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http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/jumpersknee.html

Holy shit when I started getting the pain I had LITERALLY every symptom that he put there. (low cardio, very strong quads, right quads)

It's time to work on my hamstrings directly. And it's weird, I think I have the REAL jumper's knee as he states it, yet I definitely don't have pain on the top of my knee. It's on the bottom before the top of the tibia. In that tissue area.

Now I'm really lost. To help cure it, he says that you should drop ALL quad work that causes the pain, but if it's LOWER knee tendonitis, then quad work actually HELPS.

WTF do i do? I know for sure I'll maintain the squat because if I don't go too heavy it doesn't hurt. I'll strengthen my hamstrings. I'll stretch and foam roll the quads. I'll add in hip mobility work, and I'll continue taking 3 caps of fish oil a day.

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Curing jumper's knee?
« on: February 04, 2012, 12:55:32 pm »
I now have patellar tendonitis in both my knees, but much more so in my left knee. I plant LR when I jump, and it hurts the most when I jump. When I jump, it hurts both knees. If I don't warm up before squatting, it hurts a lot when I squat (only left knee here).

It's extremely annoying because I can't practice my jumping and my squat progress has stalled. My reps on the squat are done VERY slowly so it won't hurt as much, plus I'm contracting the abs MUCH more to stay stable.

Does anybody have any advice on how to fix it? I don't want to get rid of the pain, I want to get rid of the problem. Thanks.

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Injury, Prehab, & Rehab talk for the brittlebros / Re: Rehab Mode + Results
« on: February 02, 2012, 02:16:36 pm »
What leg injury did you have?

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i might have jinxd u when i asked for the "getting pinned vids".. i knew eventually something like this would happen. if it was that easy, (7 week in your case) then everybody would be squatting 4 plates... it just makes taking a 405x5 vid that much more rewarding if you get it.

IMO - you burned out because you are dishing so much effort in getting the x4 and the x7 weights.. there should be a time to focus on just getting the top set of 4, or the multi set of 7.. can't have all at once.

the worst you can do right now is stop lifting heavy. at least single a near max so you still get the form (of lifting heavy) going.
 

The mixed sets of 4 and 7 was an experiment to see if it would stimulate quick gains and it did... quick gains, and sustained gains for 7 weeks straight.

I'm not sure if I burned out, I probably could have continued at a rate of 5lbs a week instead of 10lbs a week after that for like 2 weeks. I was close though.

I thought the de-load would help since I was near-burnout, but I guess I just de-loaded improperly. This is maybe the third time something like this has happened to my squat after a de-load.

And I can't believe burnouts drop my squat ~70lbs that's insane. Took so much effort to get there.

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Ok I had just typed up a long post, but the summary was yes, it is all neural.

First though I'd liketo know,
1. Why did you deload?


I wanted to come back strong for a 405x5 on video, a milestone I never thought I would achieve.


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2. How much did you "feel" like squatting during those first 7 weeks, versus the other 4 weeks when you lost strength?


When I was making gains I couldn't wait to go squat, but after I dropped so much I lost a lot of motivation.

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After one week of deloading, you said 405 felt heavy. From my own experience, i think this is because the volume was WAY too low. Keeping voume higher will keep the motor pattern for squatting intact.

Work sets were 4 reps. I thought 1 rep for a de-load, 2 or 3x a week would be fine. I think I only did it twice a week though. Maybe I should have done doubles and some back-off sets with more reps then.

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Your programming looks weird. 2 heavy singles per week is not enough for most people to maintain their squat. Your training frequency declined as well. So your deloading-schedule might have been the cause for the decline in squat numbers.

The ongoing decline is probably because of your setup being not suitable for your training advancement. The 355 x 5 x 3 you have been doing would have felt heavy for most people with your strength. You are not adapted to doing heavy sets with 5ths, because you have been doing 7ths before at lighter weights. So that is not really strange. That the numbers got down further might just be an indicator of you not being able to recover from the current schedule which, again, is plausible. You are an intermediate trainee and going for 5 x 3 twice per week might just be too much, especially without recovery day.

My advise would be a Texas method setup from now on. You can keep the sets across with 5s on Monday, put a light day in there and go for high weights, low volume on Fri/Sat. You might find that much more easy to recover from and you get enough squat practice to progress further.

