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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 21, 2016, 11:43:04 pm »
BW: 81.8kg

gave myself headaches thru the night. only realised that I may have overdosed on minerals ..have to spread it out during the day, otherwise feel okay. I'm not cutting but i think being under 81kg (<80.5kg is okay) and using 140kg for worksets is a nice place to be for now. That's ~1.75xbw but in terms of ratio, i dont really think i shud be using 80kg as the bodyweight -- 85kg makes more sense as my ideal bodyweight, where im maximally strong AND athletic..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 20, 2016, 05:45:52 am »
BS 8x2x140(PR)
Push Press 6x72.5(PR)
Bball game

BW: 82.2kg / 181.2lb

Notes:
This is a special workout .. got the 6x2x140kg milestone .. which is a PR by 2 sets, my previous one was 4x2x140kg @ 98kg bodyweight. Incidentally at my current bodyweight these are honest 1.7xbw raw, beltless worksets which is a sign im slowly dragging myself out of mediocrity. Then i decided to do 2 more extra sets, to make 6x2x140kg become a submax workout, suitable for a recovery workout on tuesdays from here; a total volume of 16 reps which is a volume PR, my previous one was I think 3x5x140kg with a belt at a bodyweight of 110kg ish. So im doing okay, no longer comparing myself to a better version of me, i AM a better version of me.

Summary of my squat progress the last 2 weeks:


vid going up on @maxentr0py for officiality

have a game tonight .. and push presses hopefully no reinjury, will warmup carefully.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 19, 2016, 11:41:31 am »
Good news is that i finally got legs doms after a while .. so ive got that going, luckily legs recover fairly quick given adequate recovery/sleep/carbs. Lets see what i can squat tmr, im quietly confident now that my back has adapted to 140kg, i can now use the backsquat to task my legs .. woohoo..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 18, 2016, 11:47:18 pm »
BW: 82.4kg

Aw man, im not happy that i missed ohp and chinups on sunday and bp yesterday. Not good. I need upper body work just as badly as if not more than lower body. But the sunday omissions were bc i know those exercises cud have caused reinjury that i picked up doing push presses thursday, which btw was perfectly avoidable if i hadn't been such a dickhead and gone from 20kg warmups to 62.5kg without an intermediate set .. usually id do 50kg in between thought i was now strong enough to go to from 0 to 60 real quick and bang, injury. will do push presses tmr tho, will warmup nicely and go for some PRs. i could have got 8x70kg last wk but i settled for 7x70kg. I really want to get my push press somewhere decent, at least 90-100kg would be super coo

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 18, 2016, 11:21:04 am »
Game was good. Won again, played okay. Afterwards did some dunks, holy shit, it felt like i was putting my arms into the rim when doing tomahawks. Not celebratory tho, it was court 2 and the rim height is suspect (to me). but it does give a tantalising glimpse into what's lying under the surface. there are latent gains of athleticism to be had..

300g beef, 150g whey, 600mL milk, 200g chicken breast. had some rice, bread, chickpeas, and pasta during the day including gatorade. pretty clean eating but a lot of food.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 18, 2016, 07:31:31 am »
Interesting feedback frm bench presses. felt hard as fk, i could only manage a triple with 90kg after using it for 5,3,3,3,3 last tuesday. So something is def afoot, i think it's systematic overreaching ... cos i didnt do any upper bodywork since thursday (due to injury). my right pec was acting up .. but not sure why either .. hmmm. doesn't matter, dont care about upper bdoy right now, just need to get my shit together and squat 150kg for 5-6s and then i can focus on other stuff.

