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1966
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 23, 2016, 10:56:09 am »
I'm completely joking of course. I will keep the movement efficiency experiment on-going. I wrote in my log from yesterday's sprints that something had changed since I last sprinted (sometime mid March). So that's promising but also, it came out of the blue after I expressed my frustration from the bounds being super hard to improve and getting no sense of how on earth they could be improved either given i was pouring EVERYTHANG into every single attempt. Repeating them over and over and expecting them to change makes no sense. Raptor is stupid as usual, shooting 3s and doing a ME thing are completely different things.

Re movement efficiency (re)training,  will see where it goes, if anywhere in the longer term. It's kinda disappointing that there aren't more tangible gains from efficiency training yet but if this is the first sign of change, i'm pleased with the promise for now. It's *something* at least I can say this has come out of my recent training even though cause and effect is murky and it's hard to say which thing I did in training caused the changes i observed!

But having said that, my dunking / vertical hasn't gone anywhere good. Worse actually. It's kinda meh atm, I can blame that on squats though, have ramped them up lately so that might explain it. Who knows. It's all bad. I'm not worried about that cause my dunk will prob stay the same, more or less, but if i can move better i may get game time dunks later down the track. Yeah not much to bank on but it would be amazing. Watching the playoffs and it makes me wish I could do things like this:


https://streamable.com/32vz (hey adarqui can we get these embeddable?). YOutube

And ther was the play where harden gave Dwight an OOP that was just beautiful.. so much power. I never tried getting someone to OOP like this without an angle, but i'd love to now. it looks amazing. I dont know where in the hilights vid it is but if you find it please link it at the right time.

Full highlights:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m8X0juq6J4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m8X0juq6J4</a>

1967
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 23, 2016, 06:15:46 am »
OHP 3x3x60
BP 2x1x90(LPR), 3x6x80(LPR)
WCU 3x103(+20kg, LPR), 3x98, 6x93, 6x88
LPD 3x8
CROW 3x8
CURL 3x8

a solid upper body workout tonight before holiday.. going to do a whole load of volume then rest/recover and growwwwwwww.

1968
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 23, 2016, 02:01:04 am »
Mate are you still after movement efficiency?

I think iam more about movement inefficiency. Might just own it instead of fighting against my core traits? I wanna see how big and slow I can really be while still dunking on fools. I'm envisioning weighing 300lb in 12 months time, superbly inefficient but also benching bodyweight. What do you reckon? Do-able?

1969
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 22, 2016, 08:01:29 am »
Anyway enough about that. Moving on. With my new bar i can try PR my hang powercleans. I'll start tonight. At least that I know i can improve over time regularly .. haha. My PR was just under 90kg i think, i can get that up to 100kg in 8wks it will be a good start. Leggo.

1970
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 22, 2016, 07:37:11 am »
Give it a rest, compare apples and oranges and make another pointless analogy again, I dare you.

1971
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 22, 2016, 05:21:11 am »
BS 2x6x125 (LPR), 3x2x130(LPR), 3x127.5(LPR)
BCR 20x110, 20x150

Broad jumps, 5kg medball throws
HPC 6x50 (LPR; new ex), 6x60, 3x70, 1x80(PR; first bodyweight HPC?), 3x72.5(LPR)
HIIT sprints 6x(19s on, 20s off)
TM run - 1km in 8 mins

BW: 175.71 (LPR; back under 80kg ... thankfully!)

Squat notes:
I would have to look it up (and i wont) but pretty sure that isn't just a local PR for 6 but a global one at sub 80kg bodyweight.

Bounds notes:
PR my frustration at this exercise. Sigh

Conditioning notes:
Ok you fat cunt, time to restart conditioning work. I forced myself to do some sprints .. and something has definitely changed .. i can't say what but my movement / fluidity or something else is not how it used to be. Interesting. I'm not saying it was carryover from doing broad jumps .. but it may be? Or it cud be the hamstring/glute mass i've added .. or the PC chain exercises i've been doing? Or all of the above? Something is definitely different. I havent done sprints in like 6-7 weeks, which is the tantalising thing. I wanna see this out.

1972
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 22, 2016, 01:33:09 am »
If you just started squats for the first time and were doing them at 3x8 (or whatever), you would be surprised if you stalled within 2 weeks! The difference is the broad jumps are ME and the squats wouldnt normally be done ME.