Thanks for the reply. The only then left is recovery/neural strength which I just posted up there ^^ must be from the de-load.

I think I'll have to give it some time to get my body used to the 3x5 again, but the thing is, I went from 405x4 to 355x5 and that was before having possible recovery problems from doing 3x5 twice a week.

Edit: nvm I see what your saying. Cause of first decline = weird deload. Cause of ongoing deload = body not recovering from 3x5 twice a week.



Looks like I'll have to switch to an intermediate squat program for sure. Texas method sounds good, 5/3/1 sounds great also. My friend has the entire book.

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Well let me narrow it down:


Bad sleeping X
 - Probably not. These gains were made over school break and started to decline still over school break. Had a bunch of sleep throughout.

Stance X
 - Stance has not changed, though I did notice a great loss in bar speed. That, however, is due to the strength loss.

Diet X
 - I highly doubt this as well. I was at a consistent 200g protein a day, and stayed between 207-210 pounds throughout the final 5 weeks or so which means calories were at ~maintenance.

Supplements X
 - I doubt this. I continued to take creatine everday as well as protein.

Muscle loss X
 - I doubt this as well. I would have lost a bunch of weight if my squat dropped by 70lbs due to muscle loss. I didn't lose weight until I purposely started cutting AFTER the drop, and I've only lost 4lbs so far.

Neural Strength loss ?
 - It has to be this. If I didn't lose strength from muscle, then it must be from the CNS or something. There's no other place to lose the strength unless my limbs magically changed proportions along with my muscle insertions. Neural strength loss can be due to technique (which I already covered) or something else. Could it be from the de-load? Can a de-load account for a 70lb loss in the squat?!




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Please, replies!  :'(

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Post finished. I don't understand how I went from 405x4 to 335 in about a month.

Here's some squat history:.

Basic set up:
Heavy day - 1x4, 2x7
Light day - 1x2
Heavy day - 1x4, 2x7

Eventually i switched from mon-wed-fri to mon-wed-sat because it fit my schedule better.
By the end I deloaded. Notice I started from 335x4 to 405x4 in just 7 weeks or so. A lof of my log data deleted so not everything is 100% accurate until the 4th week. But I DO recall gaining 10lbs a week on my 4RM.

Mon - 335 x 4 | 295 x 7 | 295 x 7
Wed - 340 x 2
Fri - 345 x 4 | 300 x 7 | 300 x 7

Mon - 350 x 4 | 305 x 7 | 305 x 7
Wed - 355 x 2
Sat - 360 x 4 |310 x 7 | 310 x 7

Mon - 355 x 4 | 315 x 7 | 315 x 7
Wed - 360 x 2
Fri - 360 x 4 | 320 x 7 | 320 x 7

Mon - 365 x 2
Wed - 365 x 4 | 325 x 7 | 325 x 7
Sat  - 370 x 4

Mon - 375 x 4 | 330 x 7 | 330 x 7
Wed - 375 x 2
Sat - 380 x 4 | 335 x 7 | 335 x 5

Mon - 385 x 2
Wed - 385 x 4 | 335 x 7 | 335 x 7
Sat - 390 x 4 | 340 x 7 | 340 x 5

Mon - 395 x 4  | 340 x 7 | 340 x 7
Wed - 395 x 1
Sat - 400 x 4 | 345 x 7 | 345 x 7

Mon - 405 x 1
Wed - 405 x 4 | 355 x 3
Fri - 365 x 1

Mon - 405 x 4 notice i did this TWICE, it was a consistent 4RM
Wed - 365 x 1
Fri - 405 x 1 (de-loading)

Tue - 405 x 1 (de-loading) but 405x1 felt VERY difficult
Fri - 405 x 1 (end of de-load)

Tue - 405 x 1 VERY difficult, thought I would go for 405x3 but couldn't
Sat - 355 x 5 | 355 x 5 | 355 x 5 extremely difficult

Tue - 345 x 5 | 345 x 5 | 345 x 3 Couldn't even do 3 sets of this
Sat - 345 x 5 | 345 x 5 | 345 x 5 Barely went up

Thu - 335 x 5 | 335 x 5 | 335 x 5 Continued decline in weight, this was near failure




HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN?!

What could be the cause for my plummeting squat gain?
FWIW, I was the same weight of the 405x4 thru 355x5. THEN I started to cut weight (lost 3 pounds so far, that's it).


