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1996
@toddday great post.

1997
lmao . im nto suggesting turning a jumpshot into an ATG squat. I mean getting most of the contrib from closing the hip angle rather than upper body

Yeah mate I know that.

How much "extra" do you think you'll gain from closing the hip angle though? I still think you're looking in the wrong places for improvement.

Either way if you get a benefit out of it then good on you. There's probably more technically sound people on here who can provide better advice though 

I get close to zero out of it at the moment.. but if i can get say 70-80% from lower body and the rest from wrist/arms ... maybe

to be clear i do think most good shooters get most of their contrib from lower body .. i dont mean to say they should be dipping lower .. i'm saying i shud be dipping lower .. not merely bending at the waist (dont care about that) but focusing on lowering the hips into the start of the shott

I get what you're saying about the start of the shot and getting lower. That's more about the hopping into the shot as opposed to a 1-2 step.

1998
Either way if you get a benefit out of it then good on you. There's probably more technically sound people on here who can provide better advice though 

1999
lmao . im nto suggesting turning a jumpshot into an ATG squat. I mean getting most of the contrib from closing the hip angle rather than upper body

Yeah mate I know that.

How much "extra" do you think you'll gain from closing the hip angle though? I still think you're looking in the wrong places for improvement.

2000
Yeah idk how using more hips will help. Most top shooters have a slight lean or fade on their shot which makes involving the hips harder.

Also, probably not the best picture to illustrate the idea. Looks like he's in transition and has pulled up hence the hip angle.

You don't need to do heavy jump squats for shooting. Name 1 top shooter who has tremendous leg strength. Curry? Nash? Nowitzki? Kobe? I think you're looking in the wrong areas.

2001
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 07, 2016, 11:55:05 pm »
6/5/16

Didn't train legs. Have had a cold or something and have been getting rubbish sleep. Prob only 4 hours max. Took the day off to get some extra sleep in and worked from home.

Went to the courts to shoot around for an hour or so. Have decided to make myself more than an inside player. I have an inconsistent outside shot and have not focused on any particular technique work for years. Did some 1 handed shots for the first 20 mins or so just to get the rhythm. Worked my way away from the basket when I could hit 10 in a row. When I finally went to normal shooting I was hitting around 60-70% of shots which is great for me. Goal is to get my shot accurate enough to allow more drives as well. Worked for an hour total and felt pretty good before I left. Hit 5 3's in a row prior to leaving which was ok.

2002
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: May 07, 2016, 11:01:37 pm »
My brain is not working anymore. I think my IQ is under 100 for sure, right now. In fact, I don't think it would be quantifiable in any way. If I were to take a psychological test right now I would fail it.

I know people take words on the screen lightly, but trust me, this is authentic.

You may be having a psychotic episode.  It would be best to see a mental health specialist right now.  That you can recognize this is important.  Your IQ is probably not much lower than normal for you because even during psychosis smart people are still smart about most things but it can seem like that and be very frustrating to not have the clarity you are used to - it would be best to see someone. 

Waste of time and money. Doctors are for nothing, they don't actually help you. They just talk and do nothing, and take your money. #fact #truth #reality

Always refreshing to spend your life dedicated to helping people, take out loans forever, forego income, struggle through years of school/residency/fellowship and then be told that your career is a useless waste and that your in it for the money.  Why not go one further and bring up the conspiracy theory that the medical community and big pharma are in league together to hide the cure for cancer and keep you sick to keep selling medicine...  Why is it that we have learned that a bad experience with someone of one race is not grounds to discriminate against others of the same culture but can't show the same intelligence when it comes to a career choice?

1 word 5 syllables

2003
Looked over the tape of yesterdays shooting. I noticed 2 main things, 1)i shoot  the ball entirely from the wrist/arms and 2)with no hip involvement. So if i was a better shooter i'd be more hip and less wrist, this would make me a better player because 1 is affected easily by fatigue whereas 2 would not be. So i can improve my shooting considerably by .......... being ......... more....... hip ...... dominant.

Hips should really not be involved in shooting action. Depends on shot but if you hop or 1,2 into shot it's a little knee bend with minimal hip involvement.



Edit- I'm working on my shooting and I've found the game changers to be shooting off the index finger, keeping the follow through high and keeping the off hand high too. 

2004
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 07, 2016, 08:59:03 pm »
if nothing else, having mega sore glutes is cool because it makes you conciously aware of their activation all the way through the day, from getting out of bed to hitting the squat rack...and glute activation is always welcome.

like when i have sore VMOs, my knee's always feel better

Reiterating this for the 100th time - the dumbbell BBS I found out to be the BEST glute-soreness-giving exercise in existence, to me. Absolutely tremendous glute soreness. Not sure why, but it is like that.

Have you found the glute soreness to be productive though? As in does it translate into gains either in strength or muscle? Or is it just a pain in the ass  ;D (pun intended).

I don't think there is necessarily a direct benefit to any muscle being sore and you can definitely make gains in size and strength without soreness...

However, soreness indicates activation - and as we know DOMS is much easier to trigger in a muscle that hasn't been stretched under tension for awhile (think of the soreness you get after a long layoff or the first time you lift).   So if you are doing squats frequently for years and suddenly you move your foot placement or depth and you experience new soreness that's an indicator that despite doing this compound lift for years you were to some degree inactive in that muscle...

