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you think training with doubles or triples on the front squat would do the trick?
couse my back squat kinda sucks, i cant go on full rom

no. front squats taxes the upperbody too much to make it an efficient leg mass builder IMO. your torso stabilizing muscles will be giving out way before you even get your legs some decent resistance.



1772
I disagree with the analysis above. A few points:
1)While indeed an individual with lower limit strength may jump higher because of exactly what is shown ( the explosive trained one is stronger at the 0.2 seconds that a VJ takes place ) , we do NOT know ruso's curve.
2)This figure it evidently ( and imo deliberately ) wrong because the heavy resistance trained person's limit strength is ~20% bigger than the untrained one's and ~10% bigger than the explosive trained. Redraw the heavy resistance trained curve so that the peak strength is 2-3 times higher than the untrained force and put the explosive trained curve somewhere in the middle. Even at 0.2seconds the heavy resistance trained force will be higher than both others.
3)I hate that myth/obsession with ballistic training. Heavy resistance training is always made look like it's all about squatting power-lifting style with 8 seconds grinders, that is not the case. The truth is that lifting heavy for low reps while maintaining jumping efficiency will never fail. I don't bash explosive work , i implement it too , but it's just a helping tool , not the solution.
4) kingfish!!!

Yes. Explosive heavy squats + jumps is the simplest and most effective training for the standing jump... that and a solid diet... u cant really mess that up. 

just remember that on the full squat.. you explode with all you got at the beginning of the concentric.. and let that momentum carry you to the lockout.. if u hand to grind.. you're using too much weight.. if you're sub 2BW.. you need to eat more cows.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 06, 2012, 03:28:25 pm »
Tue - 1/2 Morning
Mar 6, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300,350x2[400,425x1]
- 325x1
- 345x1

* could have gotten 435-440x1. legs feel strong. will probably ditch the 325 and move up to 345 on the paused front squats. thats 2BW front squats for me. will max at 365-385 and maintain that.
* if im not too tired sore after my midday nap (did sprint drills after squats), il lift again in the afternoon.
 
Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1    1.1
              340            1.1
              345                      1.1
Week 2   325  1.1     1x3     1
              345            1x1     1

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Tue - 2/2 Afternoon
Mar 6, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250,300x2][350,400,425x1]

* 425x1 was explosive but it felt like id be tiring myself faster if i've gone heavier. will save the 445 for another day.

Got myself these! Yes. another one for the collection. i still use the ironworks 2 everyday and everything else stays pretty much new.


1774
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 05, 2012, 11:01:29 am »
^ i just posted his latest vid.

Mon - 1/2 Morning
Mar 5, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300,350x2][400,425x1]
- 325 1x2

* 425x1 was not so bad. felt like i still have 10-15lb reserved. stopped at 425x1 and will go heavier this afternoon.. 445-450ish.
* back up paused front squats singles at 325 felt really comfortable now. will go 340-350 later if i feel good.

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Mon - 2/2 Afternoon
Mar 5, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250,300x2][350,400,425x1]
- 325x1
- 345x1

* did not feel very strong after the midday sleep. stopped at 425x1 and did front squats.
* daily dumbell shoulder press now at 60-80 x4-6. getting thicker deltoids should help the front squats feel less painfull on the shoulders.

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1    1.1
              340            1.1
              345                      1.1
Week 2   325  1.1     1x3    
              345            1x1

1775
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 04, 2012, 04:55:41 pm »
^ no offense to RutgersDunker or anybody who is sub 5'10.. but IMO, it will take a LOT more strength to get the same jumps compared to somebody with longer leverages.. (5'10++). if  RutgersDunker grows to 5'10+... he should be mid-forearming the rim with 2 hands from an SVJ with that leg explosiveness. i can SVJ the same rim RVJ grabs in his vids with a max squat ratio that is considerable lower than his.

and yes.. toying with 500lb at 174lb is elite. if i dont break anything, i hope to be at that level soon. good job!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juT8-Uusk94" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juT8-Uusk94</a>


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 04, 2012, 12:18:11 pm »
^ i was a road bike cyclist in my teens. built big legs with low cadence and the big gears. only way i think anybody can do a mid-high 40s SVJ is to be at low-mid 160s while pause full squatting high400s/low 500s.. at 5-6%BF...

so yes.. ~ 3BW athletic squat max thats not really a grinding rep.. more like a very explosive start with a bar speed decay thats slow enough so that when the bar speed comes to a halt, the rep is already at top lockout.

