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Basketball / Re: i learned a new move in bball
« on: December 21, 2011, 12:44:35 am »


also, why do coaches teach that this move at 4:30 is NOT a travel?



That step through is a tough call. Not sure why it isn't called a travel more often and I see a lot of camps/coaches teaching it. My thought process on that move is that if you do the step you must jump off both feet at the same time to be within legal execution otherwise if you pick up your back/pivot foot first then it's a travel.

So I agree, definitely a travel with that video.

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Basketball / Re: i learned a new move in bball
« on: December 21, 2011, 12:41:02 am »
The fact that you do the eurostep which is a step in a direction and another step in the opposite direction is irrelevant - they are still two steps.

As far as gray areas of ruling - they could call travels on each pivot change the players do, and they do a ton of them.

Who was arguing either of those two points?

I agree with both. I was unaware I said otherwise.

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Basketball / Re: i learned a new move in bball
« on: December 19, 2011, 05:16:36 pm »
Whatever man, you're too nitpicky. Unless it's a blatand travel (like REALLY taking three steps with the ball in your hand) I say that's not a travel.

And the fact that you eurostep or not is irrelevant as long as you take only 2 steps.

Haha, you crack me up dude. Didn't know there was supposed to be gray areas in rule interpretation.

Yes, I know the NBA is not strict and bends it's rules for entertainment purposes during the flow of the game but fact is it was a travel.

And not even sure what you're trying to say in the 2nd sentence. Sorry.

Ginobili did the same thing Wade did.  The 1st step with his left foot wade has yet to gather the ball, and thus it doesn't count as a step.  This doesnt get called about 80% of the time at almost all levels of play.  This goes back to the total inconsistency of refs at all levels of play.

I agree on the bold part completely.

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Basketball / Re: i learned a new move in bball
« on: December 14, 2011, 06:49:41 pm »
Why would the eurostep be a travel (the one that Wade performed)? I mean wtf? He took two steps and layed it in?

Watch closely from the baseline view. On his last crossover he steps quickly with his left after he catches the ball and then gathers during the next right left steps. There is a difference here between catching the ball and gathering the ball. He catches it with one hand and then completes his quick left step then gathers while stepping right and then left to shoot the layup.


Edit:
And Vag, I call it the "euro-step" because that's what I've always called it. Never once in my plenty of years of watching NBA basketball have I once heard it called the 3d step. And despite being quite active in every level of basketball via watching, coaching and playing; not once have I ever heard it referred to as the 3d step. Sorry.

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Basketball / Re: i learned a new move in bball
« on: December 14, 2011, 12:32:56 am »
Deng made contact with the ball ^^^ despite that pop-up saying he didn't.

wait, making contact with the ball gives him dribble back?

Deng knocked the ball out of his hands by hitting his arm. LeBron never dribbled before that so he still had his dribble.

And yes, he traveled after he made his move but that's just how it goes in the NBA.

I see, it looked like deng reached, and then he dribbled.  I got called for a travel other day for doing the euro step just like this one:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3YcNY-dUSI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3YcNY-dUSI</a>

Now, if we are going to call the euro step a travel, then we must reform the entire way a 2 step lay up is made, because then something like this would also be a travel:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfYXUY7bVPg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfYXUY7bVPg</a>

at 2:05

and there would be mass confusion in the basketball world.

In any league that is not the NBA, that euro-step that Wade did would be a travel. If you want a good example of a solid and legal euro step, watch the man who brought it over. Manu Ginobili.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfP4IWkRI6o" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfP4IWkRI6o</a>

or watch some of his youtube mixes and watch for his change of direction steps (euro steps) when he drives. They're uncannily effective.

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Basketball / Re: i learned a new move in bball
« on: December 12, 2011, 11:46:57 pm »
Deng made contact with the ball ^^^ despite that pop-up saying he didn't.

wait, making contact with the ball gives him dribble back?

Deng knocked the ball out of his hands by hitting his arm. LeBron never dribbled before that so he still had his dribble.

And yes, he traveled after he made his move but that's just how it goes in the NBA.

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Basketball / Re: nba 2011-2012 lockout
« on: December 11, 2011, 01:05:46 am »
Was an example of "democracy". That'd teach us former communist countries a lesson about proper democracy!

That's just silly.

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ADARQ & LanceSTS - Q&A / Conventional DL vs. Romnian DL
« on: October 22, 2011, 06:58:59 pm »
Can someone explain the difference/purpose of these? I've tried watching videos on YouTube and I see some small differences, but I tend to trust random YT videos very little.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Program Review / Re: crossfit
« on: October 19, 2011, 10:52:06 pm »
and hot chicks love it.


The only benefit I've seen thus far.

you don't think someone could improve overall fitness/conditioning and even strength, using crossfit? i do.

:)

I sure do. But I haven't been looking at that. Like I quoted, "hot chicks" are the only benefits I've SEEN thus far.

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Program Review / Re: crossfit
« on: October 19, 2011, 08:04:56 pm »
and hot chicks love it.


The only benefit I've seen thus far.

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Basketball / Re: nba 2011-2012 lockout
« on: October 16, 2011, 11:54:47 pm »
imo, the players need to back down.  its true the owners made the system kind of messed up by spoiling athletes, but thats the way competition is in a free market.



Kinda, kinda not. The players have made quite a few concessions already. Sure, the BRI should be 50/50 instead of the 53% the players are now proposing, but the owners haven't made a single solitary concession.

The things they're claiming are concessions are actually just them backing off some SERIOUS hard line proposals they threw out months ago. I don't like the angle the owners are taking simply because I don't think they should be guaranteed profits (which is basically what they are seeking). I think they should HAVE to be forced to run a smart ship. Guys like Donald Sterling should not own franchises like the Clippers (which by the way make tons of money while still being a crapship of a business) and be guaranteed profits. They should have some kind of accountability.

Either way you play it though, this lockout sucks.

jello's nbachat.co, he has been building this site for months.. and now there might not even be a season.. that seriously sucks.. but really, i'd imagine like, nearly 50,000 jobs lost from an nba season lockout, at least.. im not just talking about in the nba, but everything that makes money off of it.. people who make hats/clothes/bla bla, vendors (food/beverages/candy etc), advertising, everything that goes on in the stadium, parking around the stadiums.. it's huge.

Haha, ya. I've had some other ventures I've been working on but I am currently changing direction for that site. I wanted to develop it around a chat system (but no $ or skills to currently design that) so I'm just working on using it as a blog right now. It's coming along nicely though. But of course, it'd have a brighter future if there was a dang season!

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Basketball / Re: nba 2011-2012 lockout
« on: October 14, 2011, 06:24:29 pm »
David Stern can suck it.

That being said, he is a great negotiator and can twirl a story in his favor however he wants.

I just want the NBA back. Owners are wrong. Players are wrong. Just play some dang ball.

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: trying to develop that windmill dunk
« on: September 02, 2011, 10:22:26 pm »
thanks :)
i'm trying,but it's hard,especially because i dunk it with my left hand,and i'm right handed :/

Why do you do that?

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Basketball / Re: A WHOLE BUNCH OF DUNKS AND SHIT.
« on: September 02, 2011, 05:43:01 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV0C-UetIXk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV0C-UetIXk</a>

Play that funky music white boy!

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Pics, Videos, & Links / Re: trying to develop that windmill dunk
« on: September 02, 2011, 05:39:06 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USNIGNqEJ_4

here's the vid. comment, like/dislike, subscribe :)
regards

Not bad dude. All I can say is throw those arms around as hard as you can. (Of course, that's how I nearly broke my wrist, but I learned how to windmill.)

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