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1966
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 06, 2015, 04:04:46 am »
3-4 weeks later, let's see if i sticked to the plan:

Important tweaks:
-O-lifts : Keep doing them all year round, add snatches besides HPC.      V , good strength progress too.
-Pchain : i have been neglecting glutes work. Gotta keep regular with lunges/BSS.      V
-Core : constantly neglected. Must do as often as possible, abs and back work.      X , still neglected. NEEDS EMPHASIS, CORE IS WEAK
-Stretch/SMR: Has to become a daily thing, it ain't that hard.      X , No news here either, constantly neglected.
-Cardio : Also as much as possible, even LISS when beat from the weights, gotta stay as fit/lean as i can.      ? Was doing good but kinda fainting lately. Must revive.
-Jumps : I am never jumping enough, not even close. Must keep at it, even in the winter with SVJs/dropsteps/DJs at home.      X ,  no jumps at all lately, sucks
-Upper : pump up the volume. Add an accessory exercise for every main lift i do.      V , having good progress.
-Nutrition : Moar protein. I am at ~100g on off days, 150-200 at gym days. Gotta add 50g to that.      V , steady on the +200g train.
-Sleep : I am a night owl. Always have been. Not gonna change. But i could just deal with it more active, try to go to bed earlier, every hour is a gain.      V , much improved. Maybe needs a little more

Cardio, core, stretch, jump.
Cardio and jumps are easy to fix, they were note really neglected, just fell a little back last two weeks as victims of circumstances. Abs will be fixed too, easy.
But stretch and SMR, gosh, why do they feel so boring to me, why is it so hard to discipline myself to do a few stretches throughout the day?

1967
Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: October 06, 2015, 03:48:04 am »
Yes, it is amazing, every time i see such a jump from him i try to imagine being 270lbs and jumping off 1 leg, i would barely jump over newspaper.

Since we got there already, what about high-flying 350lbs, even off 2?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMX1FGwyr38" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMX1FGwyr38</a>

1968
Totally different thing.
Normal ones, main muscle worked is lower back ( erector spinae ).
Reverse ones, main muscle worked is butt ( gluteus maximus ).
Hamstrings are worked in both as 'secondary' muscle.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/ErectorSpinae/BWHyperextensionHead.html
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/GluteusMaximus/BWReverseHyperextension.html

1969
Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: October 05, 2015, 04:33:10 pm »
This is so true, it is sad we don't have vertec measurements for many athletic beasts. Plus for those that we do, we sure don't have a clue at what condition they were when they recorded it. Best example, Russel Westbrook, his draft measurement were 30'' SVJ / 36,5'' RVJ, yeah, right!

We get some sneak tips sometimes though:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7acETknB2I" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7acETknB2I</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9vO8o-zL_Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9vO8o-zL_Q</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itq4v3JMbt8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itq4v3JMbt8</a>

:headbang:

1970
Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: October 05, 2015, 01:09:50 pm »
Yeah, you guys may be right. I read somewhere that max vertec height is 12' and that is what i used for the calculations.
It was true in VC's case, as the official measurement was the same with my estimation, 36,5''
But i see there are many recorded max touches above 12' in the draft: http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=&year=All&source=All&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=13
So obviously there is a vertec higher than 12' , lol

Also, Derrick Jones is around 6'7'' now, so a 39'' jump would have his head at 118''. Cam angle is not so good causing distortion, but i think that 10'4'' head tip ( which would bring the vertec top to 12'6'' and this jump to 45'' ) is much more realistic.

But if we don't have a steady point ( e.g. the vertec top ) we are just guesstimating.

1971
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: October 05, 2015, 04:36:36 am »
Yes, i love that mental aspect of MEBM. Around rep 12 you change realm, lol.

What is your view on MEBM partials? Like using them for MEBM-ing the CNS, i am and will always be too weak to do that with deep squats ( my 20RM PR is 145 or sth ) but i reckon i can do 225x20 half.

1972
Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: October 05, 2015, 04:28:11 am »
This is a 12' touch. RVJ height depends on his reach, a quick search says it was around 8'9'' with 7' wingspan a year ago. If it is still the same, that jump was 39''.

