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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: beast
« on: June 12, 2014, 03:49:24 am »
I find baseball "that weird American sport", but that was kinda cool.

1727
Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: June 12, 2014, 03:45:11 am »
Are you right now at the level where you can "break in" copyrighted software and crack it (if you were to put your mind to that)?

1728
Step-ups... very interesting...

1729
Maybe you should alternate in between the best (4 steps in LBSS's case) run-up and the "little bit worse" run-up, 5 steps in LBSS's case. So that you can kind of progress towards the longer, more reactive run-up (hopefully).

I'm of the same opinion about depth jumps. I would use a box that gives you the best jump, but also use a SLIGHTLY higher box (maybe by 10% or so) so that I can get used with the higher stimuli.

So I would alternate say a 20 inch box with a 22 inch box depth jump. Go with a 4 step run-up 5 times and with a 5 step run-up 5 times, repeat etc.

But in scooby's case, definitely what LBSS said about progressing is the best way right now.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: June 11, 2014, 04:23:55 pm »
Glute soreness? I guess you're using the glutes on those half squats eh? :D

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Yeah, what I meant is that you're still getting some benefit. Of course you should work to get the maximum amount of benefit with the minimum injury risk from the bounds, but it takes time to perfect them. It's good that now you're aware of what to do.

1732
It's interesting, but maybe someone's pelvic tilt might have to also do SOMETHING about where the belt is positioned.

I'm in anterior tilt, and I like to keep my pants really up towards my belly button as well. It looks weird and funny to people, but that's how I'm the most comfortable. Something to think about, I guess.

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Do you purposefully keep the belt that high? I've read about keeping the belt that high for deadlifts somewhere, but I forgot where. Maybe it was in a video by babyslayer or something.

1734
You do? So you never list them then?

1735
But how do we define "reactive ability"?

To me, reactive ability means the ability to:

1) Do quick consecutive jumps without too much muscle contribution (explosive muscle isometrics, tendon contributions);
2) Coordinate yourself at high speeds generating high amounts of power;
3) Generate good triple extension in a jump after a significant prestretch has occured;
4) Generate a ton of power quickly (same as 1) - quick voluntary power generation + accumulated involuntary power (tendon deformation + additional neural activation) = a high jump = a powerful movement = win);
5) Not collapse in high speed plants (quickly lock up, similar to 1)) / make use of your calves;

And there must be others but this is what came up in my head in 20 seconds.

If you can show me how squatting accomplishes 1), 2), 3), 4) and 5), then yeah, go for squatting only.

If not, but you want to focus on strength training now since it's winter anyway, then at least do a bunch of plyos/jumps before the strength work, and stop beating yourself to death with maximal failed attempts. That's all I'm saying.

Anyway, I've talked way too much already so... whatever you choose to do, good luck.

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It may make a small difference (say 2-5%) but that's about it. That's not a good return of investment. I know i'll get more out of squats than any of that plyomumbojumpo. It's an icing to the cake, something you do when you've tapped out from squatting. IMHO.

Translation:

"I know you're right... but I don't want to do plyo work because I suck at it and I will get depressed by my display in it. So I'd rather continue strength training and pretend nothing works, so at least I have something else to blame besides myself".

1737
And to add to that - what you're doing in the weightroom does not really promote hip extension and DOESN'T promote hip hyperextension AT ALL. And these two things are paramount to jumping and being athletic (and even healthy).

Could you do stuff for the actual hip extension and hyperextension in the gym? Well, yeah, you could do hip thrusts, you could do KB swings, you could do cleans and snatches.

But you could also do hip dominant plyo work (bounding, off both one and two legs) and jumping and sprinting in general. These also promote actual triple extension instead of the deceleration that occurs with squatting at the top.

So, the thing with the squat is yes, it's the best muscle builder exercise. But it's not THAT specific to jumping. It's an assistance exercise to jumping, running, sprinting etc. These are all displays of reactivity.

You don't get athletes going to a spot, taking 10 seconds to pause and take a standing vertical jump in a real life, based 100% on their squat strength. If you were training like Kingfish specifically for the standing VJ (although I don't know why, but still) - then yeah, squatting alone would kinda make sense.

But if you want to be an athlete, if you want to be able to USE all that strength in a "functional" manner - that is - jump and dunk in games, get past your defender, be able to change directions etc etc etc - then you gotta do reactive work. It's not that complicated to understand.

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Well, I have the perfect proof in the world for you:

Back in the day I was training on the track with a guy, we called him "the curly haired" or "Cretu" in Romanian.

And he was the slowest, weakest, most slow-twitch guy you have ever met. He would suck so badly that everybody was making fun of him. He was long as heck though (not out of the world long, but long).

And he was training for the high jump. And man he was weak. He was looking like you are right now moving around, but without your strength levels.

But he kept at it and continued to train on the track for the high jump. He did this for (now) I think ~10 years or so.

Wonder where he is now? Well...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_QattViB5I" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_QattViB5I</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3cJwCKILg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR3cJwCKILg</a>

I guess you can't become reactive afterall.

1739
This is very interesting as well:

http://inno-sport.net/Get%20Your%20Bound%20Out.htm

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Hey LBSS, do you actually do a progression (different exercises than the bounds themselves) or you go directly into bounds?

Because I suck much more than you at them, I can't even visualize in my head what to do (for the LRLR version).

I also partially disagree with Today - yeah, you might not get the hip action yet, but you get plenty of calf and foot "stimulation". So let's not ignore that part, especially for you.

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