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Quote from: entropy on June 21, 2014, 06:45:35 am

You dont even know what your true max is, maybe you were good for 10g more, or maybe you went too heavy by 100g, who really knows, it's not important for the purpose of training which is something you do all the time not just a once off event. What we are interested in as athletes is being able to perform at a decent high level regularly.

And that is exactly why you don't have to chase your true max every day, but a safe 90-95% is a wise choice. Anything over 85% is supposed to recruit all muscle units anyway.
Many ( if not most ) people in here train like that, going for a daily heavy -but not max- single, them back-off and do some rep work. kingfish, raptor, mutumbo, dreyth, ChrisM and so on. I did it too in my recent periodization routine ( in the strength phase, this was done to build strength, not preserve it ), here is kellyb's guidelines:

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Squat: 8 x 1 @ 90% (add weight the 1st 4-5 sets working up to heavy but solid form single. Reduce the weight by 10% and perform 3-4 more sets of 1)

If you love the PR, the true max, which you do, it is ok, go for it, just do it less often, like once a week or every 2 weeks. I bet that following the buffered approach will lead to better PRs when you go for them like that.

Just 2c again.

This ^^^

And the better you get, the less you should aim for a true max, and the more recovery you will need after a true max.

You guys are all hung up on this concept of a true max and a percentage of it. There is no true max and taking percentages of something that doesn't exist is a mistake upon that. Forget the 90-95% of a "true max" - that's even more meaningless. Do you seriously believe that stuff?

I dont know. I'll give it another week and see if something changes. It may be that while my BS is 20kg below PR, my FS is only 10kg below. Which may mean perhaps that the FS is too high rather than BS being too low? Like when i was doing 150-160kg bs, my regular FS was i think 135-137.5kg while it's now 132-135kg whereas BS is absurdly low at 137.5-140. I'm really pissed of with my BS. Piece of shit isn't moving, which torments me bc i only really care about BS and FS is just a necessary distraction to keep myself honest. I dont want to back of FS yet though but perhaps i shud hold it there while my BS catches up to my previously attained regular maxes.

Btw i know where i went wrong last time. I fooled myself into thinking i had gotten stronger than i was, a 170/160/145 squat is nothing special, i was still weak. I should have been more humble and set my sights on somewhere else, esp when i wasn't even in danger of repping 140kg yet. So lesson learnt, will pay my dues and own 130-140kg for reps first, my goal being to do sets of 6 with 137.5kg before earning the right to rep 140kg and over. Btw whenever that happens, i'll automatically be good for a 180kg squat.

This is a dumb conversation. I've squatted 20kg more before lol. why are you telling me 140kg is my true max? It's obviously not, im just weak right now, the solution isnt to embrace that weakness and accept it (because CNS bro), rather, it's to keep at it til im stronger

Training
FBS 2x126, 1x135 (PR)
BS 1x140, 1x130 (lol), 3x124.5 (lolx2)
OHP 6x3x60 (PR?)
WCU 2x91, 2x101, 2x106, 0Fx111, 5x96, 2x6x90.4
Plyo stuff - see notes;

Squat notes:
Good news is on a day i was weak af i still managed a local front squat PR. Bad news is that it's 10kg away from my alltime FS PR though I do happen to weigh 10kg less. I would like to close that gap and be within 5kg of my PR but while weighing 10kg less. Have a lot of work left to be done.

My bar speed has been so shit lately, think my CNS is battered but i dont understand y because ive been doing so little volume lately. Though have been maxing out every session i thought that wouldnt matter much. Not sure what to do from here. Being unable to rep 130kg is a deal breaker. Have to figure out a way to get myself stronger and better with reps.

I forgot to mention, ive bumped up my squat warmup from 3x100 im going to 2x126 now. I will try to progress it up to 2x127.5kg i think which is prob good for doing a single with 140kg next? Right now its hard af tho cause its pretty much my 2rm lol

Upper notes:
Surprised to see my OHP responding so well to the RSR inspired progression. I like the idea of keeping 60kg as my training weight for reps til i've mastered it. Lets stick with it and see where it takes me!

Plyomomumbojumbo bullshit:
Did about 250 skips total. Split it btw DL and SL. DJs, 2 sets of 5. and some bounds, total of 10 i think. Not sure if im doing these right but who cares it's all bullshit anyway. Oh and 5 dunks. bullshit dunks.
 

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am supposed to drive to the basketball court and do some dunks and other plymomumbo jumbo nonsens but with how shitty my CNS is, im questioning the point. Might do it anyways. After that, fml have to do upper body work too And conditioning. Cant be bothered.

If im a double leg jumper, shud i still b doing lots of 1 leg jumps? Y?

^This. The closest ive come to finding someone to train with was an idiot who did smolov jnr with me on the bench press. BP because that's the only thing in common we could find. But i would never do that again; between the obnoxious music on the iphone or the facebooking between sets, it's far worse than training alone in terms of focus and drive.

Also LBSS i had a dream last night i went back to highschool but with all the life experience and saavy i have as an adult. Was a cool dream. No relevance just thought to mention.

edit oh and I wouldnt go by emails. No one in this country bothers returning them if you cold mail them. Phone call or go see them in person.

damn raptor, you are really going all in with the born again rippetoeism gospel sermoning! Im happy for you that you've found some guidance in internet coaching but give the tired propaganda a rest. low bar isn't the game changer you're making it out to be, and really fuck all of that noise, not like anyone cares much for it here.

strong, to me, is a beltless backsquat, reasonably upright for 160-180kg at a bw around 82.5-87.5kg. For someone else it might be 150kg or 200kg, it depends on the individual obv. I would like a decent front squat as well, say 150-160kg. Same bw as before. Tell me princess when did you last let your heart decide. height makes a difference as well. for a guy 5'7" say, you can be strong and jacked AF at 75kg, for me, im basically a skeleton at that weight :/ low bar isn't going to change that lol