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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 22, 2016, 08:01:29 am »
Anyway enough about that. Moving on. With my new bar i can try PR my hang powercleans. I'll start tonight. At least that I know i can improve over time regularly .. haha. My PR was just under 90kg i think, i can get that up to 100kg in 8wks it will be a good start. Leggo.

1967
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 22, 2016, 07:37:11 am »
Give it a rest, compare apples and oranges and make another pointless analogy again, I dare you.

1968
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 22, 2016, 05:21:11 am »
BS 2x6x125 (LPR), 3x2x130(LPR), 3x127.5(LPR)
BCR 20x110, 20x150

Broad jumps, 5kg medball throws
HPC 6x50 (LPR; new ex), 6x60, 3x70, 1x80(PR; first bodyweight HPC?), 3x72.5(LPR)
HIIT sprints 6x(19s on, 20s off)
TM run - 1km in 8 mins

BW: 175.71 (LPR; back under 80kg ... thankfully!)

Squat notes:
I would have to look it up (and i wont) but pretty sure that isn't just a local PR for 6 but a global one at sub 80kg bodyweight.

Bounds notes:
PR my frustration at this exercise. Sigh

Conditioning notes:
Ok you fat cunt, time to restart conditioning work. I forced myself to do some sprints .. and something has definitely changed .. i can't say what but my movement / fluidity or something else is not how it used to be. Interesting. I'm not saying it was carryover from doing broad jumps .. but it may be? Or it cud be the hamstring/glute mass i've added .. or the PC chain exercises i've been doing? Or all of the above? Something is definitely different. I havent done sprints in like 6-7 weeks, which is the tantalising thing. I wanna see this out.

1969
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 22, 2016, 01:33:09 am »
If you just started squats for the first time and were doing them at 3x8 (or whatever), you would be surprised if you stalled within 2 weeks! The difference is the broad jumps are ME and the squats wouldnt normally be done ME.

1970
You can test these things out with a weighted vest. The first time i used one with +10kg and did some dunks then took it off, i was flying around and jumping like i was on another planet with a different gravitational constant. But this effect wore out over time, it stopped having a potentiating effect eventually.. not sure why future dunk sessions were more earth like. Like my body figured out what was going on and kept the CNS from getting fooled..

1971
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 21, 2016, 08:57:30 am »
He stared up into the dewy sky now littered with stars, wiped his brow and psyched himself up for his next attempt. Like magic, his quads dishibited, his glutes engaged for the first time, propelling him across the ground in 3 long bounds, he had finally set a PR behind him. How did it happen and more importantly what could he do to repeat it? He had done the same thing over and over, a thousand times before. It was a random mutation which unlocked in him a movement efficiency never before seen. Never to be seen again, he grimaced, the lens of his camera had retracted, propped on 3 shaky legs sat unevenly in the unruly grass. NO would ever believe him and the recording had cut out just as he began the rep, recalling @adarqui who had told him to be aggressive and not take so long to begin. And he repeats the insanity, expecting this time things would be different, but not today.

1972
^Yep. Makes me yearn for for the 90s when small was hot and fat was not  :rant:

1973
loll... that's your prerogative. Personally i dont find big fat posteriors on a women very attractive. Gross! Rather much smaller but firm, shapely and well developed.. haha.

1974
Stubborn fat for women isn't abdominal .. it's thighs and hips.. but yeah. women who train will often have a sixpac way before they have lean butt/thighs/hips. src: instagrams

Nobody is objecting to that distribution.

Actually Dreyth was saying abdominal fat is troublesome for women but their body will burn that off preferentially so there's no point even trying to spot reduce because fat will come off there easily/immediately. Blood flow is good there compared to hips/thighs etc. But women shudnt even store fat there in the first place.. it takes a lot of bad eating, lack of activity and drinking alcohol to accumulate fat there :/

Anecdotally .. i found if i start playing bball regularly after a layoff, my body does use stomach bodyfat preferentially even if i'm not consciously dieting. just my experience, not sure why that happens.

1975
Stubborn fat for women isn't abdominal .. it's thighs and hips.. but yeah. women who train will often have a sixpac way before they have lean butt/thighs/hips. src: instagrams

1976
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 21, 2016, 12:24:13 am »
I will try to clear the confusion haha. I mean for an exercise to be effective for training as opposed for testing it should be improvable .. not necessarily weekly but close enough to it. I just don't see how i improve my throws or bounds measurements regularly? I'm sure you will see all these glaring fixable faults but when im doing the exercise,  i'm doing my best to better my PR .. not thinking about all the different flaws that might or might not be occurring at the instant i'm doing it. With the 3Bro -- i pretty much stalled last workout, i dont think i added a 1cm to my previous PR effort done on friday! There was improvement from day 0 sure, but beyond that, it's behaving more like a test whose performance i am replicating than a training thing which i'm improving my performance at regularly and measurably. With the medball throws they're landing in the same exact spot there's not a crater there lol. Does that make sense?

