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400m Sprinting or Shorter / Re: Sprint Videos
« on: September 16, 2013, 09:05:53 am »
Quote from: Joe on September 16, 2013, 06:14:40 am
Holy shit Asafa.

Edit: this reminds me I really want that Farah v Bolt 600m race to happen now

I heard David Rudisha (the 800m runner) was going to have either a 400m or 500m race with Bolt. If it's 400m I think Bolt has too much speed for him. If it's 500 it makes a lot more sense since Bolt is the worlds best 200m runner and Rudisha is the world's best 800m runner so 500m is in the middle. That could go either way in a 500m because Rudisha has incredible speed endurance.

Farah V Bolt in the 600m would be interesting as well but I'd prefer to see Bolt V Rudisha in a 500m. Farah is a very versatile runner who holds world class times in any distance from 1500m up to 10,000m, and he's got a reputation for having a lot of speed. Bolt is probably too lazy to train properly to race a 600m so I wouldn't be surprised if Farah won. A better matchup would be Tyson Gay  V Farah in a 600 but that's obviously never going to happen now.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: September 16, 2013, 08:56:23 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0-wE5BjHyY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0-wE5BjHyY</a>


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4RUU0lNLP4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4RUU0lNLP4</a>

Stay Safe!



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Boxing / Re: floyd vs canelo - who do you have?
« on: September 16, 2013, 08:12:00 am »
Quote from: Raptor on September 16, 2013, 05:25:47 am
Quote from: Joe on September 15, 2013, 07:13:34 am



3 clowns. At least Gayweather is good at what he's doing. The other two....

Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne look like groupies!

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400m Sprinting or Shorter / Re: Sprint Videos
« on: September 16, 2013, 04:25:38 am »
Stephen Francis training group doing 300m intervals. Have a look at their times.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bACUl96_zcQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bACUl96_zcQ</a>

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: 100-lessons-of-strength-life-and-power
« on: September 15, 2013, 09:24:08 am »
There's so much contradiction in the strength/fitness community.
E.g
Do your static stretching prior to your dynamic warmup.  Do static stretching cold, and hold the stretch for 2+ minutes.  Focus on the areas you are tight, not the areas you are already good at, or you may end up worse off.
I always heard that it was bad to do static stretching because it makes your muscles weaker. I do static stretching but if I'm stretching quads or hamstrings I'll only hold the stretch for about 10 seconds on each leg but do it 3x. 2 minutes seems overkill.

Anyway the points I found interesting were:
That “can barely walk” feeling you get after a high volume squat day isn’t your muscles torn to shreds, but rather, the dis-coordination of the nervous system.  The CNS will become very uncoordinated following acute bouts of acidic shock brought from lacate.

Repeated long sprints are important for athletic development in terms of musculo-tendon stiffness.

Squats make an athlete fast…. for about 15-20 meters.  When an athlete is in top-end speed posture, squats have a limited transfer of strength qualities.

Don’t be nice.  Being nice is putting up with being mistreated to keep the peace.  The world would be a better place if people would speak their mind, perhaps the #1 reason most corporate meetings are so unproductive.  A delicate balance exists between this and #91.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: September 12, 2013, 01:46:39 pm »
Quote from: Joe on September 12, 2013, 01:44:16 pm
Quote from: Mutumbo000 on September 12, 2013, 01:34:47 pm
Is that to develop core strength?

"WE have seen some bicep tendon shifts when the width of the handles had been about 32 in. Although uncommon they also can come out with narrower grips but with lats pulling shoulders to hips and elbows over hands biceps seem to be alright. If biceps tendon comes out we have seen success putting the arp on triceps, taking it to 10 in the head and doing 200-300 wooden dowl curls. Usually brings it back into place."

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LOL crazy Russians.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: funny / horrible training videos
« on: September 12, 2013, 01:34:47 pm »
Is that to develop core strength?

