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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Re: calling all you college kids: i want this paper
« on: November 01, 2012, 11:23:39 pm »
word. I had to send a request just got it today. well, how was it? This is the peer reviewed articles discussion thread afterall

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Peer Reviewed Studies Discussion / Re: calling all you college kids: i want this paper
« on: November 01, 2012, 07:37:08 pm »
got it. PM me your emailz.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: weighted:pullups vs chin ups?
« on: November 01, 2012, 10:24:34 am »
yeah my explanation was very simplistic and ignorant honestly. Thesituation is onto something.


Found a nice report on the differences.


"3) It is interesting to note that the major muscles involved (pectoralis major - sternal portion, latissimus
dorsi and teres major) are the prime movers in either the supinated or pronated grip. However, only
the upper latissimus is involved when the pronated grip is used and only the lower latissimus with the
supinated grip. Thus by using both grips you can get full development of this muscle while still
involving the others to almost the same extent."


"When a fairly wide pronated grip is used and the back of the neck is brought up to the bar, the
latissimus dorsi muscle pulls in a straighter line and exhibits greater force. The lower pectoralis major,
however, is favored when the chin is brought above the bar when using either grip."
http://kinesconnection.com/exercisepdfs/Chin-upPull-up.pdf

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: weighted:pullups vs chin ups?
« on: October 31, 2012, 07:30:43 pm »
this is assuming same width. That will play a bigger difference imo. CLose grip as lbss said hits arms more, wide grip hits back more. half-rom hits arms more, full rom his back more. unless you only do bottom half rom which hits back more.

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Article & Video Discussion / Interview: weightlifting before or after track work
« on: October 31, 2012, 01:28:40 pm »
http://speedendurance.com/2012/10/23/fireside-chat-weight-lifting-before-or-after-track-practice/

make sure to read comments

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Article & Video Discussion / Re: movie night
« on: October 29, 2012, 07:17:01 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyCCd8MCcZY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyCCd8MCcZY</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71l-kIhJ5j8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71l-kIhJ5j8</a>

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Innovative Exercises Ideas for Speed
« on: October 26, 2012, 09:26:13 pm »
Wow Ive never thought of that, and i've thought of some crazy plyos. I don't think the latter exercise you described would be very effective. The forces experienced during a maximal sprint would probably be greater. Also it would be nearly impossible and wasteful energetically to land in a sprint position, especially since you are going to be practising a start rather than a flying sprint, where you need to be a lot lower to the ground. Landing vertically on one leg just won't allow that.

Just stick to double legged depth jumps. I usually use a double depth jump, meaning I add in another jump after I land from the first depth jump immediately. so it's a depth jump + pogo jump. Also make sure you have a program design and aren't just doing this out of the blue.

You could try a horizontal single legged depth jump which will hit the hips more than the knees. It's basically a skip for height where the penultimate leg is the same leg you skip with. It's safe, and fun.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: October 21, 2012, 12:11:35 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDB5WclHVto" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDB5WclHVto</a>

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: Pain in lumbar spine, from deadlifting
« on: October 20, 2012, 10:19:39 pm »
I'm about 96% better. only pain I have is mild piriformis syndrome stiffness in leg leg which I've had for 5 years at this point. Have never seen anyone abotu it but its usually very mild and doesn't affect anything except a sit and reach test or anything involving hamstring stretches with knees locked. Other than that I could jump, sprint, and lift. taking a rest day though today.

Still don't know exactly what muscle I pulled, I'm thinking psoas since it attaches to lumbar vertebrae and I could not hyperextend.

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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: Are these things useful at all?
« on: October 15, 2012, 12:01:38 am »
spine is compressed during these exercises. I prefer to do isometrics with bands or a swiss ball. My old boss said the spine was compresed not too sure

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: Pain in lumbar spine, from deadlifting
« on: October 14, 2012, 06:53:29 pm »
Quote from: Raptor on October 14, 2012, 08:57:32 am
You know, I was reading through the www.exrx.net site and there was a discussion about the straight leg deadlift, and a guy wrote to the guy running the site that the guy (yes, I know, a lot of "guys") in the gif animation bends quite a bit at the spine during the lift.

And the guy running the site was like "if the bar is really close to the body there's not such a big danger, even if the back rounds".

Let me search for that.

Quote
These techniques are used in the execution of the straight leg deadlift. Notice the weight is lowered to the top of the feet and not just beyond the feet. Illustrations in articles suggesting destructive forces on the spine are quite different than the straight leg deadlift. According to the ExRx description and animation the weight is kept very close to the body. Positioning the resistance away from the body subjects forces on spine structures much greater than the straight leg deadlift described.

