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Quote from: adarqui on July 26, 2011, 05:00:51 pm

an increase in relative strength? the ability to produce/handle 100 lb more of tension? the ability to move previously intense weights at a faster speed due to the increase? the ability to voluntarily tap into more motor units? the possibility that significant hypertrophy has occurred? the transfer of this strength to jumping is very high considering the specificity of the exercise? the increases in testosterone/igf-1/hGH that has occurred during the process of such training, yielding plenty of benefits in not only the training itself, but the recovery process and overall arousal of the athlete for practices & sport?

Can't really see how this would make a player all that much better?.

He can already play ball, run & dunk.  

He's already an accomplished athlete from what he's already doing.

Quote from: adarqui on July 26, 2011, 04:50:58 pm

michael jordan was never content.

if he could find a way to improve his athleticism even microscopically, he would do it.. same with kobe.. same with all of the "killers".

you are basically advocating that athletes should be content, which is polar opposite of being an athlete.

So tell me what the weight room/100lb squat increase would achieve?.

Quote from: adarqui on July 26, 2011, 04:45:02 pm

ROFLMFAOOMGROFL.

But you have never felt the burn that you get in the hip flexors from pulling back on the pedal stroke, you have never done the exercise in your life.

Squatting ain't doing shit for your hip flexors blu.

Didn't you used to have Bruce Lee as your avatar?  Didn't Bruce Lee say "Never be satisfied"

You're basically saying, if you can dunk and ball, BE SATISFIED LOL


Adarq, you can already dunk, STOP SQUATTING lol...

Quote from: adarqui on July 26, 2011, 04:35:24 pm

name some, other than skill work?

Road cycling, pulling back on the pedal stroke increases the power in your hip flexors/turnover of your legs.

Quote from: adarqui on July 26, 2011, 04:07:52 pm

and?

And I'm trying to workout what the benefits of adding 100lbs to your squat would be?.

And how this would further increase a bballers existing potential since he can already play ball & dunk.

Quote from: adarqui on July 26, 2011, 04:07:52 pm

oh really?.

There all athletes. Can't sit & watch & TV all day man.

Quote from: $ick3nin.v3nd3tta on July 26, 2011, 03:59:33 pm

Remember they can already play ball & dunk already.

and?

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There accomplished athletes.

oh really? they all have multiple nba championships? mvp status? hall of fame? etc?

Quote from: adarqui on July 26, 2011, 02:27:52 pm

if you want to become a better athlete in a sport you need to:

1. improve skill in sport
2. improve overall fitness
3. minimize stressors (proper sleep, diet, etc)
4. improve relative strength in compound movements & strength in individual muscle groups, both specific/important to the sport
5. ...

here's a small example:

#1. basketball is a sport than needs power/quickness, but is dominated by actual skill & natural advantages such as height etc.. Improving power will result in improved vert/speed/first step quickness etc, which will have an undoubtedly positive effect on ones skill game.

#2. competitive shotput is dominated by power/strength. One cannot compete at the elite level simply by throwing the shot & improving technique. They instead need to work on technique while getting stronger in the weight room.

this is why people such as john stockton, steve nash, gary payton, or even player's like steve kerr can compete with athletes who are superior in the power/speed department, and even dominate them.. an example of a powerful point guard would be kevin johnson or derrick rose..

you're not going to find weak shot putters at the elite level... you will however, find weak basketball players at the elite level, in fact, many of whom can actually dominate the sport due to other aspects of the sport (reaction time, perception, decision making, skill) etc.

so, in a sport like basketball, you can get by, without dedicating your life to strength..

in a sport such as shotput, you cannot get by, without dedicating your life to strength..

if basketball players want to jump higher, run faster, and thus gain an edge on their competition, they need to dedicate their life to strength... instead, most dedicate their life to skill.. most people cannot dedicate themselves to both, so they will favor one over the other, but to become the best athlete you can possibly be, both issues need to be addressed.

pretty much anyone in the nba, except the players who are already freaks (not many), could increase their athleticism considerably.. these players aren't going to achieve considerable gains in athleticism by utilizing exercises that do not address maximal strength & thus explosive strength... you aren't going to improve max strength on a bosu ball or using kettlebells or using balance exercises or using secret society medball exercises.

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So you would agree with me when I say that a considerable amount of NBA players can really enhance their games if they worked on strength/power/athleticism without neglecting skill work?  And that if the trainers didn't have to worry so much about injuring star players, and they made them do real work in the weight room, many great players will become even greater?