1973
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 04, 2015, 12:07:30 pm »
3 October 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~86kg, fake, AM without breakfast coming from a light dinner
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER SNATCH
5@22,5kg ( +2,5 kg rep )
5@32,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@37,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
3@42,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
2@47,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -1 rep ) , all time 2RM  :personal-record:
-Awesome!

SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
3@80kg
MSEM :
1@90kg
1@95kg ( +2,5 kg )
1@100kg ( +5 kg )
1@100kg ( +2,5 kg )
1@100kg
1@102,5kg
-Meh, good progress but  i wanted 105. Wasn't happening, weak day plus too much upping on first reps. 102,5 barely got up.

SEATED NEUTRAL GRIP DB OHP:
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand
10@18kg each hand ( +1 rep )
9@18kg each hand
-Nice.

SEATED REAR DELT FLY MACHINE:
12@50lbs
10@65lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
10@65lbs ( +5 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
-This machine has two plate series, one for 15lbs increments and one that adds only 5 or 10.
The small one is broken so i can only do 15lbs jumps. 50lbs is too easy, 65lbs too hard. Ill catch up with 65.

DEAD HANG NEUTRAL GRIP PULLUPS:
7@BW
7@BW ( +1 rep )
5@BW ( -1 rep )
NEUTRAL GRIP LAT PULLDOWN: 15@140lbs ( +2 reps )
-Nice.

SEATED PAUSED CALF RAISE:
15@52,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
15@52,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
13@52,5kg ( +2,5 kg ) , ( -2 reps )
-Nice.

No breakfast screw me up, i felt too weak. Still pretty good for a 'bad' day.

1974
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 02, 2015, 02:49:38 pm »
You are both right, achieving a windmill is a function of both things:
-If you improve the speed you do the windmill motion, you will end the motion at a better position, so you can dunk it ( if it takes too long you will be on the way down ).
-If you improve your jump(hangtime) you do the same thing, you can take a little more time to do the windmill motion and still be at a dunkable height when you finish it.
-If you make your reach higher or the rim lower, you lessen the vert you need to dunk, so again you have better chances of dunking it on your way down.
Of course those do not apply to the extreme ends. So if your vert is 10'' and you try to windmill 8', you won't, because there is no time for you to complete the windmill motion. But for 'normal' jumps ( 30'' and above ) , 10'' of reach, or 10'' of lower rim, or 0.25 seconds of faster windmill motion can make the difference between dunking it or not.

2 October 2015

7 Days Vertical Jump Cure routine
Foam roll : IT bands, quads, hamstrings, glutes.
Stretch : groin, quads, hamstrings, hip flexors, calves.

Looks like quads are fine now. Looks like hamstrings/hip flexors tightness and abs strength are the weak links.
 

1975
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 02, 2015, 04:58:40 am »
1 October 2015

BBall was cancelled because the roof leaked water or sth, FFFFUUUUU.

Took the chance to add the missing beach-work of this week ( because of Monday gym session cut short ).

CURL: 2x12 @ 10kg each hand
HAMMER CURL : 2x12 @ 10kg each hand
CONCENTRATION CURL : 2x12 each hand @ 10kg
UPRIGHT ROW : 3x12 @ 10kg each hand
LATERAL RAISE : 3x12 @ 10kg each hand
TRICEP KICKBACK : 4x12 each hand @ 10kg

1976
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 01, 2015, 12:36:41 pm »
On the other hand, we didn't have his injuries, nor are we 6'7''/220lbs. Anyway.

30 September 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~86,75kg
Soreness : quads and glutes , little
Injuries/aches : none

RDL:
8@82,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
8@82,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
8@82,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Great.

BB LUNGE:
6 each leg @ 40kg
6 each leg @ 40kg
6 each leg @ 40kg
-Meh. I can go heavier but quads are always unrecovered from Monday squats and they hurt too much ( the front leg quad at eccentric ).

BENCH PRESS:
5@60kg
5@60kg
5@60kg ( +1 rep )
15@50kg ( +2,5 kg )
-Great.

INCLINE (45') DB PRESS:
12@16kg each hand ( +1 rep )
12@16kg each hand ( +1 rep )
12@16kg each hand ( +1 rep )
-Great.

DEAD HANG PULLUPS:
7@BW ( +1 rep )
6@BW
6@BW
LAT PULLDOWN : 15@150lbs
-Nice.

