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Considering it takes hours for your body to digest the food and for you to "absorb" the protein anyway, the idea that you need 5-6 high protein meals a day is ridiculous.

Just about to say this. Many people reccommend a minimum of 1g protein per pound of bodyweight.

I weigh 200lbs. If the "limit" is 20g every two hours, I would have to eat 10 meals a day with 2 hours in between each. That's 20 hours from the first meal to the next. So, what, I get 4 hours of sleep?

Some people say the limit is 40g every two hours. I would have to eat 5 meals a day with 2 hours in between. That sounds about right, but keep in mind protein will dissolve at different rates depending on what kind of protein it is, how much food is in your stomache already, and what kinds of other foods are in your stomache.

Gain 25 pounds then come back to us. Weight gain is even more important on benching.

This is exactly what I did, but clearly, you're missing the point. I've gained 25lbs since last summer. I'll post before/after pics if you really want to see. My squat increased by about 85lbs since then. But you're missing the point.

How does gaining weight give you better leverages in squatting? If it gives me better leverages, can I simulate the effect of better leverages during squatting while wearing ankle weights, a weight vest, and a weight belt?

No.

Will gaining weight make it easier for me to increase my squat over time?

Yes.

But that's a different discussion.

Not sure how it is everywhere in Europe, but in Macedonia it's like that. They're prejudiced against me because I live in America, and because I'm much more athletic and skilled than them. So when I drive into the lane, they really use force against me and foul A LOT. What sucks is that if you call foul, there's no basket if it goes in. At least where I play at (in NYC), the basket counts if you're playing full court (only sometimes on half court, depends who's playing against you lol. Not outdoors though. I found a nice, controlled gym where there's a sign-up sheet for full-court games. Everything is fair and controlled, and no arguing about who plays next and w/e, so that's why we have this and 1 rule too keep lazy defenders from fouling and hurting you every time).

Then there are those tall fat men who stay a couple of feet from the basket. So tough to get rebounds on them. Couple that with with... NO TAKEBACKS... and a low rim (like 9'6" where I'm at) and they are all-stars. You just can't beat them. I'm a jumpshooter, I can make 4 shots in a row, but if I miss one, defense gets the rebound and goes right up with it for a point and you don't have possession anymore. Makes it tougher to be a shooter.

There are no "checks" either, but this is a rule I like. These are the Macedonian rules:

1. If you score, you must take the ball out from anywhere along the baseline. There's no wait for a check. Your team needs 2 passes before you're allowed to shoot (the throw in from the baseline counts as a pass). Defense is allowed to intercept the pass in (exception: on the very first possession of the game when the score is 0-0, the first pass in cannot be intercepted).

2. If you are fouled, you take the ball out from the sideline straight out from the spot you were fouled. No wait for a check again. You take the ball out from here. Defense is allowed to intercept that throw in. Also, you may shoot as soon as the ball is in play (don't need to wait for a 2nd pass).

^^ Those 2 rules make for some awesome fast-paced basketball though . Well, so does the no takeback rule, but I hate that rule. Makes it unworthy to settle for jumpshots, but it's too dangerous to drive in so it just overall sucks for me.

It's better at simulating a full-court game because there are no checks in full court so you don't have to wait for the defense to pay attention, you just go. However, to keep it from getting crazy fast, there's that 2 pass rule after a shot (akin to eliminating cherry-picking in a full court game).

Yeah, a life changing experience.

A friend of mine told me a story about how a teacher of his, at the University level, got his car robbed. So they called the cops. And the cop, when he came, said "and what do you want me to do about it?!".

In another similar event, the cop said "well, I didn't tell you to let valuable stuff in the car!".

That's how it is... makes me realize how much I bitch all day.

There were some annoying ass kids (like 12 of them) following me one day. I was I think 13 years old at the time. I crossed the street like 5 seconds before the oncoming car was going to. The kids followed me and annoyed the driver and he had to slow down.
I finished crossing and this old man comes up from behind and slaps the shit out of me, upside the head. WTF???

I said "why did you hit me?!"
"You're supposed to watch out for those kids, you're older than them." (I was 13... they were 10?)
"??? I don't even know them!"
"Do I give a shit?"

It's not a big deal really. But if that happened in America, BAM LAWSUIT + NEWSPAPER HEADLINE.

"Random elderly man attacks 13 year old after crossing street."

Hence I turn into a jumpshooter when I play ball, and I think that's a smart thing to do.

+ +9,000

Whenever I'm in Europe I NEVER drive into the lane. Hell no, not outdoors, with 35 year old men pounding me because I'm "American" and much more athletic than those idiots. And we're playing on concrete with some small potholes. Not to mention, nobody realizes they're not playing tight D at all because there's no 3 point line on this court and they sag off anywhere more than 15ft from the basket if you're on the sides of the court (where it's harder for the defender to judge distance since he's not near the paint and he is facing away from the basket anyway). So I'll just make them pay anyway with my jumpshot. I'm a jumpshooter anyway.

Well he trains on his own right now, not sure what his squat numbers are at the moment, but he sprained his ankle in an "uncovered" sewer end that was on the street from what I know. Remember, we live in a civilized country.

 

Love southern Europe. It's the best thing in the world sometimes hahaha.

Me and my friends were hopping a rail over a bridge once, so we needed a bit of a run up. The bridge lead to the city center, so it was crowded. We kept having to stop ppl in their tracks to let us run and hop the rail into a dive.

These three girls passed by saying "you guys think you're having fun and all, but you're going to break your necks if you keep doing this! You should stop! It's dangerous!" We ignored them.

ONE MINUTE LATER two cops are about to pass by. My friend is lined up to hop the rail with a clear path, and they are about to step in his path. One cop stops the other with his arm and says "whoa whoa whoa, watch out. Check this out." He says to my friend "all right... let's see what you got."

My friend flips over the rail and into the river as the cops watch in delight. After the splash, they awe at the spectacle and walk on with smiles.

That moment right there just put my country in a nutshell.

Quote from: ccameron on April 15, 2011, 01:13:25 am

Sweet thanks for the info man, I completely forgot about weight releasers!

edit: it seems strange to me that an athlete would have minimal eccentric strength gains from concentric only training. If someone made giant gains in their deadlift say 400lbs, something way beyond the extra 30% strength of eccentric contraction and whatever minimal eccentric gains they get since they dropped the bar at the top on each rep.  Would it be possible that they couldn't at all lower their max deadlift?

Yeah exactly... if I train 3 months using deadlifts and dropping the bar at the top (so concentric only) and raise my deadlift from 100 to 160 kg, I find it hard to believe (impossible to believe) I won't be able to lower the 160 kg bar down to the floor.

I would agree, but would also argue that you would be able to faster increase your strength if you include the eccentric portion because of increases in muscle size leading to more strength anyway. Also, it'll increase your work capactiy, and therefore allowing you to do more reps which has a larger training effect.

To refute that though, you can say you can do more reps with only concentric contractions anyway...

This is interesting, I feel like I want to do an experiment.