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my SL SVJ is not at all similar to my normal SVJ. you know this, T0ddday, i dip like kingfish on my SVJ.

LOL.  You used to dip like kingfish on your SVJ.  I don't think it's worth the work but IMO you look completely different now.  Watching your ball throws and jumps you look about 10X more hip dominant and your pop is light years better than it was...

I mean you jumped 36'' off one step...  I bet if your goal was to maximize your SVJ you would move away from that massive dip and find you actually can just just as high or higher without it now... No point in doing it because your goal is dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk.... But I would still bet on it...

What I mean isn't that it "looks" like it so much but that the muscles used and body positions are more similar. 

A good running single leg jump has the center of mass lower before the penultimate step - when you do a running SL vertical jump on the last step you are dealing with a body that is accelerating upward and forward - the last step is a change of momentum moreso than a vertical impulse. 

When you do a running DLVJ with a lot of speed you will often notice that the back leg (in a RL plant this is the right leg) is actually coming off the ground before the left leg - this is similar to a running single leg vertical jump... 

The point is that in a single leg vertical jump you have to generate the vertical impulse on one leg - perhaps if we made kingfish do this he would go full out pistol on these...   People with great running SL verticals do not necessarily have great single leg standing verticals - the correlation isn't there.   This is what I mean by a teaching tool...  If we train SL vertical and then allow you to do pentultimate sl legs it does help the athlete learn what SL running jumping is... 

I'm not sure if that is well written - maybe it makes no sense... Would probably take some time to write up and explain well...

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Quote from: Mutumbo000 on July 03, 2016, 07:35:48 am

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVR-NAbzbwY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVR-NAbzbwY</a>

Man that video is depressing... PH had so much potential... But hasn't been able to get along with his teammates well enough to do well in the NFL.  Could be such a true offensive weapon, return game, receiver, running the reverse, split end, just everything...  I always feel like the guys with the burst speed who look semi-fast but don't have the top-speed track gait always make the best football players...  It's like if you can run fast without knowing how to run and without having learned to maximize stride length... Then you just can't be tackled and you can adjust so many more times...

Definitely. Even the guys who look semi-fast in the NFL are absolutely flying and probably running high 10s at worst. A player with explosiveness, agility, and lateral speed will always be better than a player with good acceleration and great top speed.

Eh... I've trained a few of them and I wouldn't bet on high tens for a lot of them... Low elevens yes.  There is a big difference between could run 10.xx with training and would run 10.xx right now...

If I had to bet I would say a lot of the younger guys would be 10.5-10.9.  But you would be surprised by how much specificity sets in after a few years... The vets that have been in the league for 5+ years... Bet their 100m times would be surprisingly slow which is really a good thing as they move away from the silly 40yd dash and static starts... It's almost like your specific speed becomes so amazing that you lose every other capability...

I bet if you did a vet combine every test would be won by guys on the practice squad!

Ok i dont know if i ever got up to 200kg. The closest i could find looking back in my log was this entry

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RDL 8x150(warmup PR), 4x192.5(PR), 10x180(PR)

on april 18th and i weighed under 180lb at the time.

so yeah it was something i was working towards but didn't get there before i had to stop training the rdl regularly. i did set myself the goal to get to 200kg though and i still think i wanna do that. i dont deadlift, not a good lift for me, risk of injury is almost 100% and im not revisiting it again, learnt that the hard way. i do think im skilled at pulling .. long arms, strong hands and leverages favouring the lift don't hurt.

I'm not super high on deadlifting either...  But if I was knocking out 10 reps of what I call RDLs without straps at under 180 you can be sure I'd bulk to 200 and at the very least get in one legit 800lb deadlift!

Quote from: LBSS on July 03, 2016, 09:32:45 pm

straps are great, cheap and easy to use. being preoccupied with hook grip is just dumb ego unless you're trying to compete in PL and even then training with straps makes sense a lot of the time.

im not sure. i think last time when i did RDLs i just used DOH alll the way up to 140kg worksets then i switched to hook grip and kept going up to 200kg ish. My grip kept pace. but now that im rebuilding, i prob shud have started with DOH worksets up to 150kg and then switched over? i didnt though, i just use DOH for 110kg warmups then i go to hook for the 150kg warmup. I'll figure it out, it's not too much of a hassle cos im still making my hamstrings a bit sore anyway.

but yeah i need to get myself unstuck and then stay unstuck!

