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Quote from: Flander on September 28, 2010, 03:06:54 pm

Quote from: BMully on September 24, 2010, 06:47:06 pm

Quote from: Natho on September 23, 2010, 10:04:22 pm

Quote from: BMully on September 23, 2010, 10:00:12 pm

just a thought, maybe he had a fluke moment..I had some insane jumps when i am super relaxed, like 5-10inches more than normal jump due to being unnaturally calm for no cause

5-10 inches??? 

I've had that with ~2-3 inches but a 10 inch increase out of the blue from being relaxed.



I'm not attcking you BMully, everyone is different and i just felt like posting the pic 

i don't lie, i got super relaxed in a game and almost dunked with 2 hands, head was heigh as hell, this was 8th grade

Yes yes. And I won Mr Olympia. It was just a fluke. Im back to fat now again.

that is a physical change, not possible to do just like that..in times of extreme pressure or extreme relaxation, people can get super human abilities..that is how i grabbed rim as 13year old who could only normally get half way up, this one jump i got rim, then it took a while before i got it legit everytime...the cns is responsible for strength and power, we develope it to allow more, but it is always capable of that power

Congrats, man, closing in on Machinist status, lol.

CNS training right there man! with the dog! lol. good thing it didn't jump or something!

Stretch to Win (http://www.amazon.com/Stretch-Win-Ann-Frederick/dp/0736055290) is an excellent book. Its purpose is to lay out the foundations of the authors' methodology and then describe how to apply those principles for personal use. The principles are described first. Then there is a quick, well-written anatomy lesson that goes into basics about different types of fascia and muscle tissue and how they respond to stress (whether it be good or bad). Then the authors describe a self-evaluation that the reader is supposed to undertake before proceeding with the last part of the book. That's all laid out very clearly, with each step broken down and some helpful cues given. After that the authors give detailed descriptions of each layer of stretching, from the core stretches (which I'm doing now), down the chain of to sport-specific stretches.

Couple of interesting takeaways:
1) Stretching to a count (10 seconds, 20 seconds, whatever) is dumb. Your muscle doesn't know what a second is so setting an arbitrary length of time makes no sense. It's better to cycle stretching with your breath, pushing a little bit with the exhalations and relaxing with the inhalations, until you feel the muscle release some of its tension.
2) It's important to stretch the core (hips) first before moving to the extremities, and to stretch muscles/tissues that just cross one joint before moving to multi-joint muscles/tissues.

Couple of downsides:
1) This isn't really a fault of the book, because I can't imagine how you would describe it in writing, but I've had a hard time knowing when to stop a particular stretch, i.e. when the muscle has "released its tension." But this may simply be a result of my muscles being super, super tight!
2) The stretch descriptions are generally adequate to very good, but a couple of the ones I've followed so far either aren't explicit enough or I'm too dumb to understand what to do.

On the whole, though, a really, really worthwhile book. I'm looking forward to incorporating a little bit of sense into my stretching and seeing how my flexibility, posture, performance, etc. improve. And for $13.57 on Amazon, the price is right.

One last thing: A lot of fitness-industry products will get "testimonials" from "pro athletes." These tend to be minor-league types, or obscure Pan Am games qualifiers or whatever. And often, the athlete met the product-seller one time, or they had a phone consult, and the product-seller tries to say that the athlete is a client, or a friend, or whatever. The athletes giving testimonials for Stretch to Win are legit high-level pros, and they're obviously really clients. Donovan McNabb is the model for some of the stretches at the end of the book and you know these people don't have enough cash lying around to afford McNabb's endorsement rates. Anyway, testimonials only mean so much, but these are still impressive. Eric Cressey may train some minor-leaguers and may have spent some time with Curt Schilling after he retired, but Ann and Chris Frederick work extensively with elite-level pros at the peak of their careers. Think Al Vermeil or Dan Pfaff. These people obviously know their shit.

290x1-went to try for a second rep and something thats been in my upper right pec/shoulder finally tore, IDK if I tore my pec, but might be too close to the shoulder. lol
not too worried about it, benching is gay anyway and I think I can still press vertically.