1977
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 01, 2015, 04:35:21 am »
Well, if we suppose that vertec is set to its maximum top (12') , it looks like he lost just one vane, so it would be a 11'11½'' touch. His reach is 8'11'' so yup, adarq was pretty accurate for a glance estimation, that is 36-37.

And now some blasphemy :
Unless that was an SVJ, age-vs-vertical-wise i am not impressed. He is VC. I got my fat unathletic junk-eating smoking drinking ass to 30'' SVJ / 35'' RVJ at 37 years old.

1978
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Eric's Journal
« on: October 01, 2015, 04:17:31 am »
Sorry for the continued thread hijack, but indeed decathlon is out of this world, those athletes are rightfully called 'the best athletes in the world'.

Here is the performance of the 25th in the 2012 olympics, pay attention, not the first, the 25th, one of the 'worse', an 'unknown loser':

100m 10.95 s , long jump 7.12 m , shot put 15.17 m , high jump 1.96 m , 400m 50.13 s ,100m hurdles 14.87 s, discus 46.43 m , pole vault 4.20 m , javelin 50.16 m , 1500m 5:03.14 min

Get the point? :P

PS : That doesn't take much away from Froning's beastliness, guy is a monster. But yes, Olympic athletes and specifically decathlon ones are something different.

1979
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: September 29, 2015, 04:49:48 am »
28 September 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~86,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER CLEAN
5@20kg
5@30kg
3@40kg
3@50kg
3@60kg ( +1 rep ) , ties lifetime 3RM  :personal-record:
-Wow. Not even true 3RM. Took me 4 months last year to get there on a good day. Amazing.

ATG PAUSED SQUAT:
5@75kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@75kg ( +2,5 kg )
5@75kg ( +2,5 kg )
MEBM SQUAT ( no pause ) : 20@57,5kg ( +2 reps )
-Every time i think i'll stall with the load increase, yet it is still not even max here either.
Modified MEBM strategy. Before i would go in '1-shy-of-fail' clusters, like 8-4-3-2-2-1. Now i did 5-5-5-5. Much better. Stole it from KF. gotta learn from the elite ones ;)

DB SHRUGS:
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
12@20kg each hand
-Was supposed to do bench and pullups but i was short on time so i'll rearrange/improvise this week. Shrugs are fun.

PAUSED STANDING CALF RAISE ( 1:1:5 ):
8@BW+75kg ( +5 kg )
8@BW+75kg ( +5 kg )
8@BW+75kg ( +5 kg )
-Strong.

Good sessions keep coming. Hope it lasts, feels great.

1980
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: September 26, 2015, 01:42:14 pm »
26 September 2015

Bodyweight@session : ~87,25kg, bloated
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

HANG POWER SNATCH
5@20kg
5@30kg
5@35kg
3@40kg
3@45kg ( +1 rep ) , ties all time 3RM  :personal-record:
-Awesome.

SQUAT:
5@20kg
5@40kg
5@60kg
3@80kg
MSEM :
1@90kg
1@92,5kg ( +2,5 kg )
1@95kg ( +2,5 kg )
1@97,5kg ( +5 kg )
1@100kg ( +5 kg )
1@102,5kg ( +7,5kg )
-Awesomeness. Good for more.

SEATED NEUTRAL GRIP DB OHP:
10@18kg each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
10@18kg each hand ( +2 kg per hand )
9@18kg each hand ( +2 kg per hand ) , ( -1 rep )
9@18kg each hand ( +2 kg per hand ) , ( -1 rep )
-Great.

SHOULDER DB FLY:
SEATED REAR DELT FLY MACHINE:
12@50lbs
12@55lbs
12@60lbs
-Decided to switch, i was not hitting the rear delts at all while i was hitting the lateral ones already.

DEAD HANG NEUTRAL GRIP PULLUPS:
7@BW ( +1 rep )
6@BW
6@BW
NEUTRAL GRIP LAT PULLDOWN: 13@140lbs ( +10 lbs ) , ( -2 reps )
-Nice.

SEATED PAUSED CALF RAISE:
15@50kg ( +3 reps )
15@50kg ( +3 reps )
15@50kg ( +3 reps )
-Burn!

Another great session, i'm loving it.

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