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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 09, 2016, 05:05:32 am »
8 March 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~88,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : apparently this back bugging at previous post was a slight tweak, kinda hurt over the weekend, almost gone now, >90%

T0DDDAY'S GPP

Workout #19 ( Week #8 )

SUPERSET 1 - SQUAT ++ OHP:
3@90kg ++ 8@40kg
5@85kg ++ 8@40kg
7@80kg ++ 8@40kg
6@80kg ++ 8@40kg
-Played around with intensity & volume. Started heavy(ish) , then lowered weight and increased reps. Felt very nice.

SUPERSET 2 - BSS ++ PULLUPS:
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 10
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 8 + 2
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 7 + 3
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 6 + 4
-Best BSS so far.

SUPERSET 3 - RDL ++ LEG RAISE:
20@55kg ++ 20
15@75kg ++ 20
10@95kg ++ 20
5@110kg ++ 20
-Upped 5kg. However decided to not risk back re-flaring it so i cancelled top set again. AELS!

It took me ~8 weeks but it looks like i am finally adapting to this program. Most important, now i am not only progressing it, but also enjoying it. Great.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: March 07, 2016, 12:05:29 pm »
Olympic race-walking anyone? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racewalking#Top_performers

Women WR is 1h 24mins for 20km, that is 14kmh / 8.7mph.

2 times faster than adarq's PR pace , for ~6 times longer distance and/or ~3 times longer duration.

Once again, comparing Olympic athletes to our every-day achievements makes my jaw drop realizing the magnitude of their greatness, that is the reason of my post too, not to play smart-ass.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 05, 2016, 08:07:48 am »
^Thanks. Feels great indeed. However it was expected. It has been 7 weeks that i put in HIIT work 3-4 times a week, i've never put so much work at that in terms of frequency volume and duration combined. It is funny that most of that HIIT work is done with a bar on my back, but it does transfer to the wooden floor 100%, love it.
T0ddday for president!!!  :highfive:



5 March 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~87,75kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY'S GPP

Workout #18 ( Week #7 )

SUPERSET 1 - SQUAT ++ OHP:
4@80kg ++ 8@40kg
4@80kg ++ 8@40kg
5@80kg ++ 8@40kg
3@90kg ++ 8@40kg
-Win. Feeling better. Far from good but now finding the power to grind them reps solidly.
Also tried a huge up at last set to 90kg. Win, should have known, it is systemic fatigue, not inadequate strength. 90kg feels the same with 80 and 70, lol.

SUPERSET 2 - BSS ++ PULLUPS:
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 10
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 8 + 2
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 7 + 3
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 6 + 4
-Win here too, much more solid BSS, 8 reps instead of 6 , 4 sets instead of 3 , more pullups at second part of superset.

SUPERSET 3 - RDL ++ LEG RAISE:
20@50kg ++ 20
15@70kg ++ 20
10@90kg ++ 20
5@110kg ++ 20
-Felt back fatigued so cancelled top set. Great success at glute drive in the other ones, nice.

Hope in the horizon. More sets, more reps, more weight, better feeling. And all that being fasted and semi-depleted ( wasn't intended, just happened ) and also barely 36 hours after bball. Awesome.
Diet adjustment looks like a win too, around 0,5kg weight loss for a week of an average 500 kcal daily deficit , sounds about right.
Let's see if i can keep it up.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: March 05, 2016, 07:59:57 am »
go.
get.
it.

:highfive:  :headbang:

1745
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 04, 2016, 04:55:35 am »
3 March 2016

1½ hours full court bball.
Endurance/recovery are ever improving, i dare to say i am at lifetime PR levels at this.
Legs of course as denoted on the last several posts are dead. So nothing to report jump-wise.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 02, 2016, 05:20:55 am »
^Agreed, that is exactly the model i have in mind for 'volume-cut-deload'. However this time i felt i REALLY needed to lift something lighter. My legs were not just tired, i felt true pain. And those squats were so bad that were actually a technical failure.

inb4, upped my loads and applied a volume-cutting deload workout already yesterday, but i didn't want to do only 2 sets so i added a third one and reduced the reps:

1 March 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~88,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY'S GPP

Workout #17 ( Week #7 )

SUPERSET 1 - SQUAT ++ OHP:
3@80kg ++ 8@40kg
3@80kg ++ 8@40kg
4@80kg ++ 8@40kg

SUPERSET 2 - BSS ++ PULLUPS:
6 each leg @ 40kg ++ 10
6 each leg @ 40kg ++ 7 + 3
6 each leg @ 40kg ++ 6 + 4

SUPERSET 3 - RDL ++ LEG RAISE:
20@50kg ++ 20
15@70kg ++ 20
10@90kg ++ 20
5@110kg ++ 20

Modifications:
-Weights back up.
-Supersets per exercise reduced to 3 from 4.
-Rest between sets increased to 2:30 from 2 mins.
-Reps for squats reduced to those i can get in solid form.
-Reps for BSS reduced to 6/leg from 8/leg.