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 11, 2013, 12:00:40 pm »
Quote from: entropy on September 11, 2013, 11:50:18 am
Quote from: Mutumbo000 on September 11, 2013, 11:42:12 am
Quote from: entropy on September 11, 2013, 11:22:32 am
Shit i dont have a short torso. haha. So guess i'm not a deadlifter build either? Wtf am i then :P

But that makes sense Mutumbo000. I guess there is a difference between being athletic and SUITED to lifting (eg oly lifters). And being athletic and being unsuited to lifting (eg basketballer builds). It's like that video of the bulgarian dude doing a 4x bw FS. And raptor said he must have a 50" vertical. But. His femurs are a lot smaller. So he might still have a huge vertical, but what makes his lifting so good is what makes him bad at jumping. It goes the other way too, if you have bad proportions for lifting, you actually get the most out of lifting since it converts better to athletic endavour. So jordan wouldn't need a 500lb squat, he might only need a 400 one (to get athletic improvements)

I got huge gains from front squatting by the time I was using 100kg for reps even though someone who is build perfectly for squatting would need to get to say 150kg to get the same benefit. So it's a big struggle for me to get to 150kg, but when I get there, i'll have a similar benefit to a build-to-squat person who is now squatting 250kg..

Exactly. In the end it kind of evens itself out. Like I've never been able to squat 3 plates. However, the first time I ever deadlifted I did 3 plates. I'm not sure why I can't squat. Maybe I have low test or slow twitch muscles because despite how weak my squat is I actually do put a lot of effort into it. That said I think if I could ever squat 4 or 5 plates at my current bodyweight than I would probably be running 100m in mid 10s but that's a lot easier said than done.

We talked about this recently in my log where Todday disagree with me but I think you are very strong, that's what your DL says. Walking into a gym first time and pulling 3 plates says exactly that. His theory is sprinters naturally have a lot of back strength from isometric training. But I think it's a true test of strength. The squat is much more about technique and skill. That's not talking about build which I admit goes for deadlift too (good deadlifters might be bad (olympic) squatters and vice versa). As far as what it would take for you to squat 4 or 5. I'd love to know that too, for you. Maybe when you focus on strength you should post videos from a variety of angles, to see if there is some glaring fixable fault that you're unaware of, like i said, highly technique dependent. Build to squat guys will accuse you for overthinking etc, but they don't understand how hard it is for someone not build to squat to get good at it and make progress!!

Or maybe we just need to leg presses. Like really really heavy leg presses. I sometimes think I could build my leg strength a lot better with a machine because it would challenge only my legs and not my stupid mickeymouse build which wants to fold over like a house of cards at the slightest provocation while trying to challenge my legs with a heavy weight on the squat..

Yeah it's frustrating. Especially when you go on sites like bodybuilding.com where every man and his dog seems to be able to squat 4 plates and people say that everybody should be squatting 315 within a year of training. You go on forums to look for advice and it's always along the lines of 'squat 3x a week and eat more'. Eating more is ok if you don't care about putting on weight. Than there's people that are around my weight that do have very good squats but usually they are only around 5'5-5'8 and built for squatting anyway. My track season has almost started so I don't think there's a lot that I can do to dramatically increase my strength. Next year I'm not going to play rugby when my track season finishes I'm just going to use the 6 months to stay injury free and go squatting 3 or maybe even 4x a week with 3x5 or smolov or whatever routine I need to do to get great leg strength.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 11, 2013, 11:42:12 am »
Quote from: entropy on September 11, 2013, 11:22:32 am
Shit i dont have a short torso. haha. So guess i'm not a deadlifter build either? Wtf am i then :P

But that makes sense Mutumbo000. I guess there is a difference between being athletic and SUITED to lifting (eg oly lifters). And being athletic and being unsuited to lifting (eg basketballer builds). It's like that video of the bulgarian dude doing a 4x bw FS. And raptor said he must have a 50" vertical. But. His femurs are a lot smaller. So he might still have a huge vertical, but what makes his lifting so good is what makes him bad at jumping. It goes the other way too, if you have bad proportions for lifting, you actually get the most out of lifting since it converts better to athletic endavour. So jordan wouldn't need a 500lb squat, he might only need a 400 one (to get athletic improvements)

I got huge gains from front squatting by the time I was using 100kg for reps even though someone who is build perfectly for squatting would need to get to say 150kg to get the same benefit. So it's a big struggle for me to get to 150kg, but when I get there, i'll have a similar benefit to a build-to-squat person who is now squatting 250kg..

Exactly. In the end it kind of evens itself out. Like I've never been able to squat 3 plates. However, the first time I ever deadlifted I did 3 plates. I'm not sure why I can't squat. Maybe I have low test or slow twitch muscles because despite how weak my squat is I actually do put a lot of effort into it. That said I think if I could ever squat 4 or 5 plates at my current bodyweight than I would probably be running 100m in mid 10s but that's a lot easier said than done.

