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god dammit step your quote game up :FQuote
lol.
lmfao ^^ good one..
see how impressively i edited the above post tho, to fix rip's quotenoobishness, that's what u call bosslevel quote editing.
pC, bbl dunking.
QuoteQuote from: RipIt's NOT done all the time, and that is simply bullshit. Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+. Show us your data, and show us the video of the jump test method you use.
I'm gonna side with Mark on this for the most part for a couple simple reasons:
1. To jump 36" or higher one has to have the combination of a ton of strength and decent reactive ability( fluid in the movement),
to SVJ 36 you need decent reactive ability? nope.. some of the most horribly reactive individuals can SVJ into the 40's. it's an explosive strength dominated effort, not reactive.
Maybe that's true, but that would be very rare, you have to be a great athlete in order to jump 40" SVJ..
Quotemany lifters have the strength to jump that high but don't have the reactive ability, on the other hand many athletes training for it just do not have the mindset to not give up as it will take a very long time to gain 8 or more inches on your SVJ.
nope.. if you can't jump 36+, then you don't have the strength for it.. let's not forget that a number such as "2.5xBW squat" means nothing unless time is taken into account.. so if you complete your 2.5xBW squat in 4 seconds, then you definitely don't have the strength to jump 36 etc.. so numbers become irrelevant if speed is not taken into account.
as for people who give up, we don't include them in the conversation, rippetoe might, i don't.
QuoteQuote2. A 36" SVJ jump is a ridiculously high jump and for the most part it takes a naturally good athlete to get to that level. I am not saying that most athletes can't get there, but it will be a much tougher road. Off the top of my head I can count a handful of athletes on this site ( A site dedicated to increasing vert) that has that high of a SVJ or even has the strength cabability to jump that high. It is a very small amount of people.
well from what i remember steven-miller was never a good SVJ'r prior to training, he's gotten so much stronger it's insane, and now jups 35-36" SVJ.
you went from ~35" RVJ to ~45" RVJ..
how does "only a handful of people" give credit to your argument? if only one person can prove it is possible, then it is possible for all humans for the most part.. how hard the other humans are willing to work & how consistent they are becomes the key difference in whether or not someone will realize their true potential or just quit and have fun playing sports without focusing on performance improvement.
I never said it was impossible, I said for the most part this is true for the reasons I listed. It can happen, but it takes tons of work, and most athletes simply can't do it..
QuoteQuoteBut besides that, Mark is pretty much ignorant and wants to remain that way, but that was one thing he said that I liked.
he has no knowledge of the advanced methods of SPP yet tells people 36+ is a limit for "average athletes", makes no sense.. how can you know what the limit is if you have never truly tested someone's limits? you can't test someone's limits through squatting & GOMAD, that's BEGINNER LEVEL shit.. and imo, gomad is detrimental unless you really need the mass for sport, such as football or sumo wrestling.
pc rip
Mark's ego has gotten a bit too big, and he should definitely not be given advice outside of his realm of knowledge which is beginner level shit, I'll still rep Starting Strength as the go to book for all beginner lifters, it is a great book to learn from.
will respond to girljordan in a bit
do you have a link to this discussion so i can read? sounds like fun!
156lbs? Are you gonna just leave your weight alone, or are you going to drop to 145 like you said before?
If you are still planning to hit 145, are you going to do it after you hit a specific strength number or something?
On another note, June 4 is almost here man.
Somehow, somewhere inside my head, when I done did seen this vid, I thought about a Darqui-rant.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9cfEKu1VPk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9cfEKu1VPk</a>
Had to be posted in your log.
GOGITIT!
New side goal: disprove this.Quote from: RipIt's NOT done all the time, and that is simply bullshit. Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+. Show us your data, and show us the video of the jump test method you use.
My SVJ when I started all this business was 25". I have the video somewhere. On my best days now it's probably 29". I care much, much, much more about RVJ and I'm a lot closer to 36" RVJ (obviously), but if I had a 36" SVJ I could dunk a soccer ball from a standstill. That would be neat.
edit: Assuming you're HB and Lance is Reverse Hypertrophy, Lance was on some straight TLDR shit in that thread.
Quote from: RipIt's NOT done all the time, and that is simply bullshit. Any athlete that has a legit TRAINED 36-38" SVJ started out with a 30-32+. Show us your data, and show us the video of the jump test method you use.
I'm gonna side with Mark on this for the most part for a couple simple reasons:
1. To jump 36" or higher one has to have the combination of a ton of strength and decent reactive ability( fluid in the movement),
many lifters have the strength to jump that high but don't have the reactive ability, on the other hand many athletes training for it just do not have the mindset to not give up as it will take a very long time to gain 8 or more inches on your SVJ.
2. A 36" SVJ jump is a ridiculously high jump and for the most part it takes a naturally good athlete to get to that level. I am not saying that most athletes can't get there, but it will be a much tougher road. Off the top of my head I can count a handful of athletes on this site ( A site dedicated to increasing vert) that has that high of a SVJ or even has the strength cabability to jump that high. It is a very small amount of people.
But besides that, Mark is pretty much ignorant and wants to remain that way, but that was one thing he said that I liked.
adarq: probably the best session of my life, because, it was the worst session of my life, until the last dunk
this is going to be a good video, im going to put every single dunk attempt in it and just put the good dunk times in the description.. i want people to see how hard u gotta push when ur body has turned to shit all of a sudden. Probably close to around 100 dunk attempts for sure.
last dunk seemed pretty insane.
pc
when do we get to see this vid?
This is what I'll say. If your still feeling fuked up after eating 12 banana's in the future & your putting in the optimum sodium, cut back the banana's.
You need to get your potassium, magnesium, sodium and calcium ratio's just right to be at your most efficient both mentally & physically.
Those particular minerals are extremely important.
Symptoms of Too Much Potassium
extra bball cardio + 12 bananas a day + basically a low sodium diet = adarqui in potassium overdose.
Doesn't matter how healthy the food is, overdosing on it will fuk you up.
diet = 3 eggs + egg whites + 1 cheese + 2 bread + greentea, water/protein-drink + gatorade, starbucks coffee drink, basketball + protein/gatorade-drink, 2 bags of dirty's chips + gatorade, session{pin-7-squat=315 @ 3x10}, protein/water-drink + gatorade, philly cheesesteaks + tons of salty fries + tons of soda, pint haagen dazs + 2 cookies, bw-exercises={H=60,CR=70,GB=50,CR=60,H-arms-out=40,CR=70,GB=50,CR=50,H-arms-out=30,CR=50,GB=50,CR=50,H=,CR=}, 2*yogurt + gatorade
potassium OD / sodium UND
raped.
It would take my body almost a week to recover from all of that, seriously.
Hardest part of my training, eating clean, it's all mental & it's hard as hell.