Result:
Good. Was fresher, finally enjoyed my squats ( having to squat-morning-grind ugly reps is highly irritating ) , also HR was back up at the red line area despite the fewer reps and bigger rests, over 160bpm at end of all sets and pushing over 170bmp at a few.

Finally, some optimism again.

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wow i remember that site. b0ka was a good dunker. there was another 4-letter name dunker who was also skinny and white. can't remember, some name with an M i think. mica? mika?. both eventually moved onto thejump101.com and i did as well. from there i hopped over to adarq. edit: wait from there we went to TheVerticalSummit, and THEN adarq.

tmac350?

Here is their best video, they are mocking clamantfever. Man, the clamantfever era with the endless flame wars on youtube was sooo fun!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYuRCW9lVM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyYuRCW9lVM</a>

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Man covers 400m in less than 6 seconds - but it doesn't count

Some random dude was part of a japanese style game show and he was told to sprint 400m with a giant horespower dragster under his feet :trollface:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aqtsmvZy-4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aqtsmvZy-4</a>

it shows how much it can help

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: March 01, 2016, 11:11:28 am »
Diet reality check.
According to my data , the last month i have been on a weekly caloric deficit between 2000 and 3000 kcal. It should lead to ( roughly ) 1,5 to 2 kg weight loss. But that is not there, i am stable.
Ok, then i am recomping? Uhmmm, not really, weight/waist/BI scale/mirror, all the measurements I can do look the same. Maybe, MAYBE i look like i have a LITTLE bigger shoulders and back and quads. And maybe i have lost some LITTLE bodyfat from the upper abs area, but not at all from the lower. So ok, maybe i am achieving a small scale recomp but not to the extent i should expect, not even close considering the diet plan.
I am adjusting my TDEE. 2300 is too much. The missing link has the size of  2000kcal/week so around 250-300/day. So I am changing my TDEE from 2300 to 2000. Entropy did suggest that weeks ago, looks like he was right. Plan remains the same , cut ~500 all days that i don't lift, eat around TDEE the days that i lift.
Let's see how this will work.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 29, 2016, 08:49:23 am »
Finally.  I agree w Dreyth.  DONT DELOAD.  Cut volume, increase rest.  Increase weights.  Ill try and write you an example of how when i have more time.

Too late. I did my first de-loading workout with cutting weights. It didn't quite work. I mean everything was easier, yes, legs had a chance to take it easy, but it kinda cancelled the workout essence, HR wouldn't go up, max was 130 or sth. Didn't occur to me that the weights played a role in this, silly, it is called intensity, lol.
Anyway, hope you get the time to give a deload example before next workout. Keep in mind that i decided to deload because my legs are really stressed. Both Eccentric and concentic on squats makes my quads hurt, it is real pain there, similar to a very light quad sprain. Form brakes down bad too. Even at the first set that i am not tired, it is not the daily ongoing fatigue from previous sets, fatigue is there before the workout. Currently my 80kg squat is slower and much uglier than my 105-110kg squat earlier this year. It is not a proper squat to be honest, it is a bad form squat with much forward lean, if i saw someone doing the squats i do i'd shake my head and wonder why he uses a load he cant handle.

Anyway, here is Saturday's workout

27 February 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~88,5kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY'S GPP

Workout #16 ( Week #6 )

SUPERSET 1 - SQUAT ++ OHP:
6@65kg ++ 8@35kg
6@65kg ++ 8@35kg
6@65kg ++ 8@35kg
6@65kg ++ 8@35kg

SUPERSET 2 - BSS ++ PULLUPS:
8 each leg @ 30kg ++ 8 + 2
8 each leg @ 30kg ++ 6 + 4
8 each leg @ 30kg ++ 6 + 4
8 each leg @ 30kg ++ 6 + 4
-Nice. BSS eccentrics feeling it a bit but ok.
Pullups were strong but doing 10 at the first set came with a price, couldn't go over 6 straight at all the others. Still great.

SUPERSET 3 - RDL ++ LEG RAISE:
20@40kg ++ 20
15@60kg ++ 20
10@80kg ++ 20
5@100kg ++ 20

So as stated i went down too much. -20kg  , -7.5kg OHP , -10kg BSS , -15kg RDL. I did break a good sweat again but as mentioned i was not reaching high HR, max was 130 , so minus 30-40bpm here too. It was refresing though.
Now i don't know if i should build up from here, stay here, or go back to my limit-strength weights, do as much reps as i can even if they are two or three and build up from there.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 27, 2016, 04:42:41 am »
Obviously a given quantity of fat has much more calories than the same quantity of carbs.
What I meant was, for a given total caloric input, would focusing on low carbs or fat have meaning? The calories won't change, they will be substituted.
I guess I was really looking for the recommended analogies. E.g. that 50g fat per da you mentioned.
I read some more though. I think I got my answer. I gotta lower my fat. I am hovering around 100g when it should be 75g for 2300 kcals (TDEE) / 55-60g for 1800kal (typical cutting day ).

