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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 26, 2016, 11:12:41 pm »
BW: 78kg

Maintaining ~78kg it seems but im leaner .. so i guess i can complain but it means ive gained muscle while getting leaner ;) Not a bad deal. Weather is not great today, cold and wet. I really wanted to sprint :( May do dunks instead

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 25, 2016, 11:50:12 pm »
BW: 77.9kg (!!!)

So this is prob the leanest ive been since summer, i think. Still fat tho but im on the right track. I have the pressing thoughts:

1. building up my squat without regular dunking is a terrible thing
2. i shud jump regularly so squat gains convert / carry over to dunking
3. make hay while the sun is out (or while im still a fatty) - 'weighted' dunking will help me which is what this layer of adipose around me serves as

wont go crazy and do loads of dunks all at once, will gradually build up to it. but will def do a few tmr (sat) and maybe sun if i play pickup

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 25, 2016, 10:55:16 am »
Game was bomb. We played the top team. Lost by 12 points in the end but the whole time i thought we were winning! score doesnt tell the full story tho, we kinda let it get away from us in the last 5 minutes, ppl werent playing defense and it made me sad. lol. im going to play every game as though we're winning, makes me more positive! We had 5 and they had 8 players. No subs for us. I was flat out protecting the rim. Got a few bs foul calls so i had to turn it down in teh 2nd half but we were right in there at the half, outscored them even. Ran out of steam though ... i had 2 fg attempts and made good on both .. set a load of screens for our shooters .. they were ono fire tonight ... thankfully otherwise it could have been a one sided carnage. Im pumped, will meet them again, hopefully in the finals and they're going to lose...

i played really well... im happy, prob the best game ive played this year. And that's with all this squat fatigue while cutting. Can't wait to peak!!!!!!!!!!

love the quarter squats btw .. oh and i landed my first dunk in 3 weeks, it barely rattled in, my ankle complained so i didnt tempt fate. it will take time to get to 100% so i will be patient

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In my case this summer gone i attained 1.8xbw but i didnt use partials .. i shud have tho to see if i cud break 35" .. esp since i was then and still am a quad dominant jumper. All good, have added them in now and will keep then in to see what effect they have.

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2xbw full squat then partials is a good thing to tell people. most ppl wont even bother trying for it but once you enter the journey then either you attain it or you dont. At some point it's fine to say, im going to use partials now to peak and extract the most gains out of my body right now. the alternative is never getting to 2xbw and never finding out how high you really can jump bc you save peaking for a day that never comes lol

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 25, 2016, 04:27:52 am »
BS 4x120(LPR), 1x125
¼BS 6x150(warmup PR), 5x180(PR), 8x160(PR)
JS 6x70, 6x100(LPR)
Push Press 3x6x62.5(LPR)

BW: 78.1kg

game to come

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I do agree that its easy to fudge the depth on quarters .. however, if you use them as an assistance, who really cares .. as long as you're getting better at adding weight and can maintain or improve depth over time?

Im 3 weeks in into a quarter squat program .. i do them once a week ... too early yet to say yay or nay but im digging them so far. Wish i had tried them sooner.. will report back after a while to see what affect if any has been noticed

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 24, 2016, 11:56:31 pm »
^haha thanks Coges.

Startna come off that refeed .. 78.1kg / 172.2lb today. It's been like 3 weeks or more since i dunked (!!). I am thinking i shud force myself to try, just to see how bad ive gotten? Will try.

Have training scheduled today and possibly a game tonight ... shud be a good day ...

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tis interesting however i wonder how well using full squats mainly and quarters as assistance would go? or vice versa. I feel it wud work better in some sense

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 24, 2016, 02:17:01 am »
Yesterday's eating:
 
1 shake, grilled chicken burger from hjs
1 52g mars bar
250mL gatorade

1 shake
2 chicken breasts
triple cheeseburger from hjs (-2 slices cheese)
3 slices of pizza (2 chicken)
1 52g mars bar
1L of cookies & cream icecream

Loads of protein. Prob 250-300g? not sure bout calories but i prob went over maintenance there .. but since i was carb depleted it prob didn't matter fatloss wise. Anyway .. next refeed is saturday.

next day bw was 78.6kg (i think .. memory is hazy) .. so that's promising .. i usually gain a kilo of water weight following a refeed.. which means im on track to stabilise round 77kg ...

Today's eating (regular rest day meals)
fast til 5pm then have a shake
9-10pm i'll have 2 chicken breasts and a shake, some carbs (prob bread)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 23, 2016, 10:32:24 am »
Got too late and i didnt get a chance to do curls.. was due to crack the big 60kg milestone ... lol.. will try fit it in next workout. Grow little mammals grow!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 23, 2016, 04:20:01 am »
BS 6x110, 6x112.5(LPR), 6x110, 6x110, 6x107.5 (volume LPR at 30 reps)
BP 5x80(LPR), 5x79.5(LPR), 5x77.5, 6x75(LPR)

RDL 8x135(LPR), 6x140(LPR), 10x150(LPR; hook)
BHT 8x150(LPR), 6x160(LPR)

BW: 77.6kg / 171.1lb (LPR!)