Sun - 1/2 Morning
Mar 4, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300,350x2][400x1][425x0]
- 325 0x0

* could have gotten the 425x1 paused if i attempted it again. was not that weak on the first failed rep.. just did not have good explosion from the pause and did not want to use too much effort grinding the rep. did not want to use too much energy trying to push it this morning when i know id lift it a lot easier later. just used this morning training to get legs ready.

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Sun - 2/2 Afternoon
Mar 4, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250,300x2][350,400,425x1]
- 325 1x2

* strong post workout meal and 3-4hrs resting/shower. back to gym at lunch time. 425x1 was not very explosive. stopped there. back up front squats still resting at 325s - not very difficult this time. shoulders starting to feel stronger.

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1    1.1
              340            1.1
              345                      1.1
Week 2   325  1.1    

1777
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 03, 2012, 07:45:03 pm »
^ yes.. im ancient. turning 31 this july.

And aren't you almost 30 years old? When did you start squatting?
Go on ANY bodybuilding forum and everyone there will tell you you can't squat 2.6x your bodyweight starting at such a late age (24?) and low weight... lol yeah okay.

i'm at repeatable 2.6BW paused full squat right now (440@170), as long as i train in the morning and a good 2-3 midday nap.. id pause lift 440x1 on afternoon training as a daily maintenance max lift with +5-10 as max. i'm not a professional athlete (well training to be one..) but IMO, the human body is capable doing a lot more.. (even without taking PEDs offcourse).

Sat - Single Workout
Mar 3, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300,350x2][400,425x1]
- 325 1x2

* slept for 9:30am-2pm. lifts were not as bad as yesterday. cut the rest time to 3mins on sub 350 and 5mins on the heavier reps today.
* front squats are difficult for the shoulders again. not improving here.

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1    1.1
              340            1.1
              345                      1.1

1778
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 02, 2012, 11:09:22 pm »
^ been 170 dry weight for months now. 174lb wet weight.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 02, 2012, 09:04:19 pm »
Fri - Single Workout
Mar 2, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300,350x2][400,425x1]
- 325 1x2

* slept 8:30am-3pm. felt well rested and recovered but lifted like crap. 425 felt heavier than yesterdays 440x1 on the afternoon workout. if i have time to lift at 10pm today, IMO il get another 440-445x1 paused. i have work so il just hope my recovery really gets going. il have another single training session tmrw.. i'm actually looking forward to days were i train 2x now. 425 feels heavier the more time i rest between lifting it.
* back up front squats were felt heavier also on the shoulders. will stay with 325 until i feel good again and blast up to 350-365.

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1
              340            1.1
              345                      1.1

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: March 01, 2012, 04:56:05 pm »
Thur - Morning
Mar 1, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300x2][350,400,425x1]
- 325 1x2

* slept 6am-12pm. did my morning training. 45min session. 425x1 was not heavy. lifting this again in 5-5.5hr from now will make it feel lighter by 20-30lbs. probably go to 440 again depending on how sharp i feel when i wake up again later. repeatable paused reps doesn't get my VMO area tender. i still put compression wraps on my right VMO area while i sleep. compression makes me feel like im recovering faster.
* front squats kept light at 325. still resting the shoulders, wrists and everything else that get hammered while trying to keep the weight in my front shoulders.

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1
              340            1.1
              345                      1.1
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Thur - Afternoon
Mar 1, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x2][300x2][350,400,425,440x1]
- 325 0x0

* 440x1 was max for today. need more recovery. will take it light the next couple of days. no back up front squats. shoulders are tired. did some this morning so that should take care of the daily lift.
* did not get a nap between the workouts today. ~ 5 hours in between the heavy lifts. tried to sleep but the 6hr morning sleep was enough. il probably get more tired later but nothing another deep sleep can't fix.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 29, 2012, 12:19:43 pm »
Wed - Morning
Feb 29, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300x2][350,400,425x1]
- 325 1x2

* light day. no training in the afternoon. work night starts. needed a break anyway. upper front clavicle area and the surrounding muscles feeling beat from the 345 front squats.

