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Crazy Weird Analysis & Stuff :) / Re: Vert wearable device
« on: September 09, 2016, 09:31:04 am »
^nah, it's fine a couple of inches below the wrist but beyond that it's not easy to tell or gauge progress .. plus no one wants to jump up and touch a target with their forearm, that's dumb.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 09, 2016, 08:44:01 am »
Quote from: Final Phenom on September 09, 2016, 08:34:41 am
Be cool and make your own ghetto vertec like me. Literally took me like an hour to make it once I figured out a good place to put it and how it would move around. Every once in a while I read about one forum member or another struggling to measure reach or not having a good target etc. and I laugh in my head at your pleb struggles.  :P

I'll take a pic and edit it into this post later today, but it's nothing special. I'm sure you can make a different design to fit your environment/needs, especially if you put some time into it.

sounds nice! and to be honest, i may need that .. cos i dont think i can wear my weightvest out .. people get very concerned. if i can set something up to do weighted jumps at home and PR them regularly that would be really nice. i can have another way to PR my vert on a bball court (working on that atm).

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Crazy Weird Analysis & Stuff :) / Re: Vert wearable device
« on: September 09, 2016, 07:14:21 am »
Yeah. there is a diff btw measuring vert for a study and as a training tool. I agree a training tool which helps you unlock your own natural athleticism like tryna reach up and touch a faraway point is better than doing a jump then looking at your phone to get a reading. The former will prob let you train harder and jump higher as a training tool whereas the latter won't b/c the feedback isn't as real-time or tangible.

I am imagining a device you can put either on the rim or along the backboard which serves as a makeshift vertec. A rim works fine if you're 5 foot something and have to jump 30" to reach the rim but if you are like me and need to jump 22" to touch the rim then rim doesn't really work as a target. Gna try invent something lol

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 09, 2016, 06:50:06 am »
What i mean is that i dont like the idea of jumping to touch the backboard that high up (top of the square).. it's really unnatural a target to jump for. But i would like to be able to get a touch that high, it corresponds to a 36" jump for me, from memory, which is a great goal in itself

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: September 09, 2016, 02:13:46 am »
Quote from: adarqui on September 08, 2016, 05:13:25 pm
consistency consistency .. consistency.

gold! hey i was looking for the forum feedback thread, not sure where it is haha but i was wondering if we could eventually get https access to the forum. woudl be nice.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 09, 2016, 12:29:20 am »
Quote from: acole14 on September 08, 2016, 11:55:41 pm
Quote from: maxent on September 08, 2016, 11:00:24 pm
Hmmm. So what do you suggest. Shud I do more jumps without a ball to get a more efficient technique?

Yes!

Quote from: maxent on September 08, 2016, 11:00:24 pm
I realised that in the accelerometer thread. You guys can get a good workout by jumping at the rim b/c getting a palm over the rim is 30"+ palm touch but for me an SVJ to the rim is only 22" and a wrist touch is a nothing special 27" or whtaever. If i have ambitions of cracking 40" - then jumps at the rim wont mean anything unless im touching deep down my arm but this isn't as really a good workout cos you dont jump up to touch a target with your forearm (who does?) - it works better when you're tryina touch a target with your hand. I get that now. Unless i figure out a way to make a rim 12" higher, it wont be a good workout. But i shud be doing more jumps without a ball (and not talking about jump squats or depth jumps) - so how do i make a good workout with these restrictions? The reason i wanted a device to measure my vertical was to get feedback so i can PR my leap in a workout and get better at jumping over time.

Sure that makes sense, for you a better target would be distance from the top of the square or alternatively, head to the backboard. Both have set heights and are more in your range. Or use the best accelerometer you can get, I wasn't trying to completely badmouth those vert devices in the other thread, they just don't really add much value but if money is no object and they can at least give you a consistent measure then go for one of those.

No you're right, jump and stretch for a distant target is the most natural way to get the body to figure out how to jump higher and higher. But if rim is too low, then yes top of square is a better height to aim for - but it's not a good target and neither is head on backboard (really?!) - these are terrible targets to aim for. I'm gna figure this out. Have something in mind .. will see it through and report back.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 08, 2016, 11:47:13 pm »
Ok the good news ...

bw: 78.6kg (post refeed PR!!)

so if my calculations are correct, im withing 600g of my goal weight of 77kg -- assuming that i gain 1kg of water weight post refeeds. Last night i ate a ton of carbs in tryna get myself recovered for saturday's marathon 6x6 squats + and other shit including sprints, bhts, chinups, cable rows, lat pull downs, curls.... :o yikes.

im going to make some changes though. this is the last week of fasting during rest days. i find at work i cant focus and the hunger is starting to get to me. i cud add in l-tyrosine but im not sure i wanna go down that path? well. so i will start to stop the longer fasts next week during rest days. and also add more calories (a shake is too little lol) ... but i still wanna see the scale read 77kg the day i wake up to squat 6x6x127.5 -- this just means i have to be stricter on active days (cut out the sugar) and take a longer term approach to seeing scale changes (order of 3 weeks at a time?). ok lets get it done.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 08, 2016, 11:42:23 pm »
Quote from: Coges on September 08, 2016, 11:38:08 pm
Quote from: maxent on September 08, 2016, 11:00:24 pm
I'm def starting to suspect the ball and the rim being the culprits in holding me back in mediocrity.