I personally have not seen a higher incidence of injury to my clients on the straight leg deadlift as compared to other exercises. I certainly agree it would be a risk to perform the straight leg deadlift for individuals with certain low back disorders, or those who do not conform to the 4 adaptation criteria outlined on this site. Although many individuals from industrialized countries suffer from lower back pain, if I were to remove the straight leg deadlift and other exercises based upon certain people's idiosyncrasies, there would be few exercise to left to demonstrate.

http://www.exrx.net/Questions/DangerousExercises.html#anchor416052


ncie article btw.

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: Pain in lumbar spine, from deadlifting
« on: October 14, 2012, 06:52:32 pm »
damn that sounds a lot worse.
edit: what caused that?

Updates: went to ER. X-Rays found nothing, as I've read is common. Doctor tested me for pain shooting down limbs, typical of herniated disks when the nerves are pinched, but all the pain is in one area somewhere in the lumbar. So that means if I did slip a disk, it's very minor. However doctor says it's muscle spasm... i dno if I believe that based on what I felt happen mid-lift.

They injected some shit into my ass and I actually feel way better and can pick something off the ground (toradol). It's a lot easier to stand up after sitting down, walking is easier. been icing it all day too. WIll update tmrw. Mentally I feel happy at least. Yeah this nsaid is just stopping the healing process, pain is necessary in my view, a sign that it is healing.

Got referred to a sports medicine doc. maybe i can get an mri there.


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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: Pain in lumbar spine, from deadlifting
« on: October 14, 2012, 08:21:03 am »
yeah its good advice. my head though doesn't work as well when I'm too amped up. I did not think I was hunched over but I must have been a little. However I feel like the main reason this happened was b/c the bar was too fat out in front. That's why lumbar spine rounded but didn't feel my thoracic area rounding as it would with 95%+ loads. 375 is more like 90% i'd say.

Updates:
Got much worse in the morning. Could barely stand up. took a hot/cold shower, mostly hot, and I am comfortably standingup. I'm generally stiffer in the morning.

Also found it tough to find a comfortable position to sleep in. Sneezing too hard and coughing does aggravate area a bit. no leg pain but cannot extend leg far.

edit: but hey I wasn't ego lifting, really. I just like lifting really heavy...esp on deads if I feel like it. but yes there is truly no point unless it's a competition.

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Pain in lumbar spine, from deadlifting
« on: October 13, 2012, 11:14:51 pm »
Today I decided to deadlift. My frequency is about 1ce every 2 weeks, not going too heavy anymore. Today I went near maximal and hunched oover in the lower back most likely during a pull.

So here is what happened and my symptoms based on my observations in sequential order.

375lbs x2 reps. sumo-ish, feet are slightly wider than shoulder width.

First rep, i felt myself using my back a little bit. Intensity is 100%, teeth-clenched, very aggressive energy.
2nd rep, I felt a tearing sensation in my lower back. mid way through the pull, probably just after the barbell crossed my knees on the way up. I did complete the rep, lowered it. ANd stood up, noticing sharp pain in the lumbar spine. Not enough pain to cause me to have to sit down or make a lot of faces. but definitely enugh to end my workout. Couldn't even deadlift 135 after that.

Here are some things I can do sort of comfortable:
1. lunges, step ups
2. child's pose yoga
3. running very slowly causes some pain but it's not completely out of picture.

things that cause pain:
1. leaning backwards. I treid to do the inverted post in yoga that you do after child's pose, where the hip is hyperextended, and that is not possible. so I cannot hyperextend at the hip.
2. taking long strides while walking. when I walk I kind of have to stay on my forefoot. If I extend at the leg too much it causes pain.
3. toe-touch: standing there is abslutely now ay I can bend down to touch my toes. Unless I'm in the middle of a very cold shower. I have to squat down.
4. bending sideways while standing up: that exercise people do to train their obliques, that hurts. unless in cold shower than it's fine, haven't iced it yet I am preparing ice right now.

i think sitting down for toolong also makes it worse.

There is no leg pain. All pain is localized in one small area between L2-L4 unless it's not even in the spine. I read that leg pain is common in a herniated disk. legs feel very strong

Any ideas? Yes I know I need to see a doctor. workingon that.

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: High blood pressure
« on: October 10, 2012, 07:17:08 pm »
try it for at least 20 minutes. just sit, close eyes, feet flat on floor or cross-legged. back straight.

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