Movement efficiency for hands/arms. Is this a thing? How to test it and/ build it? I need it there too, as I watch footage from shooting around tonight. I hate myself so much lol.
I think you are. For one, you look less downwards, and your back seems to be straighter. The thing that bothers me is that you don't finish the extension in the air, you don't "pull" yourself in the air completely, or extend, like a cat, extend that spine and hips, you just "jerk" it a bit and that's it.
BS 6x125(LPR) JS 8x110, 8x150, 8x180, 8x70 DJ 2x6x21" BRoad jumps ~ 10 (before i got kicked off by soccer practice)
PP 6x64.5, 4x67(PR?), 6x65
DUNKS 3x6 (fuck off) Med ball 3x6x10kg (PR @ 8.5m on landing)
BW: 178.5
Notes: Proud of myself, did a set of 5 on BS and had the self discipline to leave it at that. Nothing was to be gained by forcing some meaningless PRs on squats. Saving it for track & dunking On depth jumps i'm kinda meh about this exercise. I will try to increase frequency and do them twice weekly. The first one will be "intense" 2x6 off 21" and the 2nd one can be "volume" 3x8 off 12-16". That will help me separate depth jumps into strength and speed days respectively. Hopefully that gives better bang for buck. Broad jumps .. hit a PR then had to leave immediately after. Got it on vid. Later realised i had left it on 720p and forgot to change to 1080p to get better quality. Oh well. Next time.. haha. Video below anyways. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjfCaZQIvSE ^whaddya reckon guys .. am i improving or nah?
Post mortem on yesterdays workout .. my glutes are pretty sore. I guess that's good sign for becoming a hip dominant athlete. When my quads are strong enough to squat 2xbw AND i am hip dominant and am efficient at moving, I'll be in a good place for peaking my lifetime athleticism. That's exciting. But a lot of hard work to do yet. Speaking of BW .. it's worrying how it's drifted higher than i'd like, i'd be ok with maintaining a leanish 77kg and recomping 'round there, but it bothers me weighing more than 80kg. Need to get that in check.
THat last workout (week?) was hard to recover from. I skipped training yesterday (!!) and i'm still pretty beat up today but will force a workout. Also ate a lot of food and slept a lot .. but to no avail .. broad jumps are hard on the body huh. Using the TENS unit on my calves and hips may have made them worse .. lol.. interesting..
Anything new seems especially hard on the body. For the noninitiated bounding will be really hard on tibials and all of lower leg... For me a squat day will leave me w days of soreness but bounding is hardly noticeable if volume is moderate. It's part of a warmup. You will adapt. Your not going high or far on your broad jumps and will quickly adapt. The single leg bounds are where you always need to be aware of volume constraints to recover. You will get there though.
Fair enough. I'll let my body adjust. I'm sitting here eating 300g of chicken breast in the meantime. Kill me now! I must admit some of the soreness i got was so weird .. like just under the ribs?! I didnt even know there was muscles there haha. And in general, my abdominals too: which was surprising, including obliques .. always wondered how sprinters end up with that weird muscle buildup there .. i guess i found a way to try myself! cool
BW: 179.9 (yikes) lmao .. i ran out of chalk and this guy gave me some satchels of stuff .. used it and then realised it's actually anti-chalk .. it's supposed to make for a frictionless surface :/ oops.
THat last workout (week?) was hard to recover from. I skipped training yesterday (!!) and i'm still pretty beat up today but will force a workout. Also ate a lot of food and slept a lot .. but to no avail .. broad jumps are hard on the body huh. Using the TENS unit on my calves and hips may have made them worse .. lol.. interesting..
I think that's great advice to LBSS, he wont find a more dedicated training partner to throw lobs than himself. Just speculating -- but is there is a chance he will be able to improve his vertical by adopting regular self lob based training, because he has to go chase the lobs so demanding more from his movement efficiency?