It's kind of shocking to me that two people can do the same compound movements and have completely different muscle activation patterns.  For those of us that have recovered from injury this is often a problem.  Additionally, you are going to have a personal bias for your movement patterns that depends on many factors and is probably not necessary to change completely...  However, adding another muscle (previously inhibited and inactive) to a movement can be an absolute game changer when it comes to injury prevention and to some extent performance.

In my case I really struggle to activate my quads.  Sprinting, squatting, deadlifts, front-squats, jumping, etc.  even after a long layoff result primarily in glute soreness, hamstring soreness, and even abdominal and calf soreness before quad soreness...  Unsurprisingly I don't have very strong quads and can suffer from jumpers knee because despite being inactive you will use your quads isometrically as breaks for landing or stopping as you have no other movement pattern with which to accomplish this***. 

The solution to this lack of activation is usually isolation work for the inactive muscle.  It really depends the level of inactivation - after surgery when it's completely inhibited this won't work as you can't even voluntarily activate it - so EMS stimulation can be used to get it firing again.   The absolute best thing you can do is find a closed chain exercise that still isolates the inactive muscle.  For the VMO/patellar tendon single leg eccentric pistols on a slant board are one of the best exercises you can do - like Gukl when I do these and feel sore in my quads (the only way I ever do) I also have less knee pain.  Skater jumps with an emphasis on the twisting can help people activate glute medius - which is a common inactive muscle. 

Try to keep your activation exercises higher rep and a little bit less intense if possible - you are going for muscle/strength alone with activation but remember this is a previously inactive pattern so the tendon that bears the load in this pattern might easily get overworked if intensity is too high...

*** Wanted to note that despite the fact that quads are our primary breaks I talked to a coach that has video of athletes who are so glute dominant that they find ways to get around this slightly...  When landing from a two footed jump you will see quad dominant athletes safely land without locked knees and descend into a squat to handle the shock...  Others will land with a fixed knee angle and bend the back and stretch the hamstrings on landing - I tend to do this and it's probably one of the more unsafe landings you can do...   Additionally, some sprinters will attempt to slow themselves by actually dragging their toe on the ground which will send shock on the tibialis and to the hips to keep some of the breaking force off the quads... A large price to pay and one of the many reasons why "quad-dominant" is not necessarily always a bad thing...  Ideally we should be both quad and hip-aware and able to use our hips to finish explosive movements and our quads to allow us not to get hurt...

This is awesome. I often have trouble isolating quads and tend to feel a lot in the TFL region.

Sprinting definitely gets me in the glutes and calves. Probably the only thing I can ever remember really frying my quads was tabata sprints on a bike.

2005
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 04, 2016, 08:04:47 pm »
Maybe that's the secret sauce. Aside from any strength gains you get that awareness that's required for everything.

Hey gukl, what's the thing that gives you VMO soreness the most?

2006
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Two Hands Two Feet
« on: May 04, 2016, 02:56:11 am »
Reiterating this for the 100th time - the dumbbell BBS I found out to be the BEST glute-soreness-giving exercise in existence, to me. Absolutely tremendous glute soreness. Not sure why, but it is like that.

Have you found the glute soreness to be productive though? As in does it translate into gains either in strength or muscle? Or is it just a pain in the ass  ;D (pun intended).

2007
Basketball / Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« on: May 04, 2016, 01:25:21 am »
Yes he 's had some unbelievable blocks recently.

Yeah inbounding was terrible.
Whatever happened to the old single file inbound formation? When did that go out of vogue?

dude great point.. i havn't seen that in a long time wtf? that's a pretty effective technique.. you don't know who is going to set the pick etc.

odd..

Yeah I've noticed quite a few teams having trouble inbounding lately. Maybe it's cause they can go back court now.

Btw, Lillard is on fire.

then the coach took him out to start the 4th.. to give him some 'rest'.. looked like a bad idea at the time; Lillard was ice cold when he got back in. I just don't think you take a guy like that out when he's knocking down everything.. They have a chance to steal game 2 @ GS and then they go flat in the 4th after they take him out (and he comes back in). Bad move imho.

Agreed. Could not believe he took him out. Dick coaching move. Comes back in and absolutely misses everything.

2008
Basketball / Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« on: May 04, 2016, 12:37:43 am »
Yes he 's had some unbelievable blocks recently.

Yeah inbounding was terrible.
Whatever happened to the old single file inbound formation? When did that go out of vogue?

dude great point.. i havn't seen that in a long time wtf? that's a pretty effective technique.. you don't know who is going to set the pick etc.

odd..

Yeah I've noticed quite a few teams having trouble inbounding lately. Maybe it's cause they can go back court now.

Btw, Lillard is on fire.

2009
Basketball / Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« on: May 03, 2016, 11:59:25 pm »
Yes he 's had some unbelievable blocks recently.

Yeah inbounding was terrible.
Whatever happened to the old single file inbound formation? When did that go out of vogue?

2010
Basketball / Re: NBA Playoffs: 2015-2016
« on: May 03, 2016, 11:04:34 pm »
Heat extremely lucky to escape with that one.

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