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9/21/2011

bw = 151
soreness = calfs major
aches/injuries = groin/right knee
diet = coffee, weak dunks, hamburger/chocolate almonds/fries




some dunks from yesterdya

Hi Guys

I just wanted to here some thoughts on early morning squat and/or deadlifts. I have read a number of well respected trainers say you shouldn't do these lifts heavy in the morning due to overnight spinal de-compression increasing the risk of injury.

Personally I have happily squated and deadlift heavy in the mornings and have done for years without injury or complaint. Admittedly I do plenty of warm up first - skipping, kb swings, and lots of lighter sets before I get really heavy.

So my question is this - aside from interest blogs and so on has anyone ever heard of any actual studies or research that can verify, or at least help validate that heavy early morning squats and deadlifts are bad? Or is this another internet myth that gets spread around because the same coaches (like me  for example} read the same blogs and sites and end up spreading the same bullshit without fully doing their research.

thoughts and comments?

using my own experience with this, and from people i have trained in the morning, we've never had a problem.. i imagine it could be a problem if you just walked out of bed and went right into the squat rack.. but if you "wakeup" & warmup properly, i don't see how it could be a problem.

Because Mayweather wanted the big money fights. Would he have been as big as he is now if he fought paul williams instead of de la hoya? I doubt it.

Pacquiao fought clottey off a loss, and cotto only because he's top rank.

Mayweather hasn't fought the best, but don't act like Pacquiao has either.

im confused, pbf couldnt fight DLH if he fought paul?

he should have fought both.. and pac was trying to clean up the division, clottey was relevant.. he was coming off a loss to cotto which he was dominating the first half of the fight until he got bodyslammed or whatever happened..

pac was trying to clean out the division, pbf was ducking in the division.. big difference.

there were rumors of pac/berto too, before berto lost to ortiz.. cleaning up the division is much more respectable than sitting in the division and handpicking aging/crappy fighters.. pac will fight anyone, pbf will not.

will upload more dunks/misses from yesterday, but just wanted to upload this to compare to yesterday, same hoop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT-ii2bQbH8




9/20/2011

bw = 154
soreness = 0
aches/injuries = groin/right knee

diet = coffee drink, training #1, 2 bags chocolate almonds + 6 egg burrit + tons of chips, tons of stretching/leg lifts/core


training #1 =
- single leg layup warmup
- dunks
- 10 sets of 20 MR halftucks (max effort)
- 6 sets of 30 MR halftucks (max effort)
- 1 sets of 100 MR halftucks (submax effort)
- "full squat iso while dribbling" -> ~4min15seconds



full squat iso thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQXxWwtFrtE




100 submax halftucks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-YHKDk6rQ




me mr halftucks to layup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKhIPosiA10






pc

Quote from: adarqui on September 20, 2011, 01:16:09 am

i think you neglect reactive work/jump rope.. because of the cardio issue.

I think you're right. And yeah, two hand jumps should be better when doing consecutive VJs to touch the rim. Thanks.

np








got 10 hours sleep today, had less spring than yesterday, but, felt really good.. a few really nice jumps..

09/19/2011

bw = 156
soreness = 0
aches/injuries = groin/right knee/left itband, left achilles tender
sleep = 4 hours sleep

diet = coffee, dunks/50 sets of 3-SL-bounds/speed bounds (5 sets each, best of 12 strides left leg full court, 13 strides right leg full court)/SL hop dribbling/ATG-squat-iso-dribbling(3x3min), PB + cake, 5 egg burrito + meatballs/pasta, tons of stretching



some 3-SL-bounds.. these were set 30 lol.. annoyed at how much im being crushed after that first single leg bound off left leg, i just get smashed.. i was handling them better earlier on, but not MUCH better, so thats still indicative of force absorption issues.







a few dunks on four hours sleep.. legs had alot of spring given my fatigue.. eyes closing level of fatigue, sleepy.. happy with these dunks.. confident ill be able to fly without lifting.

Yo Andrew, I went in the park and did a little plyo workout, did some LR jumps with the baby ball (size 1), some jumps with the small ball (size 5) and I'm telling you, these were downright ugly. Whenever I plant I feel this total "overwhelming lazyness" occuring and my jump is bye-bye. Also, when I did consecutive jumps to the rim (standing on spot) I was landing in a totally different place after each jump and basically I was out of reach from the rim altogether after 3 or 4 jumps.

overwhelming lazyness? dno, can't make sense of that... i mean, once i shut down from hitting my max jumps, i get a feeling like that, but im able to jump max before it happens.. so im not sure what would be happening there if it's happening before your max jumps.

ya well consecutive jumps are really hard if you're reaching up to something 'too high'.. if you go submax, you can control..reaching up with two hands also helps to keep you from twisting and rotating away from your target.

Any idea on how to fix this stuff ^^^? On a jump or two I remembred you talking about jumping the best when you tried to jump backwards and it worked, I really jumped well, but then I turned back to my old self with sucking.

jumping 'backwards' always helps me.. i do it every session for months now.. when i cue it as im warming up or before my biggest jumps, it always helps.

How would you go along correcting all this stuff, all this uncoordinated jumping, and "lazy" jumping (immediately after I forcefully plant is like a "force" magically sucks away all my might, I know it sounds retarded but that's how it feels).

well that just sounds like weakness.. tons of double leg jumping should help, jump rope, reactive work, and heavy lifting..

i think you neglect reactive work/jump rope.. because of the cardio issue.

pC

Quote from: adarqui on September 19, 2011, 07:58:21 am

Quote from: Raptor on September 19, 2011, 04:36:35 am

Forgot about me eh?

you're starting again too? healed up? hopeso

I meant my question a few posts back...

i will check it out and answer it in a bit.. promise!@$

lol







4 hours sleep last night, really tired, but legs felt so springy, from all of those MR halftucks yesterday... left achilles was a little achy too so i had to hold back.

legs felt so good that i tried a few dunks, landed a few nice ones.