Tangentially, Todday interesting to read about your experience with changing the dunk hand so late in the game. Ive never done a dunk with my R hand before .. but ... since i am a RL plant jumper who has never got a game time dunk .. im tempted to explore dunking with my R hand! I can't palm the ball with my R hand. But never really tried to either and today I found I could work up to it by warming up to it by trying to palm my 6kg medball, then my bigger/slippier bball before attempting a normal grippier ball. Will work on my grip and try dunking with it on friday.
Part of my brain thinks does R hand or L hand matter when you can dunk doublehand? isn't that eliminating any advantage or disadvantage gained or lost by using one hand over the other? But when i think about it, my double hand dunks are done kinda L hand dominant anyway and it's possible i can gain by doing them R hand dominant? Maybe that's worth exploring. Will report back tmr if you're interesting in reading about my experience with it.
I'll be honest I never really gave it such earnest tries until I watched LBSS jump. But to me it's a godsend. You maybe eliminate some of the help when you double hand dunk but for me not all... There are days when I'm not jumping high and I can double hand dunk (jump up and dunk it cleanly w no tomahawk) but can't cleanly dunk w one hand... Which is weird.
For me at least jumping with the left hand back makes a huge difference. I just trained on vertec and easily PRed over 40" (touched 11'2") with my left hand. Didn't even feel great. In fact using the left has me doing a much more real sideways shoulders turned plant...
One thing I've always been told is I seem to need to jump higher than others to dunk. I will be able to hit my head on the backboard while someone else of the same height as me can't but can dunk easier than me... I think using the left hand levels the playing field for me. When I jump and touch w left I feel like I'm jumping maximally high and then reaching vs having my hand inside my body and worrying about timing...
I did try doing double hand dunks from the L side of the rim last night. Felt super clunky and i found myself being directly under the rim almost .. which sucks. I think i am turning them into dunks with L hand dominant which defeats the purpose of the exercise. to be R hand dominant. So will have to work on dunking with one hand. But it feels so unnatural .. and all those things you're describing as being improved with the L hand .. feel how my normal L hand dunks feel .. so idk if my R hand dunks will ever feel better than L?? I should def look into this further though. If i can increase my dunk range outside my comfort zone around the R side of the rim, it will allow me more chance of getting game time dunks .. especially when i am SO much more reactive on the L side of the court compared to the R.
Well there is a reason I told you to drill standing jumps before multiple but wth. Ok your not looking quad dominant.
Standing jumps ... as in SVJs? Broad jump singles? :S Went back through the posts in the last few pages and all i found was this:
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The broad jump itself is helpful because "slow" athletes don't know how to use their hips and gluteus. It's why you travel in the weird diagonal up on your dunks, no hip pop at extension. Learning how to use your hips to jump vertically is hard. So we start you going forward. It's much easier to use your hips in the horizontal plane than vertical... Broad jumps will allow you to get used of this and then you can translate it to jumping up. Don't worry about what the standing broad jump will do for your athleticism, your thinking too far ahead... Learn the skill. Become proficient. Then use it as a base to do exercises that will make you a much better athlete like jump, jump, dunk and many multi jump variations.
So master the broad jump. Then improve the multibroad jump. Also, jump, jump, dunk .. sounds intriguing.. !
Btw lately my lower body musculature has grown appreciably. Glutes and hams in particular are bigger and fleshier. I haven't got the big lifts to show for it though which is kinda disappointing .. but .. hopefully will get that too once i've got on a rhythm with training.
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But oh my god.... Do you ever have a neutral back? Vid quality isn't excellent but it looks like you somehow avoid ever getting neutral for everything you do... This can literally add a foot to your vertical if you fix it.
Sorry about the quality. Will try take better video over the coming sessions.. still working out how .. with angle and lighting and so on. Will improve. And about my neutral back or lack of .. yeah :/ Idk .. i awlays wondered how that would help my dunk .. cause i dont have it there either.. hmm, a foot would be amazing though. Fk! How should I fix this?