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Bios / Re: Animals
« on: September 11, 2013, 09:58:06 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XC6r9SIQfo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XC6r9SIQfo</a>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e51TlGBTyVg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e51TlGBTyVg</a>


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 11, 2013, 08:58:18 am »
Quote from: entropy on September 11, 2013, 08:29:32 am
Re squatmornings:- If I have any body part which I can consider to have good muscular development it is my hamstrings, which I never train exclusively, only by accident via squat morning. It's funny when I look around online and see guys who do hamstring work with RDLs for example and I could easily go out and do more weight on RDL for more reps even though I don't do hamstring work. No deadlifts, no pulls at all, no GHRs etc. It's because i'm 'blessed' with deadlifter proportions and my squats turn into squat mornings meaning I work my hamstrings as well as someone else just by doing backsquats. I would trade places at once with someone with a squatter build if it meant my squats were squat-like rather than deadlift-like! I'd make a better powerlifter than an olympic lifter. It just so happens I look down on typical PL technique as vulgar and unathletic (which it is). Olympic form is much prettier and of course athletic too which is what we're interested in here.

Wondering, do sprinters have deadlifter builds or squatter ones? What about basketball players? Which athletes have deadlifter builds? I doubt there is any, since my prejudice says they're not good athletes lol.

Sprinters and basketball players and pretty much anybody that's naturally fast or of West African decent all have deadlift builds (long legs, short torso).

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/bodystructure.html
By the same token many athletes who can jump high and run fast have physical characteristics such as long lower legs, high calves and a long achilles tendon. The length of the achilles tendon gives them a leverage advantage for reactive strength because it acts like a long rubber band. Recall that in a plyometric movement the muscles and tendons are stretched and energy is stored and released in greater quantities. Having long tendons in the lower leg can enhance this process. The achilles tendon is amazing at storing elastic energy and giving it back to you; it's an adaptation to make activities like walking and running more efficient. In the animal kingdom kangaroos probably have the longest achilles tendons and are also the best leapers. They can literally bounce around over small buildings with hardly any muscular effort.

This doesn't at all mean that just because you might not have long legs and tendons that you won't be able to run or jump, it just means strength and agility will probably come easier for you and that your leaping ability will likely be naturally more dependent on pure strength and your reactive ability will come less easy. Maximize your attributes and develop your weaknesses and you will definitely overcome someone who has the right attributes but doesn't train correctly.

On the other hand, if you have long legs and tendons,- strength and the ability to demonstrate that strength in the weight room, jump from a pure standstill, or fire off the line like a bullet in a sprint probably won't come as easy for you, - yet being bouncy, having good top speed, and having good reactive ability will. If this describes you and you one day desire to be a powerlifting champion it can be done but you're just gonna have to work a little smarter then others who are gifted with a structure geared towards lifting.

You think Michael Jordan is going to be in the gym squatting 500lbs? Fuk no. I doubt he'd be able to squat much over 315 even if he did squat. But you know what? It doesn't matter because his build allows him to be a great jumper naturally. Carl Lewis didn't even have to lift because he was born with athleticism. Same as most of the guys you see in dunk videos and in the NBA.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: acole14's journal - DUNK OR DIE
« on: September 11, 2013, 08:18:03 am »
That's good that you moved to a closer gym. My gym only has 1 squat rack as well but as long as I don't go to the gym during peak hour I usually don't have to wait very long, if at all to use it. As far as front squats go it's pretty hard to do more than 5 reps because after 5 reps it starts taxing your back moreso than your legs.

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MUSiC anD SHeeT! / Re: What Are You Listening To Right Now?
« on: September 10, 2013, 01:18:52 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkoZGnYKymU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkoZGnYKymU</a>

It's a pretty cool video as well. The guy at 0:09 sort of looks like me. Makes you wonder how it would've felt getting conscripted to go to Vietnam. The scariest thing would've been going through all the swamps and praying to god that you wouldn't step on a landmine. Massive respect to all the soldiers who went through that.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 09, 2013, 07:51:15 am »
Strong front squats like usual.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: a fast and explosive donkey!
« on: September 09, 2013, 02:31:11 am »
You're definitely a lot better off 2 legs. If you've got a 7'6 reach than your 2 leg jump is at least 30 inches coz I can see you touching the rim.

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