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BW: 79.2kg (LPR!) getting close to my goal weight of a stable post-cut bodyweight of <79kg. and it's the morning of day 8. Was thinking 77.5kg on day 21 is probably a good place to come off the cut. Then maintain and get strong as fuck. Actually when i say maintain, i mean a recomp cos i will likely still be too fat to stick at that bodyfat%. But recomp just means a smaller deficit anyway.

Maybe we have a different definition of what RDLs are?  You are RDLing 200kg?  That seems out of the world too me given your other strength levels.  I have gotten my conventional deadlift up to 600lbs and still never done RDLs with more than 275, usually my RDLs were at 185-225lbs...

I mean maybe your just a deadlift and grip beast but for all the athletes I have seen do RDLs - about 50% of deadlift max is about right for work sets of 6-10 reps.  I mean have you tried normal deadlifts?  For a single I would imagine your at about 350kg based on your RDL.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVR-NAbzbwY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVR-NAbzbwY</a>

Man that video is depressing... PH had so much potential... But hasn't been able to get along with his teammates well enough to do well in the NFL.  Could be such a true offensive weapon, return game, receiver, running the reverse, split end, just everything...  I always feel like the guys with the burst speed who look semi-fast but don't have the top-speed track gait always make the best football players...  It's like if you can run fast without knowing how to run and without having learned to maximize stride length... Then you just can't be tackled and you can adjust so many more times...

That's perfect.  Only thing is give yourself a little more room and a bit more weight.  This is one of my favorite athletic exercises.  You need strength - I mean pressing Dumbbells requires strength... But then you also get a lot of core stability work with a bit more weight.  I

Quote from: Raptor on July 02, 2016, 06:54:16 am

I have a lot of people in my Facebook list "complaining" about how "ridiculous" these salaries are. I'm like "no, there's nothing special about 153 million that isn't special about 100 mil or 10 mil". The market decides how much is too much or how much is too little. Obviously, if the team decided to offer him 153 mil $, then that's their decision. Then in their view, that is not too much. Nothing to comment on. That's the financial context of the NBA right now.

of course there's something to comment on.. I imagine they could have given 153 million to Durant, not Conley; that would have been a far better investment.... Maybe i'm just not clued to how all of this works, but giving so much money to one guy who hasn't even been an allstar caliber player seems like a bad move. Why not use more of that money to bring in an elite player? (unless for some reason they couldn't)

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On the other hand, Wade was offered only 10 mil by the Heat.

unless there's some promise of ~100 million next year, he should peace out. :/

The thing is this is all a strange speculative game based on the cap.  Unlikely Durant will sign a 5 year 150 million dollar deal with anyone... More like a 2-3 year deal.   Teams don't know how high the salary cap is gonna go but the idea is you sign Mike Conley to this deal and in years 4 and 5 he is only making 30 million which is a tiny percentage of the salary cap and he is way underpaid allowing you to build a great team...  That said I think they might be betting a bit high...

It's counterintuitive but with a fast rising cap the good but not great players are gonna sign the biggest total deals... Your not gonna convince a great player to sign a six year deal where they might end up being one of the lower paid players in a few years...  But for the guys who are not transcendent you can throw six years at them and a tremendous sum of money and they will think "(a) I'm coming off a good year, I might get hurt or exposed as worse than I am soon and not be this highly valued and (b) who cares if I'm soon on of the lower paid stars, 150 million dollars is a lot, I'm gonna lock it down...

what's up with this Lebron opt-out? Is he going anywhere?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2016/06/29/lebron-james-contract-cleveland-cavaliers/86506952/

No.  The NBA salary cap and max system are messing things up... There are max players who sign long max deals right now (kevin loves of the NBA) to get what they can and "true max" players who won't do it cause they will still be max guys under the new higher salary cap and don't want to sign a max deal that will be dwarfed by those max deals...

Lebron is in the second group.  Unfortunately he has to take a risk and assume he doesn't get hurt by signing short deals until the new cap is done... It's similar to Jordan in 97,98, etc when he kept signing 1 year deals.  Lebron will probably sign another 1 year deal with a player option (his only injury insurance) and then cash in next year...

Too bad they can't let Lebron sign a one year deal with 5 years of player options...