Notes:
Last night before going to bed i caught myself in the  bathroom mirror while changing and i looked suddenly ripped ... cud see my abz and striatations  around my torso clearly .. so i knew something had happened. Today the scale registered and skinfolds are smaller too. Im not far from getting to 77kg now. Just have to keep trainign hard and eating clean. Also sprint regularly.

Forced myself to do a 5th set of 6. It's aite, it was messy but i got it. I want to do 5 sets of 6 above 110kg (2 big plates a side  milestone for me) on saturday. Then the following week i can go for the big 6x6!

In another news, we're playing the top ranked team on thursday night. Mean whle im gonna be coming off a volume workout while cutting and working long hours. Shud be interesting. I may not take it too seriously cos injuries can happen and i odnt need that shit right now

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 23, 2016, 03:57:43 am »
Todday I am sold on your program. Work is bit crazy right now but give me a couple of weeks and im 100% in. Also i've started talking to a really promising girl as of yesterday and im gna try not mess things up like last time by being overkeen and killing her interes by ceasing to be a challenge. We have good chemistry and things are positive .. she ticks my boxes .. is smart, educated, decent and nice and i even find her attractive which is rare for girls i wanna marry as opposed to date. Will post here before i make any major moves as a sanity check!

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 20, 2016, 11:55:55 pm »
Quote from: T0dday
One of your tricks is carb-cycling and mini-starvation.  That's fine and good but a basketball player should never ever use the word refeed!  When Ray Allen became one of the best shooters in the world he maintained a bodyweight that was in a range of 2-3 pounds.  You are not doing this at all!  That's fine and good for peaking for competition.  What you are doing is done by many high jumpers and long jumpers - they cut carbs and hardly eat and even take diuretics like calcium citrate that don't show up on drug screens for important competitions.  Dropping 10 pounds in a week can be the difference between jumping 7'5 and jumping 7'8.   This is what you have realized.

I absolutely agree with you that you can't play at your best (or even close to it) when you're doing these tricks. There isnt really a place for it in-season if you care about winning. Doing it to get to a peak is fine but not as a long term strategy even if it's always intended as a temporary one (once i get to X i will stop .. ).

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But high jumpers don't constantly do this like you do because it's a terrible state to be in all the time to make long term gains.   Figure out what you have learned for peaking and use it sparingly when you get to a dunk contest - cut carbs, cut water, stim out, use hypergravity and jump as high as you can.  But you can't exist in that state if you want to be good at basketball.  I have done similar things, cut weight, used the weight vest, taken it off and been able to get ridiculous in game dunks at my height.... They are very impressive.. But if I play full court ball with competition in this state I basically run the fast break, play defense, rebound and cut to the hoop for dunks...  I don't try to get pretty or do stepbacks and even reverse layups become hard because I don't know my jumping ability well enough to time things...

 You can either relegate yourself to being that athletic role player or dedicate yourself to basketball which requires a stable bodyweight (you are saved by not having muscle so you have little glycogen and your refeeds are only a few pounds - if I cut and refeed it can be 20lbs over night...) and a stable level of stimulation...  In the long term not being glycogen depleted is what is going to help you lose the female body fat stores, build muscle and become a better player...

I love all those tricks. They're amazing. But they're staying firmly in the toolbox! I wanna see how far i can with just basics. For example right now im not using creatine. Just simple dieting and training hard. Once ive gotten somewhere i feel is decent i will employ the tricks .. but i dont think i am using them right now. When i say a refeed it deosnt mean ive been restricting carbs especially a lot otherwise .. it just means i eat MORE carbs after or during heavy training days. i say heavy to mean active not necessarily weights related. so on a day i lift weights, run sprints, maybe dunk etc i will eat more carbs. That's not a refeed as such in the context of a cyclical lowcarb diet. But im abusing the terminology all the same so i apologise for the confusion...

Right now im getting in shape and adding mass to my body and also getting leaner ... so ive got a good thing going. Will ride it as long as i can. Then peak (use some tricks you mentuioned). I know it's not goign to last, eventually you have to pick and choose one but for now im able to improve several areas simultaneously.

really hoping sprints will help me though..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: August 20, 2016, 11:37:08 pm »
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That's not to say you can't dunk in this state... It's just suboptimal... You will still get moments where you are bouncy and feel great in games, they just will have to come to you and won't always be there.  This is a choice you have to make - be the best at basketball and make long term gains or keep worrying about cutting weight and peaking vertical constantly.

Hmmm... but think when you've been dunking regularly that you can do it first thing in the morning getting out of bed cold .. when you're in that state, a dunk (just a basic one) is submax. And like doing a layup. I think its fine to dunk like that cos it doesnt overstimulate you. But going for the biggest tomawawk you can muster and hitting the rim hard -- that will def jack you up your CNS .. lol.

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