I'm on it.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 26, 2016, 12:33:51 pm »
The sincere answer is that.... I don't deload. I use off weeks as deloads whenever they happen. Silly. When i actually deload ( rare , once every 2-3 years ) i use any of the two methods ( cut volule vs cut weights ) depending on how i feel. At this point i definitely feel i need to cut weights. It will be ~10kg which is ~12,5% on the bar but 6-7% on legs if you consider 0.85*BW to your squat.

On a different topic , let's start a nutritional geek flame war. The topic is : LOW CARB vs LOW FAT DIET ,  :highfive:  :wowthatwasnutswtf:  :uhhhfacepalm:
I've read a lot of stuff but all the studies seem useless. They compare different things: they cut a given quantity of fat or carbs from an original diet and then compare results. But that means they compare results of persons with DIFFERENT caloric input.
What i care about to know is , if for a given caloric input, trying to have a 'lower' carb or fat input would be benetcial. And what is 'low' for each anyway? Anything below 'standard' BMR suggestions?

Here is a graph of my macros this month ( values are g , so yes, calories graph would be different ). See how carbs peaks follow protein peaks while fat is generally steady with random peaks:



Any notes on it? How do those quantities seem to you all diet freaks?


inb4 : if protein is high and total calories are the planned, IT DOESN'T MATTER!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 26, 2016, 05:24:51 am »
25 February 2016

Bodyweight@session : ~89kg
Soreness : none
Injuries/aches : none

T0DDDAY'S GPP

Workout #15 ( Week #6 )

SUPERSET 1 - SQUAT ++ OHP:
6@82,5kg ++ 8@42,5kg
6@82,5kg ++ 8@42,5kg
6@82,5kg ++ 8@42,5kg
6@72,5kg ++ 8@42,5kg
-Terrible again. Bad form, quads jurting, feeling annoyed and angry , bleh.
I took off 10kg at las set just to see what would happen. It kinda worked, felt better.

SUPERSET 2 - BSS ++ PULLUPS:
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 10
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 6 + 4
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 6 + 4
8 each leg @ 40kg ++ 6 + 4
-Nice. BSS eccentrics feeling it a bit but ok.
Pullups were strong but doing 10 at the first set came with a price, couldn't go over 6 straight at all the others. Still great.

SUPERSET 3 - RDL ++ LEG RAISE:
20@55kg ++ 20
15@75kg ++ 20
10@95kg ++ 20
5@115kg ++ 20
-Switched to straight(er) legs for raises. Got all reps but was sooo much harder.
RDL steady, no reason to up loads currently, this feels a perfect combination of weight and volume, i keep working on glute-drive.

Soooo, looked back at my log. It is almost a month now that I complain about dead legs and very hard squats. Squat load was 77,5kg at the time, yet although i complained at almost every workout since, i somehow added 10kg on my working load in two weeks while doing that program 3 times a week AND playing full court basketball once a week. I think it is safe to say i kinda burned-out myself. Just can't get how i kept adding weight while having tired and hurting legs. Anyway!
I am not quitting this program. I like it. I just have to take a step back , either you see it as a reset or as a deload. I am dropping my squat load to 75kg next time and keeping it there for a few workouts to see what happens. Maybe drop the BSS load to 30kg too. Will try to keep up with SMR and stretch too, i am not good at that but i will try.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 25, 2016, 12:06:28 pm »
Cardio does interfere with the next supersets too , obviously not as much as with the second part of the same superset that you have to enter at 150+bpm .But even 120-130bpm which is the entry HR of the next superset is a lot. Also as sets go by, you accumulate a lot of fatigue, HR still drops but your body is more tired, just like going out and doing interval sprints, the more sets you do the harder they get.
This workout lasts around 50 minutes from the time you start your first set. Every set is around 2 minutes so 12*2 = 24 minutes . Breaks are 2 minutes too , 11*2 = 22 minutes. Add a couple of minutes for relocating & setting up the next exercise so there you are , 24+22+ 4 = 50,

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: February 25, 2016, 11:18:06 am »
^ Well, for this GPP thing i use 2 minutes between super-sets.
That means no rest at all between the superset exercises. Plate changing doesn't count as rest either.
e.g. , i do squats @ 82,5kg + OHP @42,5kg superset. So i put the 10kg+1,25kg plates on the inside and the 20kg plates on the outside. And it goes like:
Unrack, squat , re-rerack, remove 20kg plates , take a couple of breaths ( literally, a couple ), unrack for OHP, do OHP , re-rack, add 20kg plates , rest 2 minutes, restart.
For between exercises i count 2 minutes after i have set-up completely for the next exercise. e.g. do last squat+OHP superset, empty plates, go to smith machine, set-up step for back-leg , set weights, rest 2 minutes, start BSS+pullups supersets.
It is quite demanding, at the end of each superset HR is above 160, sometimes over 170 too. But that is the point. Recovery adapts and improves very fast. Currently, after 5 weeks in this thing, my HR drops from that 160-170 to around 120 in those 2 minutes of rest.

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