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 18, 2016, 07:29:08 am »
It seems counter-intuitive but I think the mind is just wired like that. It's easier to be disciplined, train hard, lead a good lifestyle etc. when you're at the top of your game. It's when injuries and setbacks occur when the mental demons and temptations slip in. That's why mindset is such a huge deal and can make or break athletes.

isnt that the damnest thing. theres a lesson to be learnt there, im not sure what.. haha

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 18, 2016, 05:05:04 am »
you are under a lot of stress to be craving so much carbs. take it easy before you bloat up, get heavy and lift weaker. then you go mental.  ;)

kinda interesting to think that if i had got the worksets in, i prob dont eat as much lol. but the fact that i failed, psychologically that was a trigger to 'eat mo' to 'get recovered for next time'. it's self regulating that way, i dont really go crazy and binge when im dialed in and getting my written sets in. in fact that whole week, i ate clean .. and sunday was my 'carb' day which i took advantage of but yeah, if i was doing that everyday, i would def be in a world of trouble the way you say.

im at crossroads tho ..

i can eat to progress my lifts up to where i need them to be ?x6x150kg or i can get my bodycomp where it needs to be, but not both at the same time. it's hard enough making squat progress when eating more food, and i guess it's impossible to do it when eating less (to lose bodyfat). begrudgingly i can accept staying at 82kg if it means i can progress to 150kg worksets ... well. we'll see. the crux of the problem is that squats attack different parts of the body organism. last week it was my erectors which got torched tf and since that happened, my legs didnt get the training they needed, so they aren't getting stronger in the meantime. so suppose i get my back recovered now im still stuck with weaker legs for a while, but it will be another weakness that shows itself (eg hamstrings holding back angle out of the bottom). it's a shitshow .. squats are a GREAT test of overall organism strength but such a poor builder of it (FOR ME) cos of my build, i have to do things piecemeal. hammer my quads with heavvyt quarter squats gets my leg strength up but then i have to wait til my core (erectors and abs) catch up before i can progress the squat and so on. it's frustrating to say the least..

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 18, 2016, 04:46:54 am »
BS 3x2x140, 4x1x140
BP 3x90

BW: 82.1kg / 181lb

Notes:
That's double digit volume with 140kg . a PR .. yay. But it took me 7 sets and 4 singles to do it which is nothing to celebrate. Progress is progress tho. That last single felt decent, not defeating but i felt stronger after, so im on the right track, just have to keep chipping away and give my body a chance to adapt to this 'heavier' weight. I will eventually use the same 140kg for sets of 5-6 reps but right now even getting 4 doubles is an unmet challenge...

Game tonight, im going to try to spend as much time on the bench as possible. last wk i did too much and it cost me squat progress, not repeating that blunder.


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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 17, 2016, 03:14:25 am »
macros for the icecream: 1611cals, 43g pro, 43g fat, 270g carb

i cud easily eat more tbh .. icecream is sooo good

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 17, 2016, 12:43:30 am »
BW: 82.2kg

ate a ton yesterday, including a 2L tub of icecream! So all things considered, its fine. getting impatient tho. overreached and recovery hasnt occured

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 16, 2016, 03:54:16 am »
Can't recover for shit without eating more food. Wanted a begrudging 6x6x130kg, failed the first set on rep 6. At bw of 81.8kg for what it's worth, im sad now. guess recovery hasnt happened yet

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 14, 2016, 12:15:18 am »
BW: 81.9kg (LPR!)

Aw yis .. skinfolds down, scale down .. i'll take it :)  Settings PRs and getting in shape at the same tyme.

Injury report: better than expected, i shud be ok in a coupla days i think. it's barely noticable now...


1. eat for the body you want, not the one you have


Dunno, if this is original given your propensity for unearthing amazing rants from the nethers of the internet without citation... But... It's pretty decent thinking, looks like your finally getting ahold of pretty sound diet principles!

If I may quote myself from an earlier response to your journal... 

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1) The "Rippetoe method".  Eat everything.  Squat.  You will get huge, strong, and fat.  You can lose the fat later.  This method works.  Really well.  Surplus calories are better than steroids.  It's great if you want to be a heavyweight lifter, hate being small, etc.  Maybe useful for hardgainers starting out who just can't seem to get unstuck at a plateau.  But personally I don't like it for athletes  I don't like it for you...

2) The "maxent" method.  Constantly try and lose weight.  Make gains while cutting as a fat beginner.  Become an intermediate athlete.  Still make goals that involve new PRs at lower bodyweights.   Totally possible.  Not most efficient. 