Btw at 1cm/week improvement .. i'll reach the 10m broadjump goal in ......... just under 3 years. Yikes. If i can get that to 10cm a week i would be happy cause that brings the time frame down to 3 months .. woooho!

Is this something you have to deal with as a sprinter where you might not see changes in months and then boom something happens and you get some improvement out of the blue? I feel like i'm going through the motions and without seeing the results .. it's kinda demotivating .. i'm not expecting carry over to the basketball court instantly but at least at the exercise i shud be improving to keep myself driving towards goals. I didn't realise it would be so hard to get improvements but i guess i should have expected that.


1977
No, but it's an old thread and I wondered if anybody changed opinions since then or has anything to add/retract.

Well, it's not really for most ppl, who should just do a normal diet (10-25% caloric deficit + exercise) to get leaner. It's for ppl who have that last 450g of fat (say) to lose and the body is fighting hard to hold on it, so much so it wud rather burn muscle mass for energy than mobilise that "stubborn" fat. In that case blood flow is an issue cause that fat is "stubborn" .. so by heating the area you might help that somewhat (since it improves blood flow). But this again is not an issue for 99.99% of us who can lose fat easily just by simple diet and cardio (say).There's other tricks to mobilise that stubborn fat too .. involving supplements and exercise protocols which are pure torture (Fasted cardio is involved).

 Ive never been in the stubborn fat range myself.. and i had a sixpac (some 5 weeks) ago. It's just a non issue for all but the leanest ppl looking to get leaner..

1978
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 20, 2016, 11:54:16 am »
RE hip extension on jumps -- I consciously tried to use my "hips" during a dunk tonight .. and ... i found myself reflexively doing an air Jordan ^TM thing in the air. Is this kinda what we're getting that? I know i dont do that "leg kick" thing others do on their jumps .. i know it's supposed to help you jump higher but ive never really done it except by accident once or twice .. (i have a vid of me from last year doing it unwittingly, i can upload to illustrate).  And i guess if i can do those on broad jumps i will go further? Interesting. Can't wait to try it out next time.

1979
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 20, 2016, 11:37:36 am »
Movement efficiency for the arms is def a thing.  But if your a basketball player it can be frustrating.  Look at Raptors comments in my journal and my jumps without the ball and with it.   Mastering arms is great but when you hold a basketball you might have to relearn to maximize a new non optimal arm swing...

In fact if you look at my journal that vertical was build by literally all bounding and sprinting a just a month or so of low volume infrequent vertical specific work (mostly cause my knees don't like vertical landings).  So the bounding is "base" but not as "base" as squats.  What I mean is bounding itself probably will add very little to your vert, but when you go back to training it you will quickly make gains.  And you will have immediate payoff for other sports movements especially w single leg bounding and skater style forward bounds. 

As far as your broad jumps.  From what I see its 100x better than the last one but still pretty bad as far as hip extension being absent.  Back is straight but no hip hyper extension whatsoever... But given that you went from a 2 out of 10 to a 7 in one week might not make sense to give you coaching yet... If you bound another meter farther next time I bet it will be because you have figured it out yourself.... Otherwise I'll give you some cues...

That gives me an idea. I cud use the medball and do like throws with one hand and stuff. But i'm really looking forward to finishing up with 2 leg bounds (==broad jumps?) and focusing on SL bounds. I dont wanna jump from one thing to another and be useless at everthing, want to master broad jumps first. Then i'll focus on SL. I think SL will do more for my basketball athleticism cause lets face it, someone as slow as me has to do everything SL since i'm already moving in slow motion and DL movements are just too slow at game speed. I'm a better at jumping of DL of course but most jumps on the court (all?) are done SL if i'm being honest with myself

1980
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: April 20, 2016, 11:28:19 am »
@adarqui

You know that might actually restore my faith in depth jumps as a staple exercise if i had a concrete measurable goal for it. I don't have a place to do jumps at a rim (unfortunately). However. maybe i cud take a milk crate or something to the courts and try that? It wouldn't be high but portable. Or i could try rig something up at home with string. That might be fun. Hmmm! :)

I'm kinda cooling on broad jumps and medball throws. I like doing broad jumps a lot, because it's something new but i want to know how i will improve from 8.5m to 10m and possibly 11m which is what i've been set as a decent goal and dream goal respectively I think they're a good way to test an athlete .. but do they improve one? Does anything? Is it just squats all the way down .. and i just need to man up and add some plates to my PR? I hate myself again x2. But seriously, how am i gonna add 1.5m to my broadjump .. is it just going to happen by practising? Or do i need to gain some strength / muscle mass and then it will happen? This is so confusing. I stopped using the 6kg ball today though, cant be bothered measuring out that far. The 10kg is nice and easier to measure and i can track and measure landings fine on my own without a training partner, mainly cause they fall within the same range as my broadjumps on the printed markers of the field..

Thanks it was a nice day! And i prefer doing track stuff at that time .. the grass isnt wet, like it was tongiht when i did the medball throws. damn near lost one overhead which sucked cause it was slippery af. Will make the change from here on, 1080p and in daylight for bounds/throws.


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