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1906
Hm... collapsing at your core could actually mean you lack your former dorsiflexion. So in order not to lose your balance, you bent forward with your chest when you plant deep. Just a thought, I don't know if that's the case.

1907
Yeah but my point was that you don't "need" to use the half squat AT ALL.

If you have problems full squatting, it's better to discover what your mobility issues are and solve them, instead of giving up and saying "full squatting is not for me" IMO. A butt wink usually means the lack of foot dorsiflexion. You can also experiment with different stance widths, low or high bar and so on.

And yeah, the point about having the bar still on your back on the concentric phase is a good one. But the question is - do you need that?

1908
How quick are the donkey ankle bounces? It's really amazing how quick they are for me... a TON of Achilles contribution (I also get up VERY high on them). Imagine how much I'd jump if I were weighing 40 kg haha

1909
Haha no but the more I read through that thread, the more I'm on Rippetoe's side.

The half squat really has very little positives in terms of specificity over the depth jump - the depth jump is MUCH more specific from so many standpoints, that you don't need to half squat. The only upperhand the half squat has over the depth jumps is that is less impactful. Since you can't depth jump like crazy ad infinitum because the stress will accumulate, you can use the half squat to remove some of that landing stress.

But otherwise, the depth jump:

1) Has more speed than the half squat;
2) Has more load than the half squat;
3) You're always going to be jumping from your more "explosive" position vs. trying to find that position with a half squat;
4) You actually jump in the air;
5) You actually hip hyperextend;
6) You get more tendon contribution;
7) You get more calf contribution;
8) Can be adjusted PERFECTLY to fit your needs by measuring which box height gives you the best jump height. The same thing cannot be said for the half squat, where you have to "guess" what weight would be the best.

So considering all these factors, why would you ever bother with half squats (other than to get less impact on your body)? You should do full squats to build strength and depth jumps to "build" specificity.

And I also disagree with Andrew about aiming for a 3x half squat or so - I would rather focus on speed if I were to use the half squat to replace the depth jump.

1910
From my forum:

http://www.insane-athletics.com/forum/index.php?topic=83.msg185#msg185

Will write an full-fledged article about this after I finish my one-leg jumping series.

1911
It was only 0.7 s slower because running submax made you relax more, and on a longer distance race that is important. And it's also important as a training effect.

1912
http://startingstrength.com/resources/forum/showthread.php?t=24176&s=c0180eeb6b5bc3458ff7920fc04b4fb8

I'm starting to read this again 3 years later and see what my perspective is about the subject. You guys comment in here about it - it would be interesting to see what each of us thinks.

1913
Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: May 07, 2014, 07:51:13 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDL-F5ABVAk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDL-F5ABVAk</a>

1914
Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: May 07, 2014, 07:35:26 pm »

1915
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Loopie's Log
« on: May 07, 2014, 04:26:09 am »
It's much harder on the rings, isn't it?

1916
It doesn't  matter, keep at it. When you will get better you should see some carryover into the jumps themselves.

1917
Yeah 45 is the target.

I never benched my bodyweight. I benched 85 but at over 85 kg.

1918
Yeah I'm planning the same thing - track work, VERY low intensity. No jumps for me. Easy running at best and stretching.

1919
So you can do 45 pushups in one minute? Bench 1x for 15 reps?

1920
Here's something fun to do as a competition in between us (a competition I will be losing, by the way) - the Dan John assessment.

It goes like this:

1) A one minute front plank (stop if you can't do it);
2) Pushups in a minute - count how many you did by the 30 second mark and how many in total you did in one minute; Target is 45 pushups;
3) Horizontal rows in a minutes - same as pushups - how many in 30 seconds and how many in total in one minute; Target is 24 rows, or half your pushups;
4) Can you do a overhead squat with a light stick?
5) Bodyweight bench press: how many reps with your bodyweight on the bar (if you weigh 80 kg, how many reps with 80 kg) - tops at 15 reps;
6) Bodyweight squat: how many reps with your bodyweight on the bar (if you weigh 80 kg, how many reps with 80 kg) - tops at 15 reps;
7) Pullups: should equal the number of the bench press rep number;
8) A measured jump - 3 consecutive 2-leg jumps for length - 30 feet = great, 21 feet = minimum;
9) A measured throw - a medball throw or something (we'll see how we do this).

When my back gets healthy I will try this and see what I come up with.

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