3) The middle ground.  First get lean.  Whatever, lean is for you.  You wanna be sub 80kg, so you make a goal of hitting 77kg.  Try to maintain your squat when you reach that goal.  When you are lean and have achieved this...  Stop thinking about your bodyweight AND start thinking about your diet!  Is this hard?  Yes.   But it's a million times more efficient.  You get to 77kg.  You now eat a consistent diet (no binges!) that will allow you to get stronger.  You fuel yourself at a level optimal for you.  You tell yourself, I am going to eat at approximately maintenance level +5% and I am going to achieve a squat of 150kg in 12 weeks of this.  I'm not going to binge at all.  I'm also not going to look at the scale.  Most importantly I'm not going to binge, see 82kg and then fast for two days to get back to 79 kilos.   I'm eating might fuel level of optimum nutrition and getting stronger.   Twelve weeks later you will squat 150kg.  How much will you weight?  Maybe 78kg?  Maybe 79-82kg?  Can't be sure, but you will weight the optimal amount for adding functional strength quickly...

Looking at your recent posts...  I see your squat is climbing... And you have let your bodyweight slide up to 82-83kg...  Looks like your doing method #3.

Nice job.   Eating to allow yourself to build strength rather than eating to build strength (method #1) or starving yourself to constantly get leaner (method #2).   Remember, only exceptions to this are someone who has been traveling and working but not training and let themselves go a bit (like myself) who should suffer through some method #2 or someone wants to get bigger at all costs and should use method #1 (ie a weight-class athlete like a boxer or lifter who wants to move up a class or a football player changing positions from linebacker to lineman or cornerback to strong safety who is willing to lose relative strength in favor of bulk and absolute strength)... 

Since your a dunker/basketball player lets hope you never fall for the trap of method #1 and lets also hope you stay injury free,  lean and diligent such that you don't have to do method #2 again!   Lets keep seeing you moderately gain small amounts of bodyweight while getting WAY stronger... Just make sure to add some real measurables besides squat that you can push up during this time!

yep doing method 3 is working really well. im hoping to get the lifting gains out of the way so i have an ENTIRE summer ahead to just work on peaking athleticism. I do not want to be cutting and trying to push up my lifts during the summer AND playing bball .. it's too much and i end up being a master of none. Right now im sacrificing game performance for gym gains but once ive fnished up with repping 150kg for sets of 5-6 reps i'll put it on maintenance and focus on other areas, including skills but esp the other things you've advised to focus (throws, agility/quickness drills, bounds, sprints, ...) for athleticism specifically. exciting times ahead ;)

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: Age vs Vertical
« on: October 13, 2016, 11:07:32 am »
Somehow strained my left trapezius muscle , the 'inner' side ( all along next to the spine ). No idea how. No training last two days. Feels much better today, will try to play bball.
Did some body measurements though, my morning stats are 84kg (~185lbs ) , 87.5cm ( ~34½'' ) waist, ~16% bf. That is good numbers for me.

sucks :( i think i did the exact same thing this evening ony my right side. hoping it isnt spinal but it may be cervical spine related .. yikes. will see how it fares over the next coupla days. hope yours is just muscular, they heal pretty quick

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Progress Journals & Experimental Routines / Re: chasing athleticism
« on: October 13, 2016, 05:55:02 am »
Starting ro recover frm sundays but not there yet :/ wtf is beastie boys? google play let me down today. usually the songs are at best inspirational but otherwise non offensive. Was stripping the bar when beastie boys came on and overwhelmed my senses with what i can only descibe as evil noise and milleseconds later, i cut my hand on the sharp edge of my plates tree. google play, we need to talk. thumbs down.

i looked it up and actually my previous PR is 4x2x140kg. I prob wud have got it today but id rather be recovered well for sunday than not, so deferred to recovery than forcing a meaningless PR

i thought it would be an easy game .. but we actually played a really good team. one of the guys ive seen play the top league finals at the other stadium .. i actually backed him down into the post and scored on him .. my only bucket but was kinda sweet cos he's bigger and stronger than me. tbh i think he was trying to play within himself cos he's too good for this comp and he cud get thrown out. I am really disappointed with myself, you always wanna play your best against good competition and i must confess iw as completely shithouse. spent as much time on the bnech as i cud but we were outsized and outplayed by a bigger more athletic team with chemistry. these are junk miles that i doint need, they dont help my athleticism or sports specific ability .. i wish i had passed on the season but we're here now.

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