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1     1.1     1.1
              340            1.1
              345                      1.1
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Wed - Afternoon
Feb 29, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250,300x2][350,400,425,440x1]
- 325 1x2

* plan to skip the afternoon training did not happen. took a strong post workout meal and a good midday nap. wrapped lower right VMO area because it feels better like that + the compression tights i wear for recovery. woke up and felt like lifting 440.
* 445-450 would be doable but very tiring. 440 was just right.  back up front squats not too heavy to get better recovery. 345 doable but will probably make my shoulders hurt again. doing more BW dips to get more blood into that area being hammered by the front squats.

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1     1.1     1.4
              340            1.1
              345




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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 28, 2012, 10:07:12 am »
^ 450 lbs looks like a tank. 455 looks a lot more awesome.

Tue
Feb 28, 2012

Morning
Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300,350x2][400,425,435x1]
- 345 1x2

* i don't know why but it seems that getting rid of the higher rep back up (non-paused reps using 375) a few days ago got my strength overshooting at the moment. the 400-425 felt light again. 435 was not as explosive but definitely repeatable on a daily basis.
* i will get 440-445 this afternoon after a good 4-5hr midday nap and a strong post workout meal. probably back up a bit and not go all heavy.

Afternoon
Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250,300x2][350,400,425x1]
- 325 1x2

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1     1.1
              340            1.1
              345                      1.1

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 27, 2012, 11:33:10 pm »
Mon
Feb 27, 2012

Morning
Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300,350x2][400,425x1]
- 325 1x2

Afternoon
Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250,300x2][350,400,425,440x1][455x0]
- 340 1x2

* on a strong day, i lift better if i train in the morning, then a mid day nap, then train again in the afternoon. worked really well today. the 400,425x1 in the morning was explosive, but not as explosive if i were to do it again within the day.
* i was right. the 400,425,440 felt easy in the afternoon. i could have gotten a 450x1 paused. since i don't like how 450 looks (2x10lb + 2x2.5lb), it was not a good idea that i attempted 455. i failed midway up but the eccentric and explosion from the paused start was controlled and smooth. i handled the weight pretty good until midway up.. will upload vid if i find time for it.
* diet - replaced half my carb source from brown rice to japanese yam / kabocha squash.

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325  1.1     1.1
              340            1.1

455x0 - 450 would have been a struggle but doable. went heavier because 455 looks boss  :P
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7kvQbwYeSc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7kvQbwYeSc</a>

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 26, 2012, 04:29:51 pm »
Sun
Feb 26, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Paused Rep Backup Front Squats
[200,250x4][300,350x2][400,425x1]
- 325 1x2

* not weak but not very strong either. spot on for a daily strength maintenance lifting. back up sets now dedicated to x1-2 front squats.
* aside from the sprinting drills, i will train for a high 200/low 300 powerclean in the next few weeks. if my daily front squat is 325, il try to go for 50-75% of that on the the powerclean ~   150 to 240 as long as i maintain strict form. max powerclean goal is 315lb.

Front Squat  Backup Sets Cycle

                      Sun   Mon   Tue    Wed   Thur   Fri   Sat
Week 1   325
  1.1




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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Kingfush
« on: February 25, 2012, 11:34:35 pm »
Sat - 2/2
Feb 25, 2012

Daily Squats Maintenance - Paused Rep Warmups / Non-Paused Back Up
[200,250x2][300,350,400,425x1]

* low appetite, was not able to eat solid food after the first workout, just BCAAs and whey protein shakes. did not feel tired and legs are not more sore than usual.  IMO, i need more sleep. 2 hr sleep. i woke up and fukitol.. legs and mind felt fresh - shower and another coffee then back to the gym to get my 425x1 today.
* sleep worked really well. i blasted the weights easily this time. could have gotted 435-440 paused. stopped at 425 without any back up sets. just trying to make my daily lifts.


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