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Conversely the opposite of too much walking, no walking at all (in bed all day) is terrible for recovery or lifting the following day. it shortens my hamstrings or osmething and makes everything tighter and makes my back problems flare up. theres obviously an optimal amount of activity that maximises performance the following day. it's just not total rest .. as i found out again after this weekend

BW: 79.2kg (!!)

reminder i want 6x6x127.5 @ 77kg ... not 6x6x112.5 @ 79kg .. you fat fuck

No vest there mate. It's quite prominent. Will post video soon

I like the new vest, it almost feels like im not even wearing it (!) .. which i dont understand cos when i got my first one back in march it was a burden wearing it even with like 10kg. maybe it's cos my back is stronger now and i dont have a problem with +10kg? idk. the cons of this vest are that i CANNOT wear it in public discreetly. maybe with a big baggy hoody but maybe not even then. i dont know how im going to be able to use it outside lol. another downside is i cannot shoot or dunk 2 hands with it on so that means it limits the use .. but one hand movements (dunks, blocks etc) shud be ok. not that i cud wear it in a pickup game tho.

was able to dunk wiithout any problems at 81.4+10kg .. around 92kg total weight ..even tho initial unweighted dunks were challenging, i got enough movement efficiency quickly and was able to improve through the workout

i was thinking how do i make weighted vest training useful for me for vertical .. shud i be doing jumps w/o a ball but at a target or something? i might rig up a makeshift vertec i can PR every week and therefore improve ..

A note on gear. I think my squat will benefit from using knee sleeves more than others b/c i have small knee joints and calves and hamstrings (near the knee). In comparison my thighs are HUGE. So as the weight gets heavier my squat overwhelms my knees but if i can use knee sleeves, while it wont get much assistance the way pls get out of wraps, i will still benefit from more stability provided by the sleeves, if that makes sense. Never used a pair of sleeves tho, so idk if this bears out irl. anyway, am not touching them yet but something for later. But the discrepancy btw my upper and lower leg is stark and it does suggest i will benefit from them.

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sorry, insta is annoying, i cant upload directly from pc,cant be bothered with all of that, will just use youtube..

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edit, so this is what i put up in my log
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4WgRtg0veg

and this one was done a week later
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnrfyIKbyAU
also have the unweighted dunks after that;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0HDbet8omU

i did heavier than that the following weeks but i dont have that on tape. a nd the last set of weighted dunks i have on tape (days before the comp) but it's full HD and the vid is like 1-4gb .. will take too long to upload unless i edit but i dont have any decent editor available (linux is a ghetto).

Hmm... Well I guess dunks are sort of a hard measure to use.  You seem to be pretty proficient at it.  The most important question is... How high are you jumping? 

What it looks like is with 95kg your hardly getting up.  To my eye it looks like about 24 inches off the ground.  Going back to your natural weight of 75kg you would expect a 1.25 boost or a 32 inch jump - maybe you jumping more like 33 in the dunks...

That's what it looks like... What's the actual height?  I mean if I recall you only like 6'2 but honestly the air space in the videos looks off... I mean I don't know guys in that height range that can dunk like you, like the stretch style.   I guess it just requires you to measure arm length and actual vertical...

yep by comp time i was really profficient. i cud literally jump out of bed cold and do a submax dunk without even trying. i have long thought my dunking is overspecialised, i cud prob benefit from trying different things to mix things up like approaching from the other side of the rim, changing plant, doing SL dunks etc. Just to improve my athleticism. My reach is 98" barefoot. it goes up a little with shoes. but ya im not jumping high on weighted dunks above 85kg. around 95-100kg im llucky to land one, most are misses. but. i think i get more air and more normal form when using about +10kg than i do with more than that. my new weight vest (i left the old one in brisbane after the comp) only goes up to 10kg so that shud keep my addiction to adidng weight in check

Ah ok.  That makes more sense.  Your reach in shoes has you only about 20" away from the rim.  And with your palming ability your really able to dunk without getting up...  I agree that your probably right that being 100kg is far too heavy for you but I wouldn't be surprised if 10kg is overkill as well...  Remember the similarity between running and sprinting that separates elite from the rest - accelerating a light body...  Best results are around 10% of bw for most people and you are lighter than 100kg.

At your level I would just use the formula I mentioned.  Vbw/bw * vested_jump = predicted-jump.  Use the most weight you can until the drop off in predicted jump falls.  Like if your max jump is 35" and your predicted jump w 5kg,6kg,7kg,8kg is 32,33,33,31... You would want 7kg and train to push this up past 35". 

If you are already at the point where a heavy vested jump puts your predicted jump far past your actual jump.... the DO NOT use the weight vest!  Your are so far to the right on the strength curve that you are wasting your time with vested jumps.  This is where I assumed you were but there's a good chance I'm wrong in light of your reach being as high as it is... But if you are here you really don't need to build this motor - making it more powerful when you already don't know how use it will set you back in the long term...  I had a good discussion about this with one of the elite coaches and he talked about how rare this is (most sprinters and jumpers are weak and extremely efficient) but how if you find someone here you need to get them to harness their power asap.

It explains why i struggle to get eg a windmill, cos my airtime is low i don thave enough time to go thru the motions. That was my working theory anyway! Even on loewr rims i cant land a windmill

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8CnejSEQDw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8CnejSEQDw</a>

interesting .. this is from 2015, cliffs:

10. Nike Lebron 13
9. Nike Kobe 10
8. Nike Kyrie 1
7. Nike Hyperrev 2015
6. Nike Hyperdunk 2015
5. Nike Kd 8
4. Nike Zoom Lebron Soldier 9
3. Nike KD Trey 5 iii
2. Nike KB Mentality
1. Nike Hyperquickness 2015

mine are 2, kb mentality. and yea i agree they're pretty light but i want lighter lol. and i think (not confirmed) the kb mentality 2 are lighter. may get a pair of those or the kb 11s, not sure which, hmmmm.