1973
You can test these things out with a weighted vest. The first time i used one with +10kg and did some dunks then took it off, i was flying around and jumping like i was on another planet with a different gravitational constant. But this effect wore out over time, it stopped having a potentiating effect eventually.. not sure why future dunk sessions were more earth like. Like my body figured out what was going on and kept the CNS from getting fooled..

1974
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 21, 2016, 08:57:30 am »
He stared up into the dewy sky now littered with stars, wiped his brow and psyched himself up for his next attempt. Like magic, his quads dishibited, his glutes engaged for the first time, propelling him across the ground in 3 long bounds, he had finally set a PR behind him. How did it happen and more importantly what could he do to repeat it? He had done the same thing over and over, a thousand times before. It was a random mutation which unlocked in him a movement efficiency never before seen. Never to be seen again, he grimaced, the lens of his camera had retracted, propped on 3 shaky legs sat unevenly in the unruly grass. NO would ever believe him and the recording had cut out just as he began the rep, recalling @adarqui who had told him to be aggressive and not take so long to begin. And he repeats the insanity, expecting this time things would be different, but not today.

1975
^Yep. Makes me yearn for for the 90s when small was hot and fat was not  :rant:

1976
loll... that's your prerogative. Personally i dont find big fat posteriors on a women very attractive. Gross! Rather much smaller but firm, shapely and well developed.. haha.

1977
Stubborn fat for women isn't abdominal .. it's thighs and hips.. but yeah. women who train will often have a sixpac way before they have lean butt/thighs/hips. src: instagrams

Nobody is objecting to that distribution.

Actually Dreyth was saying abdominal fat is troublesome for women but their body will burn that off preferentially so there's no point even trying to spot reduce because fat will come off there easily/immediately. Blood flow is good there compared to hips/thighs etc. But women shudnt even store fat there in the first place.. it takes a lot of bad eating, lack of activity and drinking alcohol to accumulate fat there :/

Anecdotally .. i found if i start playing bball regularly after a layoff, my body does use stomach bodyfat preferentially even if i'm not consciously dieting. just my experience, not sure why that happens.

1978
Stubborn fat for women isn't abdominal .. it's thighs and hips.. but yeah. women who train will often have a sixpac way before they have lean butt/thighs/hips. src: instagrams

1979
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 21, 2016, 12:24:13 am »
I will try to clear the confusion haha. I mean for an exercise to be effective for training as opposed for testing it should be improvable .. not necessarily weekly but close enough to it. I just don't see how i improve my throws or bounds measurements regularly? I'm sure you will see all these glaring fixable faults but when im doing the exercise,  i'm doing my best to better my PR .. not thinking about all the different flaws that might or might not be occurring at the instant i'm doing it. With the 3Bro -- i pretty much stalled last workout, i dont think i added a 1cm to my previous PR effort done on friday! There was improvement from day 0 sure, but beyond that, it's behaving more like a test whose performance i am replicating than a training thing which i'm improving my performance at regularly and measurably. With the medball throws they're landing in the same exact spot there's not a crater there lol. Does that make sense?

Btw at 1cm/week improvement .. i'll reach the 10m broadjump goal in ......... just under 3 years. Yikes. If i can get that to 10cm a week i would be happy cause that brings the time frame down to 3 months .. woooho!

Is this something you have to deal with as a sprinter where you might not see changes in months and then boom something happens and you get some improvement out of the blue? I feel like i'm going through the motions and without seeing the results .. it's kinda demotivating .. i'm not expecting carry over to the basketball court instantly but at least at the exercise i shud be improving to keep myself driving towards goals. I didn't realise it would be so hard to get improvements but i guess i should have expected that.


1980
No, but it's an old thread and I wondered if anybody changed opinions since then or has anything to add/retract.

Well, it's not really for most ppl, who should just do a normal diet (10-25% caloric deficit + exercise) to get leaner. It's for ppl who have that last 450g of fat (say) to lose and the body is fighting hard to hold on it, so much so it wud rather burn muscle mass for energy than mobilise that "stubborn" fat. In that case blood flow is an issue cause that fat is "stubborn" .. so by heating the area you might help that somewhat (since it improves blood flow). But this again is not an issue for 99.99% of us who can lose fat easily just by simple diet and cardio (say).There's other tricks to mobilise that stubborn fat too .. involving supplements and exercise protocols which are pure torture (Fasted cardio is involved).

 Ive never been in the stubborn fat range myself.. and i had a sixpac (some 5 weeks) ago. It's just a non issue for all but the leanest ppl looking to get leaner..

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