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My opinion is that half-squats are never a legitimate exercise for any purpose under any circumstances.

Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+.

I do not think partial squats are SPP. I think they are an ineffective way to train anything, because their mechanics are sufficiently different from normal human movement patterns that they are actually counterproductive.

You can't create "elite" jumping numbers (36"+) with any kind of squat if elite jumping genetics are not already there

And what the hell does bodyfat have to do with this as a training goal?

My rule of thumb in these matters is ABOUT 25% improvement in untrained vs trained SVJ, with emphasis on the S. I didn't make the goddamn percentages up -- they are the consensus of every high-level S&C coach I've talked to about this, every high-level athlete that has trained the SVJ for performance, and my own personal experience.

Half squats are used -- and their use rationalized in this way -- by coaches that do not know how to teach the full squat successfully, that have never disciplined themselves to learn and use the full squat personally, and that run typical shitty collegiate S&C programs that get by because their recruiters put enough genetics on the team that it looks like half-squats and Hammer Strength actually work.


- Mark Fucking Rippetoe

HAHHHA GOMAD GOGGLES FOR THE WIN!!!

That quote has been mis-quoted all the time. I always hear the 15% version of it...

I think the truth is that you only use 15% at a time.

If you are able to squat 90% of your 1 rep max 6 times then you are not explosive enough.

I can't.

This shows that you have a nervous system more geared toward strength than you do speed.  Because of this, you should focus more on speed and do less squatting or strength dominant exercises.

Possibly, but actually, I can't tolerate higher rep work (>5 reps). If my last rep on a squat slows down a little, there's a rare chance I can get more than an extra rep. I've been told that I'm pretty explosive in my squats: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMbuo7PetZw I need long pauses in between reps if I want to survive. Not only that, but in person, that 5th rep felt like HELL and there was NO WAY I coulda done another rep, yet some people thought I had another 2 or 3 in me.

The reason I say squat once a week is so you can feel fresh enough do plyo's and sprints 2-3 times a week.

Friday is a recovery squat workout. It will help me feel fresher. In addition, the wednesday workout looks like it wont hurt too much that it'll hinder my friday workout. Of course, I can auto-regulate that if I'm wrong.

 Since you will be losing weight, it is more draining on you to have to squat 3 times a week then it is to do low volume speed workouts.

Of course it will be, but that Friday recovery squat will not drain me whatsoever. I've done them before. Plus, even if it were a tiny bit draining, i have 2 days of rest after that, not 1.

Have you ever tried only lifting heavy once a week?  You think you will lose strength, but in actuality you will not.  If you are slightly overtrained than it is possible to make gains.

My experience tells me that squatting once a week makes me lose a bunch of poundage.... actually.... JUST THIS WEEK IT HAPPENED AND IT MAKES ME ANGRY  

Friday (04/29/11)--------------Squat 335 x 5, 5, 5
Monday (05/02/11)------------Squat 340 x 5, 5, 5
Wednesday (05/04/11)--------Squat 315 x 1 (light day)
Friday (05/06/11) -------------Squat 345 x 5, 5, 5
Monday (05/09/11)------------Squat 350 x 5, 5, 5
Thursday (05/12/11) ----------Squat 355 x 5, 5, 5
Saturday (05/14/11) ----------Squat 315 x 1 (light day)
Tuesday (05/17/11) -----------Squat 360 x 5, 4, 3
Friday (05/20/11) --------------Squat 360 x 5, 5, 5
Sunday (05/22/11) ------------Squat  365 x 10sec, 10sec, 10sec, 10sec, 10sec (just unracks to feel the weight)
Tuesday (05/24/11) -----------Squat 365 x 5, 4, 3

Friday (05/27/11) --------------Squat 315 x 1 (light day)

Wednesday (06/01/11) --------Squat, 365 x 2, 1


Yep. High frequency has always been better for increasing my strength. Whenever I don't squat for about 4 or 5 days I always lose strength. In fact, the reason I did smolov jr for squats a while back was because I missed a few days of squatting and my squat PLUMMETED. And since high frequency works for me, smolov jr exploded my squat numbers up 80lbs in 9 weeks.

In my log snippets up there, notice the constant increasing weight as I squat about 3x a week, and then the drop in the number of times I can rep out 365lbs by the end when I squat less frequently. I went from 365x5 to 365x2 (420 1RM to 385 1RM) simply because I squatted heavy only once in that final week.


And these two cases are not the only times this has happened. There are others, but now I've learned my lesson.

If you lose strength, it will mainly be due to the fact that you're losing weight.  Trust me, if you cut to 185, (35 pounds in 1 summer) you will feel like complete shit, and the last thing you'll want to do is get your ass under a heavy bar 3 times a week.

I will probably feel like crap... my prediction is that I will auto-regulate a lot and lower the weight to 83% instead of 87% on Wednesdays. Actually, it would be better to switch my wed squat with fri squat since the wed is a little tougher, and i can lower the percentage like i said and have 2 days rest after it. then I should be good to go.

You will, however, feel much more agile and springy.  Take advantage of this by training for power and speed. Once you start eating at optimal levels again your gains will be significant.

  

Quote from: Dreyth on May 29, 2011, 09:07:42 pm

If full is only breaking parallel, than that's 1/3 squat.
If full is atg, then that's 1/4 squat.

Decide on "full squat" first!

First than, and then then?

I don't understand 

take 2,000 jumpshots and try to keep your form absolutely identical on every shot.

tomorrow you will be on fire.

I don't think the squats are too heavy at all. Anyway, the main focus of my program is to increase my relative squat by maintaining it while losing bodyweight. I just figured that I may as well add some plyos if I'm not going to go too hard on the squats.

Yes, I'm squatting 3 days close to 90% of my max, but the weight I use never goes above my 6RM! Think of it that way. I did 365x5 last week. I want to get up to 375 for 3x5 (making my 375 a 6RM). Doing 3x3 with that weight (2 less reps each set) on Monday is the hardest I go. Then I just do 3 singles with that weight on Wednesday, then I workup to just one single at that weight on Friday. To me it feels a little bit light actually.

Quote from: Raptor on May 25, 2011, 03:58:30 am

One can only wonder how much you could squat low bar.

Why the -1 rating?

wtf, didnt even realize that was there. or that i did it accidentally.

since when did we have ratings? +1