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Strength, Power, Reactivity, & Speed Discussion / Re: The right and wrong way to squat
« on: December 18, 2011, 08:18:02 pm »It's interesting how people start debating about other random shit in a debate after realizing they can't make any valid points.
I don't think anyone can disagree (and that's why no one has made any comments on it), that descending with elevated heels, and ascending with the hips pushing backwards, and the heels depressed, is better than squatting heel-to-toe as a mental cue, or has any relevance to vertical jump, sprinting, or any athletic movement involving plantar flexion, knee and hip extension.
This is really not overanalyzed. It's common sense. Actually, kinesthetic sense. Don't think about it.. feel about it. It doesn't make sense to squat this way. It's the lazy way to squat and happens under fatigue.
Lastly, steven has a good VJ after watching the video closely. I thought it was only 30 at first but looks like it could be 35. But yes for having over a 2xbw squat, it could be way better. His reason would be slow RFD, because I looked at his form and it is not bad at all, there is a tiny amount of hip movement backwards but not much comapared to these other videos. Frank Yang had a very good VJ, but squatted toe-to-heel (but trained very explosively) so the point is thus, you can develop strong quads by squatting incorrectly toe-to-heel, but you can get stronger in a more specific fashion heel-to-toe. Not incredibly huge of a deal, but enough worth posting about.
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If you get relatively stronger in any kind of squat (after neural gains), your jump is going to go up. Doesn't matter if it's optimal
A 35 inch jump is higher than most players in the NFL (take into account inflation). I'm sure a lot of them are strong enough to squat 2xBW. I'm not sure what you are basing your numbers on. You're too distracted by e-stats to know how people actually jump. Thank people like Rip for that.