Lol

it's a conspiracy  :lololol:

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 08, 2016, 11:00:24 pm »
Hmmm. So what do you suggest. Shud I do more jumps without a ball to get a more efficient technique? I'm def starting to suspect the ball and the rim being the culprits in holding me back in mediocrity. I realised that in the accelerometer thread. You guys can get a good workout by jumping at the rim b/c getting a palm over the rim is 30"+ palm touch but for me an SVJ to the rim is only 22" and a wrist touch is a nothing special 27" or whtaever. If i have ambitions of cracking 40" - then jumps at the rim wont mean anything unless im touching deep down my arm but this isn't as really a good workout cos you dont jump up to touch a target with your forearm (who does?) - it works better when you're tryina touch a target with your hand. I get that now. Unless i figure out a way to make a rim 12" higher, it wont be a good workout. But i shud be doing more jumps without a ball (and not talking about jump squats or depth jumps) - so how do i make a good workout with these restrictions? The reason i wanted a device to measure my vertical was to get feedback so i can PR my leap in a workout and get better at jumping over time.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 08, 2016, 06:09:32 am »
Quote from: acole14 on September 08, 2016, 06:07:59 am
I don't understand, is this a single leg thing? Can you post it?

check pm

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 08, 2016, 04:59:56 am »
Watching my friend's dunk video on insta, i noticed how he has a strong leg kick to initiate his dunk. I still to this day have zero kick in mine. Am i leaving inches on the table?? how do i fix this

edit. im watching it more closely and he begins his dunk with the leg kick and arm swing (from the bottom) simultaneously. obviously this is an self oop. maybe i need to practice lob dunks cos then i can have more freedom to work on my technique. lbss has mentioned i dont use arm swing eiother(?) so idk. i have room to improve

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 07, 2016, 10:08:46 pm »
BW: 78.4kg (thats better)

feel pretty fresh, just a bit tender lower back but otherwise ready to beast training. will update
BS 6x120(LPR!), 2x125B(warmup LPR), 2x130B(LPR)
QBS 8x160(+10kg,+2reps), 8x192.5(PR; +2.5kg, +2reps), 8x172.5(+2.5kg) 
Push Press 2x6x65(LPR)
JS 2x6x110(LPR)

Notes:

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Crazy Weird Analysis & Stuff :) / Re: Vert wearable device
« on: September 07, 2016, 10:07:01 pm »
To be honest i dont know if they have any special sauce which you can't get with any device with an accelerometer. eg go on aliexpress and you can pick up a chip with bluetooth 4.0, accelerometer etc for $1/each. There's also more 'established' alternatives with sensor devices like the Metawear R for around $38 usd. Im tempted to get a few units off aliexpress and play with them. The vert linked above seems to be IOS only .. and it seems way overpriced to me for what it does.

I really do like the idea of exploring putting an accelerometer on your COM to get true vertical instead of stretchy/tippy toey/ vertical but i do have some doubts. for one how do you find ones COM accurately? does it even matter? And finally .. how does it compare to say video. Did anyone work out a good way to get accurate vertical off video? using COM i guess

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Crazy Weird Analysis & Stuff :) / Vert wearable device
« on: September 07, 2016, 11:45:45 am »
https://www.myvert.com/collections/vert/products/vert-wearable-jump-monitor

VERT Wearable Jump Monitor with Jump Rate is a device worn near the waist of an athlete either by the VERTclip (for combines and quick testing) or integrated within an article of clothing such as the VERTbelt (for practice and games).

anyone used one? how accurate? wud be interesting to see the results compared against a known reliable method (Vertec) ..

i wouldnt mind hacking up something similar if it's reliable with older phones lying around

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: September 07, 2016, 11:03:28 am »
Got decent quad doms .. hamstrings are also sore but that's not new lol. it is remarkable that my quads be sore since they were completely fresh after the weekends 6x6 squats + sprints. i think my first  weighted dunks are telling me something useful, im a quad dominant jumper ... being able to put on a 10kg weight vest and land dunks on the same day means the quarter squats etc have been working in getting my jumping muscles stronger. so my hunch that i need more quad (mass & strength) is gaining confidence.

game tmr and mo squatting (bs, belted bs, quarter squats, jump squats) followed by dunks and a game .. yikes.

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