parallel - feet slightly turned out, a little wider than shoulders width
It worked good but, I was getting hip pain at times, that I just cured with some stretches, but I didn't realize how bad it was actually getting. So eventually I had lots of hip pain, it lasted for a month or more, so I stopped going deep. I ended up changing my form to:
New form: - Close stance, feet neutral - regular shoes (mostly, sometimes olys) - mid bar - half squatting
So that led me to my biggest PR's in RVJ. I was still getting lots of hamstring in the movement, even more quad, and some glute. I focused on glutes using walking lunges and stepups.
My squatting now, as of like 3 days ago, is deep. If I feel alright I'll do my half squatting. I'm trying to go light though, so I'm not really going to be pushing the weight on my deep squatting.
So my current form is: - heels elevated in flats - mid or high bar - close stance, feet neutral - very deep (deeper than initial vid) - lighter weight, higher reps
OR for strength: - same as my half squat thing above
I'll get vid of my very deep squatting eventually, should look very different than anything I've put up before.
Side rant not aimed at anyone here: Most HS and College SC coaches SUCK!!! SUCK!!! oh they SUCK!! We get so many kids with problems that could have been prevented with solid coaching that it makes me sick!
This is a call em out to all HS SC coahces:
Get your head out of your ass. Cause Good Ol' Boyd did it in the 90's doesn;t make it right. Try something new like being open minded and learning something once in a while. Get your head out of your ass.
If your fucking kid cant squat right what makes you think, in your feeble mind, that you can coach a proper clean or snatch!
True dat mofo
ya..
I'm confused by the coaches that teach oly's, that don't know how to teach oly's or do them themselves.
That never made sense to me. Maybe it's similar to this basketball coach I had when I was like 10. This guy told us to shoot EVERYTHING off the backboard, even freethrows etc. He wore his shorts VERY high, higher than john stockton. I didn't listen to him, I wasn't retarded, but other people did. I think the point here is, how can you teach a jump shot if you can't do one yourself?
H.S. / College coaches that are USAW certified usually aren't going to let people perform clean pull reverse curls. They usually will hold athletes back, on a proper oly progression, while improving strength on the side, instead of just loading it up and acting retarded. That being said, for most athletes, I personally only think the pulls are needed.
Charlie Francis lists the half squat as a key exercises for sprinters and repeatedly talks about how important it was for Ben Johnson (steroids or not). Saying that sprinters shouldn't train like powerlifters is so obvious as to be completely meaningless. No coach worth anything has ever said that they should. Worst. Straw man. Ever. But just because a sprinter's training should revolve mostly around sprinting (um, duh) doesn't mean that squats are evil.
Ya but in the same instance, about ben & other sprinters concerning Francis, he considers squat/lifting as general, and sprinting taking precedence over it. Plenty of coaches out there are putting lifting BEFORE sprinting etc. I think that's what Korfist is getting at... So that might be a "duh" to us, but it isn't to many-many coaches. These coaches I'm referring to, are so into the weight-room numbers, that they let it fog their head. They'll let shitty form skate by because it's adding to the total.
I've personally run into this plenty of times. During summer camps, we had kids from one team, about 6 of them, all come in bragging about their squat numbers. All of them had squats over 350-400 lb. I of course didn't believe them, and had them pin squatting deep with proper form, a different pin for each kid so that form was adhered to, but needless to say not one of them got over 185 lb for 5. One of the kids showed me a video on his camera phone, it was a belted quarter squat with knees shifting forward. The s&c coach for that high school was a "former powerlifter". We have a member on this forum that knows exactly what i'm talking about, since he was on that team, but he'll never read this message (haha).
Now I know that's an extreme example, but it's part of what Korfist is talking about, since he deals with it very often.
A meathead approach really isn't that bad, but only if form isn't sacrificed in favor of number inflation.
but ya i luv teh squats.
btw, there's vid of ben johnson box squatting here:
Saw podiatrist today. Upshot: Gonna get some custom orthotics to wear pretty much all the time. Gonna keep going to MT. And gonna get surgery in October.
what kind of issues are the orthotics supposed to help? just the toe or pronation issues etc?
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Also, looking at x-rays of yourself is cool.
especially modern x-ray technology.. instantly shows up on bigscreens, excellent detail, etc.
Just got around to skimming that interview. Guess you kind of said it already, but this Korfist guy goes on the Mike Boyle Memorial Coaching Dumbass Hall of Fame. Figured I'd quote the offending passage in its entirety because really, you can't make this shit up:
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Special. Just special.
I have a coup[le pointsin CK's defense:
1. He is not anti-squat, rather he doesn;t like the way it is coached and performed. I would agree with him on this. You want to squat in a way that carries over to the field of play and doesn't create "compensation patterns". Everyone has to agree wtih the NSCA comment. They preach all you need is squats and olympics and anyone who disagrees is basically a nut.
2. Most importantly don't throw the baby out with the bath water. How many people give jay schroeder a chance with all of his ridiculous and BS claims (right adarqui) like adam achuletta holding a squat with like 500lbs in the ATG oposition for 5 minutes and then having to stand up with the bar? Or the russians, like verkhoshansky bondarchuck and zatsiorsky , who claimed that they had athletes doing depth jumps off a 20 ft tall building (this is true they used to claim it and that is prolly why jay used the example in that interview). Of course we know this was BS or didn;t agree with it but it never stopped anyone from reading supertraining (which is a way harder book than the inno-sport book). point being is that CK is a very bright coach and we can learn a lot from him, don;t let the squat thing or the fact that he challenges some deep seeded beliefs throw you off. I should note I am a bit biased because the athletes who I can get to use the CK's style of squatting see enormous improvements in performance indicators (like VJ and Sprint). The problem is attention to detail and ego. Most athletes can't spend time lifting light weights to relearn the squat.