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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: Cheat days on a weight/fat loss diet
« on: January 16, 2012, 05:52:38 pm »


1. Athlete A will burn more than Athlete B because he's adding exercise into the equation. Also, because athlete B will lose muscle, he will no longer burn 3000 calories because less muscle = less calories burned. That's why he'd put fat on, because he's now eating over maintenance.

...but that's not the situation we're talking about (they both consume and burn 3000cal a day, period). I already wrote down they they are both on caloric maintenance. You can't change a hypothetical situation and THEN defend yourself against THAT one.  ;)

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2. Obviously we are talking about weight.

Not so obvious when the words can NOT be used interchangeably. ALSO not so obvious when you stated:
"If you eat 3000 calories, and your body uses 3000 calories, you won't store any fat because there's no reason to."
But YES, I do know what you meant now.


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3. You didn't read Avishek's post. That is the one I was responding to. He said "Just reducing those and eating healthier will automatically get you lean.". That's simply not true.

agree

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Program Review / Re: Smolov Tips?
« on: January 16, 2012, 02:05:13 pm »
If you want to help me, give me some tips for Smolov.

Here's a good Smolov tip:


Don't fucking do it.

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Nutrition & Supplementation / Re: Cheat days on a weight/fat loss diet
« on: January 16, 2012, 01:53:07 pm »
If you eat 3000 calories, and your body uses 3000 calories, you won't store any fat because there's no reason to.

Hmmm....

Athlete A - Eats exactly 3k cals a day. Burns exactly 3k cals a day. Lifts heavy weights 3x a week.

Athlete B - Eats exactly 3k cals a day. Burns exactly 3k cals a day. Stopped lifting.

3 months pass. Athlete B will have stored fat and lost muscle. Athlete A will have remained about the same (or, if he's a noob, stored muscle and burned some fat.


You are wrong here man. The word weight is not interchangable with the word fat.


YES, you are right in saying you will NOT gain weight if your calories in are equal to calories out.

However, you are wrong in saying you will not gain or lose FAT either.


There is a difference between gaining/losing weight and body recomposition

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: January 06, 2012, 12:15:53 pm »
How did training save his life once?

i wanna hear that story

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: ADARQ's journal
« on: January 05, 2012, 01:54:10 pm »
You guys don't understand. That phase of life is over for ADARQ.

Your eyes are too far apart. Nose is definitely crooked. The shape of your face is not aesthetically pleasing at all. You look like a 3/10 with make up in this photo. I don't even want to imagine what you look like without make up. I actually just threw up in my mouth, just thinking about it. Your head is too big (although that may be, because of your giraffe neck posture). As for your hair, lol. Seriously, do something. You look like a horse.
Stare at your face for more than 5 seconds, and you will see how ugly you are. The eyes which are too far apart is what ruins/damages an already ugly face even further. Unfortunately for you, that can't be surgically fixed, lol. Your arms are way too long. lol at how they hang by your sides. Kind of reminds me of lurch. As for your tits, we all know there is extra padding there. Don't even let me start on your pale complexion. It only works if you look hot. Unfortunately, you do not look hot. Its hard to sum up a creature like you in one word. 'UGLY' would be unfair, since it doesn't reflect how repulsive you look. GROTESQUE is stretching it. But somewhere in between, is where you would be, on the scale of an average man.
I'm sorry if my words seem a little harsh. Just so you know, I sugar coated this post as much as possible.
Have a nice day.

u aware?

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Squat 405x4
« on: December 27, 2011, 03:34:45 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdwHh95AHJc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdwHh95AHJc</a>


fuck yeah

weighed 204lbs at time of squat (in socks, boxers, shorts, tank top).
Even though I squatted in shoes I took them off when I weighed myself lol, wouldn't make sense to count them.

usually weigh 208lbs (shoes, socks, boxers, sweatpants, tank top).
In this case it makes sense to count my shoes because I jump with shoes and it would have a negative effect.

The shoes and sweatpants add a lot of weight I guess.

I'm at about a 2.18x bw squat now if I'm at 445lb 1RM and 204lb bw. I want to get to 2.25x bw (in clothing) and that should get me to a 40" running vertical FOR SURE with practice.

When I was at 2.06x bw squat, I jumped my highest at ~38". I was 175lbs and maxed out 360-365

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