the shrimp fails to address this one important issue:
the ability to overcome more resistance for a given ROM than other exercises with that same ROM
so, for same ROM, bss/lunge allows you to overload far more than 'the shrimp'.. this is obviously due to the coordination factor involved with 'the shrimp'. some people might say, well that coordination issue yields more improvements in 'athletic ability' than less coordinated movements such as bss/lunge, i disagree.. the most simple multijoint movements are far more important imo.. it doesn't get any more simple than squat, lunge, bss, calve raise etc.. those are the purest forms of overloading those roms, which should allow for the greatest gains in hypertrophy/strength/various cns adaptations..
someone could say, 'well the shrimp utilizes stabilization to a higher degree, and thus has more transfer to sport'.. i would say, that stabilization is almost useless, as high speed movements work in much shorter time frames that would not stabilize the joints in that manner.. furthermore, if stabilization mattered, while lifting, we'd see much more improvements in athleticism from "the functional crowd".. weighted swiss ball pushups would be somehow utilized by shotput throwers eventually.. never going to happen.
training solely with 'weighted shrimp' would fail to improve barbell squat much more so than training solely with 'weighted bss/lunge'.. that's my opinion.. again, more overload can be utilized in a simpler movement.. so loading up 100 lb total of db's on your shoulders in a shrimp, does not compare AT ALL to loading up 225 lb on your shoulders during a bss.. i'd imagine 100 lb total during a shrimp to be 'as difficult' as 225 lb on a barbell for a bss, as an example, but that's due to the coordination factor and overall difficulty/time to complete the exercise...
^^ people might say, well who cares about squat.. but most people's goals on this site center around squat.. even short sprints.. squat is insanely beneficial for short sprints, and of course jumps of all kinds (obviously bilateral), including single leg jumps.. a heavy, bilateral barbell squat (half or quarter) is an incredible tool to highly arouse the CNS for single leg jumps, a day or two after.
the arousal needed to complete very heavy simple barbell lifts is very different than the arousal needed to complete a 'highly coordinated' weighted exercise like the shrimp.. the arousal experienced by the former, seems to be one of the most beneficial aspects of training.
my 2 cents, now im off to sleep can barely keep eyes open.
pc
I believe I'm adding plenty to the discussion.
Were "shrimps" talked about in your Engineering the Athlete book that was backed by science and can be compared to the works of Verkhoshansky ? If the answer is no, I think everyone can see why nobody should listen to a word you say.
would he include them exclusively now? it sounds like he'd use them exclusively, i mean that's the vibe i get from some of his posts.. exclusively for bilateral jumpers? or just sprinters? what about short accell?
I don't see how 'the shrimp' could improve broad jump more than a "p-chain based barbell squat".. i mean if it did, throw specificity right out of the window..
pc
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